Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

sd1999 · 15-04-2021 10:07AM

titan18 wrote: »

If there's a mass of people refusing AZ (and since that's a higher risk age group too), it'll be interesting to see what they do. Today is him just threatening people to take it, and the back of the queue process works if it's a small minority. If loads refuse it, it'll be more interesting.

They'll probably just get offered another AZ appointment.

Godot. · 15-04-2021 10:08AM

Surely our lot aren't going to restrict J&J based on age? We'll never be done if they do that.

josip · 15-04-2021 10:08AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Which is what Reid has been trying to say nicely all along. He's the right person to come out with this too and it does need to be that blunt.

What happens if you get your first shot of (AZ/Pfizer) but aren't able to make/miss your 2nd shot appointment?
Do you get it on your next available date or do you go to the back of the queue?

Russman · 15-04-2021 10:10AM

titan18 wrote: »

If there's a mass of people refusing AZ (and since that's a higher risk age group too), it'll be interesting to see what they do. Today is him just threatening people to take it, and the back of the queue process works if it's a small minority. If loads refuse it, it'll be more interesting.

Yeah, whilst I can agree with the sentiment behind it, the "stick" nature of the message might not be the best. IIRC he has form with this kind of messaging before though.
As you say, if only a few refuse it, its not a big issue but if loads do, then it becomes a big problem.

muddypuppy · 15-04-2021 10:11AM

On the 50 million extra doses, the Italian head of vaccines (not sure if that's the correct translation) reported that Italy will get 670000 extra vaccines in April, 2150000 in May and over 4000000 in June.
Going by the 1.1% allocation of Ireland, this translates to about 54000 in April, 174000 in May and 323000 in June.

is_that_so · 15-04-2021 10:12AM

titan18 wrote: »

If there's a mass of people refusing AZ (and since that's a higher risk age group too), it'll be interesting to see what they do. Today is him just threatening people to take it, and the back of the queue process works if it's a small minority. If loads refuse it, it'll be more interesting.

It's not a threat it's been HSE policy all the way through this that you can't pick and choose. I don't think there will be loads and that people seem to be happy to take what they're given. As for going to the back of the queue, from a system and management perspective it makes sense. They will be able to say we are now on the 60, 59, 45, 32 group etc. At the end of it they will have just have a miscellaneous group to wrap up.

is_that_so · 15-04-2021 10:13AM

josip wrote: »

What happens if you get your first shot of (AZ/Pfizer) but aren't able to make/miss your 2nd shot appointment?
Do you get it on your next available date or do you go to the back of the queue?

That would be a reschedule, ideally within the time frame for those vaccines.

Economics101 · 15-04-2021 10:14AM

Looking at the comments about the new HSE vaccine booking system, I wonder how many people in the 60-69 age group will have trouble in navigating the system. There will be a not-insignificant number who don't have email, or a mobile, or perhaps a PPSN. There will also be people who are simply phobic about online bookings and who struggle to get the (10-character?!!) password right. Sure, they can phone the HSE, but given how dreadful so many phone hotlines are, I just wonder. There is a huge public interest in getting maximum vaccination coverage, so all these potentially discouraged people could be an important issue.

With some younger people, when the time comes, the problem might not be computer literacy, but "couldn't be arsed", if current behaviour patterns are a guide.

Is there a case for having vaccination teams visit places of employment such as supermarkets and making it easy and convenient for, say, supermarket workers? Once you get down to the under-50s the risk calculations might warrant this.

These points are made with the objective of general risk minimisation, and are not intended to pass judgement on anyone, young or old.

titan18 · 15-04-2021 10:16AM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's not a threat it's been HSE policy all the way through this that you can't pick and choose. I don't think there will be loads and that people seem be happy to take what they're given. As for going to the back of the queue, from a system and management perspective it makes sense. They will be able to say we are now on the 60, 59, 45, 32 group etc. At the end of it they will have just have a miscellaneous group to wrap up.

Course its a threat. Take the vaccine or else in effect.

I know of a fair few in their 60s who are debating taking it tbh so I reckon there could be a fair bit. One age group being given it with all the reported issues isn't a good look no matter what way anyone spins it. The best thing they can do imo is have Martin (as he's 60) take it live on air (LLS/Prime Time or whatever) and I think a lot of the resistance would go. As it is, anecdotally there seems to be a fair bit of resistance.

Stark · 15-04-2021 10:16AM

Anyone have a link to the onboarding video out of curiosity?

vienne86 · 15-04-2021 10:17AM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's not a threat it's been HSE policy all the way through this that you can't pick and choose. I don't think there will be loads and that people seem to be happy to take what they're given. As for going to the back of the queue, from a system and management perspective it makes sense. They will be able to say we are now on the 60, 59, 45, 32 group etc. At the end of it they will have just have a miscellaneous group to wrap up.

