Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

stephenjmcd

vienne86 wrote: »

I thought it was fine. Searching for GP, address by Eircode etc was very smooth and the interface is decent. Obviously I'm retired, but I worked in IT, so I'm comfortable with these things.....it'll be interesting to see how others find the system.

Yeah absolutely.

My father is due to register on Monday and isn't that great with computers, can do the basics but I'll be doing the sign up with him on Monday so can see where some older people would have issues.

funnydoggy

Delighted we're progressing. Had a shít start to the week and things picked up quite quickly.

rm212

Stark wrote: »

Going to be pretty frustrating if J&J people are told "ok that's you done, go enjoy haircuts, pubs and international travel" while AZ people have to wait 12 weeks to enjoy the same despite being given basically the same injection.

Yeah there definitely needs to be something done there. Essentially, if they are allowing someone with J&J to be considered fully vaccinated, someone with one dose of AZ should also be considered so (with regard to rights to do things). Especially with the second dose really just having the effect of prolonging, rather than boosting efficacy much.

namloc1980

vienne86 wrote: »

Okay folks. The portal is open, and I have just registered. Exactly as described in the video.

Best of luck everyone!

Where is it. Can't see anything on HSE.ie homepage

funnydoggy

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-on-track-for-further-easing-of-covid-19-restrictions-after-increase-in-pfizer-vaccines-1.4537665

Ireland on track for further easing of Covid-19 restrictions after increase in Pfizer vaccines

Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly described the news of extra Covid-19 vaccine deliveries as “really positive” and insisted the State is now still on track to offer four out of five adults a coronavirus vaccine by the end of June.


“It’s more than half a million extra vaccines in April, May and June. Pfizer is recommended for use with all age groups and the results from Ireland and abroad show that it’s incredibly effective against Covid. It keeps Ireland on track for four in every five adults who wants a vaccine being offered one by the end of June. We’re working flat out with the HSE and taskforce to make sure our vaccine programme continues to get vaccines out to people as soon as they arrive in Ireland,” he told The Irish Times.

is_that_so

namloc1980 wrote: »

Where is it. Can't see anything on HSE.ie homepage

https://vaccine.hse.ie/

vienne86

rm212 wrote: »

Yeah there definitely needs to be something done there. Essentially, if they are allowing someone with J&J to be considered fully vaccinated, someone with one dose of AZ should also be considered so (with regard to rights to do things). Especially with the second dose really just having the effect of prolonging, rather than boosting efficacy much.

If 60-69 year-olds have to wait three months+ to get their hair sorted, there'll be all out war.

PhilOssophy

If somebody isn't happy with the 39 clicks, they can always just call the hotline.
The things people complain about is right.
Security exists on these things for a reason.

iamwhoiam

is_that_so wrote: »

https://vaccine.hse.ie/

Thank you ! I feel like a child on Christmas morning opening that link !

GeorgeBailey

vienne86 wrote: »

If 60-69 year-olds have to wait three months+ to get their hair sorted, there'll be all out war.

Did Ronan Glynn not say earlier in the week that there shouldn't be a need for a vaccine passport if 80%-ish have had their first shot?

is_that_so

vienne86 wrote: »

If 60-69 year-olds have to wait three months+ to get their hair sorted, there'll be all out war.

That's just rumoured. We'll have few full vaccinations for a good while. They are talking about May opening of services so it's more likely to be as we were last summer

Hurrache

Klonker wrote: »

Does anyone else think it would be a great political move by Michael Martin to get the AZ vaccine in the coming days as an encouragement for the 60-69 group that this is a safe vaccine? I think him slightly jumping the que would be justified by the good it would bring. I know most on here with jump at the chance of getting AZ soon but a lot of the 60-69's feel singled out and have vaccine hesitency that they never had until yesterday. He's 60 so there's a good chance he'll end of getting the AZ vaccine anyway.

Can you imagine the **** show of whingers complaining that he skipped the queue and all that absolute nonsense if he did.

vienne86

Hurrache wrote: »

Can you imagine the **** show of whingers complaining that he skipped the queue and all that absolute nonsense if he did.

Yeah, you're right. But I hope he get AstraZeneca and that he gets it fairly soon.

iamwhoiam

vienne86 wrote: »

Yeah, you're right. But I hope he get AstraZeneca and that he gets it fairly soon.

I will be interested to hear when you get a date for a vaccine . Hopefully not too long to wait

vienne86

PhilOssophy wrote: »

If somebody isn't happy with the 39 clicks, they can always just call the hotline.
The things people complain about is right.
Security exists on these things for a reason.

I can't get my head around bothering to count the clicks here. I found it reassuring to get the email and the text so that I know they were typed in OK.

