Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

Living Off The Splash

I am 69. Not sure that I want to sign up for AZ tomorrow but not sure what the procedure is if I don't........I feel as if all the AZ vaccines will be dumped on the 60 to 69 year olds' until gone, rather than waste them.

I might just register and see what happens without actually confirming an appointment.

Goldengirl

Before anyone thinks otherwise , I am all for all of the vaccines approved, given safely and taking care to recognise and report side effects and adapt the vaccination program promptly .
This is what is happening and I don't think this will be the last bump in the road before we get where we want to be .
Everything looking much better this evening as opposed to last night , for sure , and I do think the age groups allowed to get AZ and J&J will be revised .
Over 60 is very very cautious .

vienne86

lukas8888 wrote: »

I'm 69 and will sign up tomorrow as i am very much in favour of vacination.Having said that given a choice i would have Astra as my last available choice.Hate the thought of 70 being around the corner but would now like to skip a year.Also feel that our age group 60 to 69 are being short changed,59 no Astra 70 no Astra.I am of the opinion that the portal will do well to reach 60 to 65% take up.

I feel the same about AstraZeneca, but I have no desire to be any older than I am!!!! Like others I have spoken with, I feel that this vaccine is being dumped on us and would be feeling a bit better if the age band was more than 10 years. No, not my first choice, but I'm glad to be getting vaccinated fairly soon.

Strazdas

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

I am 69. Not sure that I want to sign up for AZ tomorrow but not sure what the procedure is if I don't........I feel as if all the AZ vaccines will be dumped on the 60 to 69 year olds' until gone, rather than waste them.

I might just register and see what happens without actually confirming an appointment.

I wouldn't be too hasty to dismiss AZ as a vaccine. All the indications are that it actually works : you only have to look at GB / NI.....their current new case numbers are actually a good bit lower than us per capita.

sd1999

Goldengirl wrote: »

Before anyone thinks otherwise , I am all for all of the vaccines approved, given safely and taking care to recognise and report side effects and adapt the vaccination program promptly .
This is what is happening and I don't think this will be the last bump in the road before we get where we want to be .
Everything looking much better this evening as opposed to last night , for sure , and I do think the age groups allowed to get AZ and J&J will be revised .
Over 60 is very very cautious .

Even bringing it down to over 50s would help a lot.

Russman

Goldengirl wrote: »

No waiver .
This waiver is very unlikely to happen medicolegally , despite some people talking about it today .
It leaves the state open to all sorts of legal action , from allowing people to feel that they are not in a position to get a vaccine unless they sign a form, to putting HCWs or the public under duress for fear of losing their livelihood or just their place in the queue.

Your upset and confusion over this and others feeling the pressure to take a vaccine, any vaccine to be able to get back to normal , is just what I am talking about here .
In no way is it fair to ask people to make those sort of choices with new vaccines in the middle of a pandemic and worldwide vaccination program .
Decisions will be made from the top ie NIAC and government, not only to protect the citizens but also to indemnify the state .

Really sensible points. It could well be that it’s more trouble than its worth to go with a waiver, or at least a widely available one, rather than one in certain circumstances. If J&J gets the go ahead and with the extra doses from Pfizer, it may become a complete red herring.

Beasty

Sound like AZ and J&J are likely to be limited in a similar fashion. In the 60-69 age group and I'm guessing I'll get one of the two. No problem with either but the big plus with the J&J one is it's a single dose. A 4 month wait for the 2nd dose of AZ will be a right pain if things open up for people who are fully vaccinated.

nibtrix

vienne86 wrote: »

I presume it will be clear where we actually register! I'm 69 and will let you all know how I get on.

https://vaccine.hse.ie/

Due to open at 10:00 I think

josip

https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/getting-your-vaccine/getting-your-vaccine.html

...
We will add a link to the registration system here on Thursday, 15 April
...

Is it worth waiting up until 00:01 to see if the link appears or is it more likely to appear at 09:00 ?

Van.Bosch

josip wrote: »

https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/getting-your-vaccine/getting-your-vaccine.html



Is it worth waiting up until 00:01 to see if the link appears or is it more likely to appear at 09:00 ?

Do you think someone in the HSE will wait up to turn it on 😀

nibtrix

josip wrote: »

https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/getting-your-vaccine/getting-your-vaccine.html



Is it worth waiting up until 00:01 to see if the link appears or is it more likely to appear at 09:00 ?

https://vaccine.hse.ie/ is the link that will be posted I think. It was open briefly earlier today (presumably for testing) but switched to a “ This service is not available yet.” message earlier this evening.

funnydoggy

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Do you think someone in the HSE will wait up to turn it on 😀

Post of the day :pac:

Van.Bosch

I had thought the waiver was a good idea but the more I think about it I don’t see it as that.

The vaccine is either safe for under 60’s or it’s not, the government/NIAC can’t let people take it if it isn’t safe. If it is safe then no waiver is needed.

Van.Bosch

nibtrix wrote: »

https://vaccine.hse.ie/ is the link that will be posted I think. It was open briefly earlier today (presumably for testing) but switched to a “ This service is not available yet.” message earlier this evening.

