Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

Pretty sure my hopes of seeing family and friends this summer are gone at this point. Canada is not going to be on any green list for the foreseeable and will probably feature on the MHQ list for a while.

Might be Christmas before I can really think about it properly.

My own fault for getting my hopes up really.

Blut2 wrote: »

Its completely morally reprehensible that the government is arguing that flying home to visit a dying parent (or child) isn't worth an exemption from MHQ, but playing a mid-season game of football or rugby that nobody will remember in 12 months time is.

How can anyone who isn't a sociopath seriously defend that position?

Exactly

Corholio wrote: »

I really wish this thread could be for travel discussion, options for the summer, who's opening up and what will be needed etc, rather than 2 threads back and forth argument on MHQ.

The other thread and indeed even the title of thread shows that a clearly better one for all that. I've been involved in it too so not blaming others or anything either, it just seems pointless and genuine travel discussion gets lost in the swathes of MHQ stuff.

The thread was really helpful in last week of coordinating opposition to the MHQ. I sent 10 tds emails and complained to the EC.

Del Griffith wrote: »

A small price to pay for what?

To be clear, you want to continue constant testing forever, even with the whole world vaccinated?

You are having a laugh?

If you are that scared of "variants" why don't you just cocoon forever? It's the only way you can really be certain.

Hyperbole, Hyperbole! A small price to pay for a more normal life and it's not that long away. Unless it's thrown away by the likes of the international travelers.

greenheep wrote: »

TV3 News just reported on it, cases to continue tomorrow.

Also there was a woman travelling back from Dubai with her 6 year old daughter to attend her sisters funeral who suddenly died. She is hoping to get an exemption as she is vaccinated but obviously her daughter isn't so she isn't sure what happens

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2021/0416/1210286-quarantine-high-court/
That will be an interesting one. It says that the lady will be released because Vaccinated people won't be subject to MHQ but going by the rules, Minors should be in MHQ with their parent/Guardian unless impossible (in which case they can quarantine in their home/boarding school.

greenheep wrote: »

Another interesting point is that she would still be required to quarantine at home and not attend the funeral. So I can see why a funeral would not be grounds for an exemption, but personally I think it should be allowed. outdoors at a grave with a mask should be ok

We alll know what Irish funerals are like. Hugs drinks and people standing indoors out of the rain. Not ideal for covid spread and many families have had to restrict funeral attendances or avoid them altogether during the crisis.

saabsaab wrote: »

Hyperbole, Hyperbole! A small price to pay for a more normal life and it's not that long away. Unless it's thrown away by the likes of the international travelers.

Wheres the hyperbole? I asked, and that's what you answered.

It reads like hyperbole alright but that is your stated opinion.

"International Travelers" as you call "them", are other people... you know, like you, even Irish people at that.

You'd be as well off protesting outside Lidl or at bus stops shouting at people getting on or off the bus, for all the sense it makes.

Del Griffith wrote: »

Wheres the hyperbole? I asked, and that's what you answered.

It reads like hyperbole alright but that is your stated opinion.

"International Travelers" as you call "them", are other people... you know, like you, even Irish people at that.

You'd be as well off protesting outside Lidl or at bus stops shouting at people getting on or off the bus, for all the sense it makes.

Well said. Those letters to the EU are having an impact. Patriotic behaviour which
Is looking to the long term interests of our economy and health.

KanyeSouthEast wrote: »

Supported by the usual suspects here. And we wonder how the country remained in the dark ages for so long!

... and in the grip of the catholic church

faceman wrote: »

Having buried 2 family members in Ireland during lockdown 1 and 2 last year I take great exception to this nonsense

Sorry for your troubles. However many Irish funerals can be close contact affairs not saying that is generally bad in itself but leads to a poor Covid situation.

eltonyio wrote: »

I am confident we will drop the internment in the very near future, but I hope the government does not have to be dragged kicking and screaming through the courts or EU sanctions for much longer to get to that stage. The resumption of travel is the only end game in town given our EU membership, our multicultural society, open economy, open border, island status and reliance on FDI. It will come and everyone on here who has emailed their local TD or MEP to show their dissatisfaction with the current nonsense will have sped it up undoubtedly.

It isn't nonsense we have nearly 5,000 dead, many since Christmas due to the UK variant. Does our Government and their experts indulge in nonsense? I think not. The only pity is that it wasn't brought in last March.

eltonyio wrote: »

Yes, they do indulge in nonsense. Thank you for your question and comment.

Nonsense to try to import new variants into this country.

Irish Aris wrote: »

I know that it is very disappointing and I sympathise with you.
I think it is good though to have a plan anyway, even a flexible one, as something to look forward to.
I am from Greece and as soon as I have completed vaccination I plan to go home and visit my family. If this can happen in August or September this will also form my holiday, if later than that I will just go and see my family and friends.

I hope you will be able to see your family and friends before the end of the year, keep the positivity going

I hope you get to see yours too I know full well, I will cry when I do.

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

Hadn't thought of that, although I thought they want to know the full journey, no?

Board a flight to London
Board a plane to Canada
Turn off your localisation services on your phone and leave them off for the duration of your Canada trip.
Fly back to London
Turn back on your localisation services once arrived in London.
Board plane to Dublin

Our nutty lot in government needs to know nothing other than you were in London.

On behalf of all sane rational people of Ireland I sincerely apologise that you need to jump through hoops to visit your family.
It’s regrettable that you may have to apply perceived deceitful actions to visit family however don’t for one second regret these actions as you’ve been given no choice as a result of disproportionate travel restrictions on this island.

Life is short and precious
Something that these doctors in charge and the government seem to forget and would rather turn us all into some kind of unemotional robots.

Good luck on your trip and I genuinely hope you have a fantastic reunion