And I think the HSE are right to not let people pick and choose. Much as I would prefer to be getting the Phizer vaccine, I know that there a lots and lots of people who would bight my hand off for the registration this morning for the AstraZenecca jab.

iamwhoiam · 15-04-2021 10:18AM

Stark wrote: »

Anyone have a link to the onboarding video out of curiosity?

https://www.newstalk.com/news/coronavirus-vaccine-portal-heres-what-you-need-to-do-1179989

is_that_so · 15-04-2021 10:18AM

Economics101 wrote: »

Looking at the comments about the new HSE vaccine booking system, I wonder how many people in the 60-69 age group will have trouble in navigating the system. There will be a not-insignificant number who don't have email, or a mobile, or perhaps a PPSN. There will also be people who are simply phobic about online bookings and who struggle to get the (10-character?!!) password right. Sure, they can phone the HSE, but given how dreadful so many phone hotlines are, I just wonder. There is a huge public interest in getting maximum vaccination coverage, so all these potentially discouraged people could be an important issue.

With some younger people, when the time comes, the problem might not be computer literacy, but "couldn't be arsed", if current behaviour patterns are a guide.

Is there a case for having vaccination teams visit places of employment such as supermarkets and making it easy and convenient for, say, supermarket workers? Once you get down to the under-50s the risk calculations might warrant this.

These points are made with the objective of general risk minimisation, and are not intended to pass judgement on anyone, young or old.

Are you sure you've got absolutely every negative point you can think of in there? Most 60-69 are far from feeble and well able to do things for themselves. There's also no pressure on them to do it on the date they can book.

PMBC · 15-04-2021 10:20AM

Just registered. Had to wait 3 minutes as 900 odd were ahead of me at 10.03. Registration screen appeared at 10.06 so very short wait and completed in a few minutes; relatively easy and *seemed glitch free
*I have a problem with my Caps lock and I think the system continued to display 'Caps lock on' when I was on lower case. However I got it eventually.

funnydoggy · 15-04-2021 10:23AM

Isn't there also a hotline people can ring to sort it?

Hurrache · 15-04-2021 10:23AM

For anyone doing it for someone else, apart from the Eircode, DOB and PPS number, have the persons GP details and either use your own phone or have them have theirs at hand for the registration verification code.

It's a pretty good and straightforward system, even if you don't have the full GP details you enter partially enter it and a list will come up with the full details and address and you can select it from there.

After registration though is there another mail sent out, or is the only mail sent out the one asking to verify the email address used?

josip · 15-04-2021 10:24AM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Isn't there also a hotline people can ring to sort it?

Yes, and thankfully it's not run by Eir.

is_that_so · 15-04-2021 10:25AM

titan18 wrote: »

Course its a threat. Take the vaccine or else in effect.

I know of a fair few in their 60s who are debating taking it tbh so I reckon there could be a fair bit. One age group being given it with all the reported issues isn't a good look no matter what way anyone spins it. The best thing they can do imo is have Martin (as he's 60) take it live on air (LLS/Prime Time or whatever) and I think a lot of the resistance would go. As it is, anecdotally there seems to be a fair bit of resistance.

It's not new at all, Reid is just too nice to say we'll get round to you later means back of the queue. I really don't see the issue here at all. The 65-69 group will be starting very shortly. You either want the vaccine or you don't. If you do than you take it when offered. If for whatever reason you don't the mass vaccination system cannot suit people and you can't really pick dates or the vaccine.

funnydoggy · 15-04-2021 10:26AM

1850 24 1850 is the number I think

Hurrache · 15-04-2021 10:26AM

Economics101 wrote: »

Looking at the comments about the new HSE vaccine booking system, I wonder how many people in the 60-69 age group will have trouble in navigating the system. There will be a not-insignificant number who don't have email, or a mobile, or perhaps a PPSN. There will also be people who are simply phobic about online bookings and who struggle to get the (10-character?!!) password right. Sure, they can phone the HSE, but given how dreadful so many phone hotlines are, I just wonder. There is a huge public interest in getting maximum vaccination coverage, so all these potentially discouraged people could be an important issue.

With some younger people, when the time comes, the problem might not be computer literacy, but "couldn't be arsed", if current behaviour patterns are a guide.

Is there a case for having vaccination teams visit places of employment such as supermarkets and making it easy and convenient for, say, supermarket workers? Once you get down to the under-50s the risk calculations might warrant this.

These points are made with the objective of general risk minimisation, and are not intended to pass judgement on anyone, young or old.

