Skoda Enyaq

80sDiesel · 13-04-2021 12:20PM

Prefer the design of the dashboard on the Enyaq than the ID4s

eagerv · 13-04-2021 12:33PM

I think VW have done a better job of the main screen than Skoda, which looks more cluttered.

cannco253 · 16-04-2021 09:58AM

Fully charged review

https://youtu.be/azOF_iX6tv4

"I've driven a lot worse"

Max charging is 125kW not 150kW as mentioned in the video.

Lantus · 16-04-2021 12:52PM

cannco253 wrote: »

Fully charged review

https://youtu.be/azOF_iX6tv4

"I've driven a lot worse"

Max charging is 125kW not 150kW as mentioned in the video.

Couldn't guage how it's more than an id4? Price list disagrees without options.

Space is the big benefit. Other issues are a few percent less than the equivalent. Ariya has a tiny boot compared to enyaq so for a big family the fact it can go 3% further is neither here nor there. In reality on a big road trip full loaded both cars will need to charge at similar places.

Black_Knight · 16-04-2021 01:37PM

Lantus wrote: »

Couldn't guage how it's more than an id4? Price list disagrees without options.

Space is the big benefit. Other issues are a few percent less than the equivalent. Ariya has a tiny boot compared to enyaq so for a big family the fact it can go 3% further is neither here nor there. In reality on a big road trip full loaded both cars will need to charge at similar places.

But the ID.4 and Ariya will charge about twice as fast as the base Enyaq.

You're right, the Enyaq 80 (€44712) is cheaper than the ID.4 (€43434-€58odd) 77kWh versions, but it's severely less well spec'd:

3 pin charger is €700+ extra. Included in the id4.
50kW is the standard DC charging, 125kW is €550 extra. 125kW is standard in the id4.
Seats are not heated like in the id4. Costs €500 extra
Windscreen isn't heated. It is in the id4.
Cruise control isn't included, it's part of an expensive add on ~€900.
No USB ports in the rear (€445 extra but includes a few other things, a few of which are included on the ID.4)
From what I see there's no 11kW charging

Lantus · 16-04-2021 06:08PM

Black_Knight wrote: »

But the ID.4 and Ariya will charge about twice as fast as the base Enyaq.

You're right, the Enyaq 80 (€44712) is cheaper than the ID.4 (€43434-€58odd) 77kWh versions, but it's severely less well spec'd:

3 pin charger is €700+ extra. Included in the id4.
50kW is the standard DC charging, 125kW is €550 extra. 125kW is standard in the id4.
Seats are not heated like in the id4. Costs €500 extra
Windscreen isn't heated. It is in the id4.
Cruise control isn't included, it's part of an expensive add on ~€900.
No USB ports in the rear (€445 extra but includes a few other things, a few of which are included on the ID.4)
From what I see there's no 11kW charging

Yeah, needs to be very carefully assessed. Weird the id4 is cheaper than their budget range. Says s lot about how confident skoda are.

TitianGerm · 19-04-2021 07:21PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqdByCvnNQA

Late Break Show review of the Enyaq.

19-04-2021 08:35PM

GO to the Skoda site and you can "Build" your Enyaq, there are several options, one I find rather "alarming" is the "alarm" option ? lol.

Travel assist is available as option 866 and a plus version for 1,158 Euro's. It would be nice to see that as an option on the id.4

125 Kw charging is 551 Euro's which is shocking it's even an option in this day and age. That alone would be the only reason I wouldn't buy a 2nd hand one.......

Skoda have lots of options.

Rear curtain airbags 400 odd euro's ? should they not be standard in this day and age ?

Added Blue for 685 I'm absolutely sick of seeing grey and silver cars on the road lol.

When you spec it up it's not as well equipped as the id.4 from what I can see for 52 K and for not a lot extra you get pretty much all you want in the id.4 max including electric seats.

The id.4 has 12 inch screen the enyaq 13 inch.

The Enyak is supposed to be a bit larger than the id.4 too but I thought the id.4 was big enough, certainly larger than I thought it would be.

But, you still have to spend 50 odd K for travel assist at least with the larger battery.

19-04-2021 09:11PM

Doesn't look like the enyak includes the granny lead either. That's 718 more, I have access to just 3 pin socket for 1 site in work and that would take a long time to pay back vs night time electricity at 7.4 C/Kwh

I could keep the BMW i3 one, I'm sure that would work with any Type II car but 718 euro's is a rip off which is essentially just a plug with some relays.