Live now but not bookable

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Do we know when J&J will be unpaused?

nibtrix

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Live now but not bookable

Yeah it had the full bookable functionality earlier but it wasn’t linked or searchable so not really “open” for business. Usual testing process for a new application

Living Off The Splash

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

I am 69. Not sure that I want to sign up for AZ tomorrow but not sure what the procedure is if I don't........I feel as if all the AZ vaccines will be dumped on the 60 to 69 year olds' until gone, rather than waste them.

I might just register and see what happens without actually confirming an appointment.

60 was a very conservative cut-off, there have been hardly any cases of the clotting disorder above that age. It's disproportionately affecting younger people, who also have a lower risk from covid. That's why the risk v benefit is not straightforward in young adults.

If you're over 60 it is an absolute no brainer to get the vaccine, your risk from covid is many many times greater than your risk from Astrazeneca.

You should definitely register. You'll get a call or text about an appointment within two weeks.

Van.Bosch

nibtrix wrote: »

Yeah it had the full bookable functionality earlier but it wasn’t linked or searchable so not really “open” for business. Usual testing process for a new application

Yeah - from reading the wording “We’re asking people to register on specific days” and “We will be assigning appointments by age so it doesn’t matter how quickly you register. You won't get your vaccine any sooner if you register earlier.” I wonder will it actually restrict 65 year olds tomorrow.

Strazdas

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Do we know when J&J will be unpaused?

Apparently the EMA will meet next week and may issue a decision after it.

Goldengirl

Beasty wrote: »

Sound like AZ and J&J are likely to be limited in a similar fashion. In the 60-69 age group and I'm guessing I'll get one of the two. No problem with either but the big plus with the J&J one is it's a single dose. A 4 month wait for the 2nd dose of AZ will be a right pain if things open up for people who are fully vaccinated.

I don't think if you are in the 60 to 69 age group that you will have to wait 4 months afaik .
That is just for those younger age groups , non vulnerable , who have had their first dose already , and so they are waiting for a while before they will be getting their 2nd dose,

Goldengirl

josip wrote: »

https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/getting-your-vaccine/getting-your-vaccine.html



Is it worth waiting up until 00:01 to see if the link appears or is it more likely to appear at 09:00 ?

Ahh thanks, josip, for the laugh

stephenjmcd

Handy step by step video for anyone who'll be registering over the next few days

https://youtu.be/v1JoC01Omgc

stephenjmcd

Goldengirl wrote: »

I don't think if you are in the 60 to 69 age group that you will have to wait 4 months afaik .
That is just for those younger age groups , non vulnerable , who have had their first dose already , and so they are waiting for a while before they will be getting their 2nd dose,

Indeed the 60 to 69 group will still get the 2nd dose after 12 weeks.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1381674103661285382?s=19

Goldengirl

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Indeed the 60 to 69 group will still get the 2nd dose after 12 weeks.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1381674103661285382?s=19

Yes . I knew I had seen that somewhere . Thanks .

castletownman

Coincidentally enough, my Dad turns 69 tomorrow.

I can't think of a better belated birthday present than him getting a vaccine in a couple of weeks, all going well.

TomOnBoard

Flying Fox wrote: »

60 was a very conservative cut-off, there have been hardly any cases of the clotting disorder above that age. It's disproportionately affecting younger people, who also have a lower risk from covid. That's why the risk v benefit is not straightforward in young adults.

If you're over 60 it is an absolute no brainer to get the vaccine, your risk from covid is many many times greater than your risk from Astrazeneca.

You should definitely register. You'll get a call or text about an appointment within two weeks.

Just on this question of risk, take a look at https://qcovid.org/Calculation

dominatinMC

Apologies to the mods as, strictly speaking, this isn't about the vaccine, more so the implications of it. But I'd be interested to get the thoughts on this. Restrictions "well into 2022" isn't something I envisaged for an innoculated nation.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40266260.html?type=amp

TomOnBoard

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

I am 69. Not sure that I want to sign up for AZ tomorrow but not sure what the procedure is if I don't........I feel as if all the AZ vaccines will be dumped on the 60 to 69 year olds' until gone, rather than waste them.

I might just register and see what happens without actually confirming an appointment.

Assess your own risk and then decide.

I did the Oxford assessment and it put me at 94/100, where 99/100 means basically youre ****ed if you get Covid. Without health issues and if I was a healthy female of same age, I'd be scoring 71/100.

https://qcovid.org/Calculation

lbj666

dominatinMC wrote: »

Apologies to the mods as, strictly speaking, this isn't about the vaccine, more so the implications of it. But I'd be interested to get the thoughts on this. Restrictions "well into 2022" isn't something I envisaged for an innoculated nation.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40266260.html?type=amp

just following being the trend of being conservative. Last years budget was based on no vacines and a no deal brexit. It didnt allow for such a prolongued level 5 lockdown though

Polar101

While I wouldn't have had a problem accepting the AZ vaccine if the rollout hadn't been restricted, I wouldn't put my name forward to receive it now.

It just wouldn't make a lot of sense - if I get a different vaccine (Pfizer, I assume) in 2-3 months, I'd have my second dose in August (give or take a few weeks). If I volunteered for AZ, I might get that in a couple of weeks, and then get the second dose 12-16 weeks later. So while I'd get the 1st dose faster, my volunteering for AZ wouldn't really help me get the 2nd dose any faster.

That just makes me think there's not much point in voluntary AZ vaccinations.

Edit: I'm not in the 60-69 age group - if I were, then I'd take AZ for sure.