Seriously, they've made it pretty straightforward to do it a number of ways, don't be a reverse Maude Flaunders looking for holes for the geriatrics at a stretch.

is_that_so · 15-04-2021 10:28AM

The link

https://vaccine.hse.ie/

Beasty · 15-04-2021 10:30AM

Threads merged

Furze99 · 15-04-2021 10:34AM

titan18 wrote: »

Course its a threat. Take the vaccine or else in effect.

I know of a fair few in their 60s who are debating taking it tbh so I reckon there could be a fair bit. One age group being given it with all the reported issues isn't a good look no matter what way anyone spins it. The best thing they can do imo is have Martin (as he's 60) take it live on air (LLS/Prime Time or whatever) and I think a lot of the resistance would go. As it is, anecdotally there seems to be a fair bit of resistance.

It's a straight threat and citizens don't like being threatened. Lot of people inc 60-69 are not anti vax per se but vaccine wary. I'd be one of the latter, happy to take it if all adds up. But here we have a vaccine that several states and health authorities have expressed some concerns about. If these were normal times, it'd be taken off the market as a precaution. These are not normal times, there is a shortage of vaccine, the government needs to be seen to be making progress and there is spare AZ vaccine to be used up. In these circumstances, of course 60-69 yr olds are going to look askance - why should we be asked to take this chance, no matter how small it is or isn't.

If a substantial percentage of 60-69 cohort decline this offer, then the gov has a problem when other vaccines come in. They can't argue on the one hand that these people have a higher rate of issues with Covid, but put these to back of queue whilst jabbing themselves & 20 yr olds. Won't wash.

iamwhoiam · 15-04-2021 10:37AM

Here’s the full list of vaccination centre locations:

Sligo IT
Galway Racecourse
Radisson Hotel, Limerick
Páirc Uí Chaoimh
City Hall Cork
MTU Campus Melbourn Building
WIT Arena
Aviva Stadium
Citywest Convention Centre
International Arena AIT, Athlone
Helix Theatre DCU
Letterkenny Institute of Technology
Kilmore Hotel, Co Cavan
Hillgrove Hotel, Co Monaghan
Primary Care Unit, Carrick on Shannon
Breaffy House Resort, Castlebar
Abbey Hotel, Roscommon
West County Hotel, Ennis
Abbeycourt Hotel, Nenagh
Mallow GAA Club
Killarney Sports & Leisure Centre
Clonakilty GAA Club
Bantry Primary Care Centre
Kerry Sports Academy
Cillin Hill Conference Centre, Kilkenny
The Clonmel Park Hotel
Riverside Hotel Enniscorthy
Carlow IT
Shoreline Leisure Centre, Greystones
Arklow Bay Hotel & Conference Centre
Punchestown Racecourse
Bloomfield House Hotel, Mullingar
Simmonstown GAA Club, Navan
Midlands Park Hotel, Portlaoise
Fairways Hotel, Dundalk
Clonguish GAA Club, Co Longford
Tullamore Court Hotel
Croke Park
As part of the registration process people will be asked to provide their Eircode, so it is likely this will be used to ensure they are sent to a vaccination centre that is close to them.

15-04-2021 10:39AM

Hurrache wrote: »

For anyone doing it for someone else, apart from the Eircode, DOB and PPS number, have the persons GP details and either use your own phone or have them have theirs at hand for the registration verification code.

So you have to be registered with a GP in order to use the portal? Or is there a "I don't have a GP" option?

I moved back to Ireland coincidentally just before the pandemic started and haven't registered with a GP yet.

iamwhoiam · 15-04-2021 10:41AM

Deleted User wrote: »

So you have to be registered with a GP in order to use the portal? Or is there a "I don't have a GP" option?

I moved back to Ireland coincidentally just before the pandemic started and haven't registered with a GP yet.

Yes I watched the video and there is an option for I dont have a GP

Hurrache · 15-04-2021 10:41AM

Deleted User wrote: »

So you have to be registered with a GP in order to use the portal? Or is there a "I don't have a GP" option?

I moved back to Ireland coincidentally just before the pandemic started and haven't registered with a GP yet.

There's a I'm not registered with a GP option you can just check.

15-04-2021 10:41AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Yes I watched the video and there is an option for I dont have a GP

Hurrache wrote: »

There's a I'm not registered with a GP option you can just check.

Cheers!

Van.Bosch · 15-04-2021 10:42AM

Can 67 year olds register today? I know it says Saturday but wondering if it actually stops you.

I wonder when the system will generate the appointments. You would imagine they will start today for appointments next week?

Miike · 15-04-2021 10:44AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Cheers!

You can register for a GP by Telephone at the moment. I would act on that! Just in case anything crops up you've a point of contact

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