Skoda Enyaq

liamog

Bob Flavin got to drive one a couple of months ago, here's a spy shot with light camo

Planned reveal of Skoda Enyaq is 1st of September. https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/enyaq/skoda-enyaq-iv-in-3-2-1/

I think this is going to be a very successful car here, more details will follow with the official reveal, but at the moment it's widely believed to have a WLTP range of around 500km, it will also have towing ability, this may be the EV that convinces the culchies to go electric :P

sumo12

My fear is that it will be absurd money when it lands...

KevRossi

Some German websites stated that Skoda are targeting just under €40,000 for the entry level version there. Not sure what that comes to here.

UK sites are reporting £40,000.

Thierry12

KevRossi wrote: »

Some German websites stated that Skoda are targeting just under €40,000 for the entry level version there. Not sure what that comes to here.

UK sites are reporting £40,000.

VW group are going to clean up

Really pushing on now, better sell my few Tesla shares while they are riding high

JPA

Thierry12 wrote: »

VW group are going to clean up

Really pushing on now, better sell my few Tesla shares while they are riding high

It's not like there will only be room for one manufacturer.

Thierry12

JPA wrote: »

It's not like there will only be room for one manufacturer.

I've heard these arguments before

Don't see how it ends well for them when ze german tanks start rolling

liamog

Mod Note: Pleas stick to Skoda Enyaq discussion, there is a general Tesla thread if you want to discuss the impact of MEB on Tesla's fortunes

_ned_

Yes, Thierry, sell your shares. The S&P500 funds need to buy about 26 million of them!



Meanwhile, how are Skoda and Seat avoiding the software issues that seem to plague VW? I thought both are using the MEB from VW?

KCross

_ned_ wrote: »

Meanwhile, how are Skoda and Seat avoiding the software issues that seem to plague VW? I thought both are using the MEB from VW?

Because they are not yet selling any MEB based cars.
VW will be first to market with the MEB platform with the ID.3 and plan to fix the software issues by the end of the year and presumably Seat/Skoda will pickup the latest/fixed software at that point.

liamog

The "software issues" on the MEB cars are related to getting the augmented hud up and running, and Android Auto/Apple CarPlay working.
I don't expect the fancy hud to be available on the Enyaq, and as KCross mentions, they'll have AppConnect figured out within the next few months anyway.
The whole thing was massively overblown.

liamog

Digital event starts today at 6pm IST

https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/press-releases/world-premiere-of-the-new-enyaq-iv-takes-place-in-prague-today/

Johnboy1951

Premiere Prog starts in 10 mins

This now on
https://skoda-virtual-event.com/livestream

liamog

If you don't like their fancy 3d video

Black_Knight

Their little promo video suggests 500km range anyways. Obviously that depends on the battery back. I assume there'll be multiple.

Edit: 340km , 390km, 510km ranges.

(109kw), (132kw) (150kW) motor sizes

It did just flash up "wireless charging". Surely not!? Phones I guess

liamog

Those are the motor sizes

KCross

Black_Knight wrote: »

Their little promo video suggests 500km range anyways. Obviously that depends on the battery back. I assume there'll be multiple.

Edit: 340km (109kw), 390km (132kw), 510km (150kW) ranges.

It did just flash up "wireless charging". Surely not!? Phones I guess

The 3 batteries are the same as the ID.3.

The kW figures you have quoted are the motor power, not battery sizes!

The entry-level model is the ŠKODA ENYAQ iV 50; its lithium-ion battery has a gross capacity of 55 kWh (net: 52 kWh). The rear-mounted electric motor has an output of 109 kW, offering a maximum range of up to 340* km. This increases up to 390* km in the 132-kW ENYAQ iV 60 fitted with a 62-kWh battery (net: 58 kWh). The rear-wheel-drive ENYAQ iV 80 delivering 150 kW has the highest range of up to 500* km in the WLTP cycle. Its 82-kWh battery (net: 77 kWh) is also used by the two versions equipped with a second electric motor and thus all-wheel drive: the 80X and the vRS, which deliver 195 kW and 225 kW respectively. The top-of-the-range model accelerates from 0 to 100 km/h in just 6.2 seconds and has a top speed of 180 km/h. The maximum range of both all-wheel-drive variants is up to 460* km.

Black_Knight

Gotta brush up on my units. 150kW motor with a XkWh battery pack.