More and more the Enyak looks like not so good value over the id.4 unless you want a larger car, travel assist option is good to have then again you miss out on a lot of other kit as standard or so it seems.

liamog · 19-04-2021 09:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Doesn't look like the enyak includes the granny lead either. That's 718 more, I have access to just 3 pin socket for 1 site in work and that would take a long time to pay back vs night time electricity at 7.4 C/Kwh

€718 is a lot of money for some e-waste, just buy one from any other source if you need it.

liamog · 19-04-2021 09:27PM

Black_Knight wrote: »

But the ID.4 and Ariya will charge about twice as fast as the base Enyaq.

The ID.4 is widely rumoured to also come with a 50kW CCS charger in it's base model (which isn't available yet)

Black_Knight · 19-04-2021 09:28PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Doesn't look like the enyak includes the granny lead either. That's 718 more, I have access to just 3 pin socket for 1 site in work and that would take a long time to pay back vs night time electricity at 7.4 C/Kwh

I could keep the BMW i3 one, I'm sure that would work with any Type II car but 718 euro's is a rip off which is essentially just a plug with some relays.

More and more the Enyak looks like not so good value over the id.4 unless you want a larger car, travel assist option is good to have then again you miss out on a lot of other kit as standard or so it seems.

Enyaq allows for customising, but at a cost that accumulates quickly. Id4 is pretty much a set few packages you can buy. For me, the 1st was a perfect fit. Now the 1sts are all gone "which is better" is up for debate, but that doesn't mean I see value in the enyaq at any level, or the 77kWh id4 models.

Black_Knight · 19-04-2021 09:30PM

liamog wrote: »

The ID.4 is widely rumoured to also come with a 50kW CCS charger in it's base model (which isn't available yet)

Every doc and spec I've seen has 100kW+ DC on every id4 model, including the 52kWh models

liamog · 19-04-2021 09:36PM

Black_Knight wrote: »

Every doc and spec I've seen has 100kW+ DC on every id4 model, including the 52kWh models

I'm just going off Volkswagen Germany which list it on their website

https://www.volkswagen.de/de/modelle/id4.html#etechnologie

Der Vorteil von Elektrofahrzeugen: Aufladen geht fast überall. Zu Hause laden Sie mit Wechselstrom (AC-Laden) an der Haushaltssteckdose oder einem optionalen ID. Charger13 mit einer Ladeleistung von bis zu 7,2 kW (Pure) oder 11 kW (Pro). Viele öffentliche Ladestationen an Tankstellen und Autobahnen bieten zusätzlich das schnelle Laden mit Gleichstrom (DC-Laden). Hier können Sie in der Pure Variante mit bis zu 50 kW und optional mit bis zu 100 kW, sowie in der Pro Variante mit bis zu 125 kW laden.

The advantage of electric vehicles: You can charge almost anywhere. At home you can charge with alternating current (AC charging) at the household socket or an optional ID. Charger13 with a charging capacity of up to 7.2 kW (Pure) or 11 kW (Pro). Many public charging stations at petrol stations and motorways also offer fast charging with direct current (DC charging). Here you can charge in the Pure variant with up to 50 kW and optionally with up to 100 kW, as well as in the Pro variant with up to 125 kW.

20-04-2021 06:20AM

liamog wrote: »

The ID.4 is widely rumoured to also come with a 50kW CCS charger in it's base model (which isn't available yet)

Base is 50 Kw, it's listed on the id.4 price and specs PDF. That's a joke really, should be 120 Kw as standard, the hardware is there it's just typical German Auto Maker penny pinching.

If I was after a 2nd hand one I wouldn't buy one with only 50 Kw charging, even if they allowed 100 Kw with a software update you'd say fair enough.

20-04-2021 06:21AM

liamog wrote: »

€718 is a lot of money for some e-waste, just buy one from any other source if you need it.

Yeah, it's a joke, the car isn't cheap it should be included.

20-04-2021 06:24AM

The other thing I can't understand is why the base model has 24 less Hp ?

20-04-2021 06:52AM

Recommended on the road price for the 77 Kwh is 44,712 after grant and vrt relief

But with essential options you're going to be 50K or more very quickly and probably not much difference than the id.4 really.

https://www.skoda.ie/_doc/b5ec8716-219a-41e7-ac2a-5eca48e70c63

slave1 · 20-04-2021 07:04AM

Ah come on here, €718 for a bloody 3-pin is a total rip off and no cruise control on entry model, no cruise control in 2021, lol

20-04-2021 07:08AM

slave1 wrote: »

Ah come on here, €718 for a bloody 3-pin is a total rip off and no cruise control on entry model, no cruise control in 2021, lol

Lol read again under "functional" Cruise control is standard on the basic 58 Kwh and on the 77 Kwh.