It's not a bad looking car, very traditionally Skoda looking. Nothing too refreshing.

liamog

Five power variants, three battery sizes, two motors and all-wheel drive
Offering three battery sizes and five different power variants, the ŠKODA ENYAQ iV makes driving both sustainable
and fun. In addition to the one on the rear axle, the two most powerful models are also fitted with a second electric
motor on the front axle that transfers the SUV’s torque of 425 and 460 Nm respectively to the road via all four
wheels. The entry-level ŠKODA ENYAQ 50 iV is fitted with a 109-kW rear-mounted engine and rear-wheel drive; its
maximum torque is 220 Nm. Its lithium-ion battery has a gross capacity of 55 kWh (52 kW net) and it has a range of
up to 340 km*
. Equipped with a 62-kWh battery (58 kWh net), the 132-kW ENYAQ 60 iV can cover up to 390 km*
; its
maximum torque is 310 Nm.
The ENYAQ 80 iV has an output of 150 kW, torque of up to 310 Nm and, at 510 km*
in the WLTP cycle, boasts the
longest maximum range. The 82-kWh battery (77 kWh net) is also used in the two all-wheel-drive variants –
combined with the second electric motor on the front axle, the ENYAQ 80x iV produces 195 kW and the ENYAQ RS
PRESS KIT
Page 2 of 2
ŠKODA ENYAQ iV press kit || Electric powertrain || Contacts
iV delivers 225 kW. Both of these models have a range of 460 km*
.
The range-topping ŠKODA ENYAQ RS iV is particularly fun to drive. It accelerates from a standing start to 100 km/h
in just 6.2 seconds, and achieves a top speed of 180 km/h – 20 km/h faster than other power variants. In addition,
the most powerful ENYAQ iV can tow a trailer weighing up to 1,400 kg; the SUV can be fitted with an electrically
retractable tow bar as an optional extra

https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/press-kits/enyaq-world-premiere/texts/

Black_Knight

€35k, depending on the country. What was the ID3 (depending on country)?

KCross

Black_Knight wrote: »

€35k, depending on the country. What was the ID3 (depending on country)?

The headline entry level figure that VW gave for the ID.3 was €30k so it is a rough indication of the price difference.

Black_Knight

KCross wrote: »

The headline entry level figure that VW gave for the ID.3 was €30k so it is a rough indication of the price difference.

And what did that €30k translate to in Ireland? 33-34k? If that conversion holds true the Enyaq could be around eNiro (or cheaper) price ?? Albeit for a smaller range (340km Enyaq vs 400km eNiro)

KCross

Black_Knight wrote: »

And what did that €30k translate to in Ireland? 33-34k? If that conversion holds true the Enyaq could be around eNiro (or cheaper) price ??

We dont know yet because the entry level isnt available.

All we have so far for ID.3 is the launch edition prices which are not the entry level models.

liamog

The current Irish ID.3 is €35k in Germany, so I would expect the IV 50 to be the same price.

The IV 50 only comes with 50kW DC and 7.2kW AC charging.

Black_Knight

liamog wrote: »

The current Irish ID.3 is €35k in Germany, so I would expect the IV 50 to be the same price.

The IV 50 only comes with 50kW DC and 7.2kW AC charging.

Ah yes. The perfect combo of lower range, thus requiring more charging stops, and slow fast charging to frustrate you on each of those stops. I know they wanna upsell, but the entry version seems like its only there for the headline "low" price.

liamog

I must admit the IV50 comes across as a real door buster model, the IV60 has just a 6kWh larger battery and proper charging capabilities.

€33800 in Germany entry price and it looks to have the quality of interior that the ID3 should have received.
The dashboard display is tiny but it is still a lot of car for the money.

Here is a bloke with an Irish accent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK1y3hYai68

liamog

230V socket for the rear seats.

digiman

Very impressive looking car!! Interior is very class for the founders edition.

The future is bright!! Scared though that we will be really far behind in charging infrastructure as these will be heavily considered when people are buying their next SUV next year

BBMcQ

Nice look around on the completecar YouTube. They are saying the entry model will come in just shy of 40k which makes sense. They have a good run down on their website also. Some scoop they seem to have gotten out of Skoda.

You’ll be berated for saying this over on the iD3 thread, but this looks wayyy more the finished article than the iD3. They have surprisingly done away with the stupid switchgear up on the steering wheel. Honestly they seem to have gazumped the iD4.

Have to say, part of me is envious that I just bought a Kodiaq, the other part of me is looking forward to getting into this in 3 years!

liamog

digiman wrote: »

Very impressive looking car!! Interior is very class for the founders edition.

The future is bright!! Scared though that we will be really far behind in charging infrastructure as these will be heavily considered when people are buying their next SUV next year

Well based on previous reports rural Ireland doesn't have electricity yet, so we'll need lots of charging infrastructure in rural to allow them to use these /s

It looks to be a very good offering from Skoda, I'd say a lot depends on pricing of the IV60 model, which is the one I think makes the most sense.

Black_Knight

liamog wrote: »

230V socket for the rear seats.

Really? Didn't spot that. Interesting, if a bit odd. Cant think of much use id have for it other than a laptop the very odd time.

JohnC.

Black_Knight wrote: »

Really? Didn't spot that. Interesting, if a bit odd. Cant think of much use id have for it other than a laptop the very odd time.

Do what Bjorn did and carry a microwave around. Or charge a Tesla from it.

80sDiesel

When it’s comes to new e suvs is it just Skoda, VW, BMW and Nissan?

Black_Knight

JohnC. wrote: »

Do what Bjorn did and carry a microwave around. Or charge a Tesla from it.

The microwave option is actually pretty appealing. Hot food on the go when you've to charge. Bit bulky to bring around but a nice option

liamog

80sDiesel wrote: »

When it’s comes to new e suvs is it just Skoda, VW, BMW and Nissan?

e2008 too.