718 for an extension lead with a 3 pin plug and type II on the other and a box with relays is taking the p1ss alright.

slave1 · 20-04-2021 07:18AM

Just in case some folk are unaware, any 3pin charging cable will do, £190 from UK reputable seller

https://evonestop.co.uk/collections/type-2-cables/products/ev-home-charging-cable-type-2-to-3-pin-plug-10-amp-5-10-metre-mode-2

TitianGerm · 20-04-2021 07:19AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Lol read again under "functional" Cruise control is standard on the basic 58 Kwh and on the 77 Kwh.

718 for an extension lead with a 3 pin plug and type II on the other and a box with relays is taking the p1ss alright.

Functional cruise control on the current Karoq is only basic cruise. Won't slow you down if there's anyone in front of you or anything like that, could be the same on this.

innrain · 20-04-2021 09:02AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Recommended on the road price for the 77 Kwh is 44,712 after grant and vrt relief

But with essential options you're going to be 50K or more very quickly and probably not much difference than the id.4 really.

https://www.skoda.ie/_doc/b5ec8716-219a-41e7-ac2a-5eca48e70c63

I've configured it with the options I have on the 2019 Kona (paddy spec) and the RRP is 55k. subtract 5k grant and add 2k delivery and your looking at 52k on the road. That is just if you want a bigger car. 6k in options and none of them are the plus ones. I mean for a 77kWh battery to have optional 125kW charging is a bit...

liamog · 20-04-2021 09:34AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, it's a joke, the car isn't cheap it should be included.

Should not be included, but they are definitely overcharging with that pricing.
They should be sold to consumers with a small cost. Enough to prevent waste, but they definitely shouldn't be making a profit on them

TitianGerm · 20-04-2021 09:43AM

liamog wrote: »

Should not be included, but they are definitely overcharging with that pricing.
They should be sold to consumers with a small cost. Enough to prevent waste, but they definitely shouldn't be making a profit on them

This iswhat I'd like to see happen. A small charge so those who need them can buy them (or get the dealer to throw them in as part of the deal) and try reduce the waste.

80sDiesel · 20-04-2021 09:53AM

A decent spec Enjaq sure is expensive. Figure folks be better going for the new e-power xtrail until prices of EVs fall with economies of scale.

toe_knee · 20-04-2021 01:30PM

I was strongly thinking of going for an Enyaq originally but a lot of what you would expect to be standard usually with Skoda are now extras. To top it off they are charging big prices for the extras too. I Will be looking elsewhere I think. Not planning on changing until next year so should be plenty more on the market.

20-04-2021 02:24PM

When I see the price of the Tiguan they are pretty pricey so I don't expect the price of the id.4 or Enyak to come down much any time soon.

unkel · 20-04-2021 10:55PM

Jonny Smith did a review today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqdByCvnNQA

Looks good, practical, the entry level is a good value basic family bus, but the options are very expensive. Overall conclusion: "it's ok"

21-04-2021 06:30AM

unkel wrote: »

Jonny Smith did a review today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqdByCvnNQA

Looks good, practical, the entry level is a good value basic family bus, but the options are very expensive. Overall conclusion: "it's ok"

That's the impression I got of the id.4 yesterday when I took it for a 1 hr test drive, it's "ok" ok I'll be honest it's decent but the options are indeed very expensive but at the very least the Enyak allows you to add travel assist but I didn't see mentioned anywhere 11 Kw AC.

I think the Skoda might actually look better inside, the id.4 had too much of the caddy van plastics for my liking and I wouldn't be happy paying more than the 45 K for it to be honest.

I think most People will go with the id.4 Life for 45 K excluding metallic paint or just stick with the basic white, the white looks fine, better than dull grey.

It's got LED lights, Auto Cruise control, heated washer nozzles, auto wipers, heated steering, heated seats and 11 Kw charger, Android auto and Apple car play.

That's most of what anyone wants in a family car, sadly travel assist isn't included and you have to jump to 54K to get it and probably spend another 500 on metallic paint.

No power tailgate that's bad really on a family orientated car.

The ride on the 20 inch wheels on the 1st edition is too hard, I wouldn't advise going above 18 inch and if 19 are included I'd request the 18 inch wheels, family car like that wants some reasonable amount of comfort on Irish roads.

It's hard to make out the value in the skoda to be honest.

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