BBMcQ

80sDiesel wrote: »

When it’s comes to new e suvs is it just Skoda, VW, BMW and Nissan?

E-Niro (starting to age poorly)
Model Y also next year (will far outsell the Model 3).
I can see Seat and Audi using the MEB for Q3/Ateca équivalents soon also.

BBMcQ

Black_Knight wrote: »

Really? Didn't spot that. Interesting, if a bit odd. Cant think of much use id have for it other than a laptop the very odd time.

Laptop charging would be very handy. I’ve got a 8yr old MacBook that runs like day one but the battery only holds 3 hours.

McGiver

Not a bad car. Looks great in red. Great show.

Loved the history of the brand. People generally don't know most of that. It's one of the oldest brands in the world, in fact.

So proud as a Czech. It's a national icon (even though it's majority German/VAG owned ). Good move that the VAG allowed this to be shown earlier than ID4.

Simple, functional design, very much Å koda spirit. This is gonna sell a lot if price is right. Kona/Niro killer.

11 kW AC and 125 kW DC is really nice. Way higher than Kona. Way bigger and roomier. Better tech. The interior is somewhat like i3. Both exterior and interior is league above Kona etc. For less money (the 55 kWh version at least)!

Black_Knight

McGiver wrote: »

11 kW AC and 125 kW DC is really nice. Way higher than Kona. Way bigger and roomier. Better tech. The interior is somewhat like i3. Both exterior and interior is league above Kona etc. For less money (the 55 kWh version at least)!

Sadly you're picking the best bits and mashing them together, though the 55kWh version sounds like it won't have 11kW AC or 125kW DC. 7 and 50 from what I heard.

At the right price it'll do damage to the niro for sure. Kona doesn't register with me as competition for anything.

JohnC.

So, this thing in the boot



Is it supposed to be some sort of inelegant solution for covering the DC pins in the rain if you're AC charging?

Davy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29VYHzmqcZ4

JohnC.

I like how he dropped the seats from the boot.

peposhi

The real question in Ireland would be - can it tow?!? lol

Fantastic shape, love it!
Great show...

It will lead Tour do France tomorrow, so there will be plenty of pics/videos on the road...

liamog

peposhi wrote: »

The real question in Ireland would be - can it tow?!? lol

Yes is the answer, though not sure if that's all models.

Oafley Jones

I like the look of it, but I’m surprised to see actual buttons. I am right? That alone would nearly sell me, because the haptics and touchscreens in place of hvac/lights etc is complete bull****. They have their place but I know what I saw in the new golf isnt futuristic, it’s just a whole lot cheaper to produce than physical dials and buttons.

McGiver

Black_Knight wrote:

At the right price it'll do damage to the niro for sure. Kona doesn't register with me as competition for anything.

Kona looks like a toy car next to this!

The concept was brilliant. Them the camouflaged pictures were really disappointing. But they've brought it back, very close to the concept. Very good job.

Black_Knight

McGiver wrote: »

Kona looks like a toy car next to this!

The concept was brilliant. Them the camouflaged pictures were really disappointing. But they've brought it back, very close to the concept. Very good job.

Wait for the price to bring us back down to earth. Gonna be really disappointing when the base version is affordable, but any version with decent tech is a 7k upgrade - I'm looking at you id3 and your crappy base model charging speeds and lack of folding mirrors and reversing camera.

McGiver

Black_Knight wrote:

Sadly you're picking the best bits and mashing them together, though the 55kWh version sounds like it won't have 11kW AC or 125kW DC. 7 and 50 from what I heard.

Just had a look at the Czech website which I take as the gospel and it clearly says DC max 125 kW (assuming peak) and 11 kW AC.

Whether those will be extras is another question. I believe VW ID3 will have 100 kW DC and 11 kW AC as an option on lowest standard edition trims. So Škoda may do the same.

McGiver

Black_Knight wrote: »

Wait for the price to bring us back down to earth. Gonna be really disappointing when the base version is affordable, but any version with decent tech is a 7k upgrade - I'm looking at you id3 and your crappy base model charging speeds and lack of folding mirrors and reversing camera.

Yes, the first edition ID3 trims suck - the two higher trims are ridiculously overpriced. I hope VAG are not going to force this same BS on Škoda. From what I can see on the CZ website, it seems there's going to be some config possible for the Founders Edition (the clone of the VW 1st Edition).

We shall see. They by definition must be a tad cheaper than VW, in this case the ID4. What's the point of the whole Škoda brand otherwise?

liamog

McGiver wrote: »

Whether those will be extras is another question. I believe VW ID3 will have 100 kW DC and 11 kW AC as an option on lowest standard edition trims. So Škoda may do the same.

Same for Skoda, only 50kW and 7.2kW AC on the Enyaq 50

McGiver

liamog wrote:

Same for Skoda, only 50kW and 7.2kW AC on the Enyaq 50

Where did you pull that from?
Just talked with a YouTuber who did review directly in Prague at the show. Said 12 kW AC and 100 kW DC will be available even for the smallest battery.