Living Off The Splash

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Varadkar on morning Ireland was asked the question surrounding vaccine choice. If someone gets an appointment for AZ but prefers Pfizer etc you will go to the end of the queue. When asked how long that would take would it be June of July he said it wouldn't it would be at the end of the rollout

https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1382597559361867778?s=20

He said that it might be the autumn before they get their vaccine if they refuse to register this week....

But he also confirmed that 80% of all adults should be vaccinated by the end of June.

So it appears that we will have to sit on the bold step for several months after 80% of the population have been vaccinated as some sort of punishment.

namloc1980

Just registered the mother in law there. Very easy, took a couple of minutes. She's delighted now.

Manach

Whilst have the portal ready is good news, if would have been nice if they had put some effort into the less technical task of providing a simple communication interface for checking when the houseboud will received their vaccine. Whilst yesterday's Government statement boosted that this group is nearing completion, there is no indication of this being the case for the housebound and their carers.

iamwhoiam

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

You'd have to wonder at the thought process all right. "This is too much work. I'm going to make it even more work by counting the clicks".

Counting clicks would stress me out !! I would loose count and have to start again !
Personally if I have 100 clicks and asked to stand up , sit down 10 times I will !!!

titan18

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Varadkar on morning Ireland was asked the question surrounding vaccine choice. If someone gets an appointment for AZ but prefers Pfizer etc you will go to the end of the queue. When asked how long that would take would it be June of July he said it wouldn't it would be at the end of the rollout

https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1382597559361867778?s=20

You'd wonder is that legal consent? Like the whole signing a contract you need to not be under duress, which you can argue not getting a vaccine until months later is.

funnydoggy

Some people can be awful whingers.

I had a small elderly customer complain to me once in work that she had trouble entering the shop, as the entrance was too narrow. As she said that, I looked around and saw a woman pushing a double buggy around the shop.

To clarify, the entrance could fit 2 double buggies side by side.

JMR46

Manach wrote: »

Whilst have the portal ready is good news, if would have been nice if they had put some effort into the less technical task of providing a simple communication interface for checking when the houseboud will received their vaccine. Whilst yesterday's Government statement boosted that this group is nearing completion, there is no indication of this being the case for the housebound and their carers.

Ya I certainly would like to know as I have a 96 yr old relative who is housebound and waiting to be vaccinated. It was mentioned in the Dail weeks ago that they had 600/1800 first doses given out but nothing since.
Maybe another update will come in the Dáil today, fingers crossed.

BTW I think they're handling the rollout very well in general but this particular area could surely be better.

is_that_so

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

He said that it might be the autumn before they get their vaccine if they refuse to register this week....

But he also confirmed that 80% of all adults should be vaccinated by the end of June.

So it appears that we will have to sit on the bold step for several months after 80% of the population have been vaccinated as some sort of punishment.

There's no bold step, people can't pick and choose with vaccines. As we've seen so far they'll move to the next person on the list. In a national plan there is no scope for people to gum it up while they select from a menu.

Russman

vienne86 wrote: »

Okay folks. The portal is open, and I have just registered. Exactly as described in the video.

Best of luck everyone!

Yep, just registered my mother a few mins ago. Simple enough to do really. she probably could have done it herself easily enough.

is_that_so

titan18 wrote: »

You'd wonder is that legal consent? Like the whole signing a contract you need to not be under duress, which you can argue not getting a vaccine until months later is.

This looks like complete overthinking. Vaccines will be available and people can opt to take them or not. Neither the State nor anyone else care what individuals unless we don't get enough vaccinated. By the looks of demand for vaccines this scenario will not arise.

is_that_so

Russman wrote: »

Yep, just registered my mother a few mins ago. Simple enough to do really. she probably could have done it herself easily enough.

But then you wouldn't be basking in the glow of being the good son!:D

is_that_so

is_that_so wrote: »

There's no bold step, people can't pick and choose with vaccines. As we've seen so far they'll move to the next person on the list. In a national plan there is no scope for people to gum it up while they select from a menu.

There will come a point relatively soon (especially with Pfizer), where to avoid wastage they will simply have to put word out doses are available at a specific location today, first come first served (if in an eligible group). It happened in Israel and happens daily in the US.

I'd imagine this is where there may be scope for people to "gum it up".

funnydoggy

GREAT article from Derek Lowe

Vaccine Side Effects Q and A

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/04/14/vaccine-side-effects-q-and-a

is_that_so

Deleted User wrote: »

There will come a point relatively soon (especially with Pfizer), where to avoid wastage they will simply have to put word out doses are available at a specific location today, first come first served (if in an eligible group). It happened in Israel and happens daily in the US.

I'd imagine this is where there may be scope for people to "gum it up".

That's likely to be small numbers and it's a given. TBF some of the hiccups aside we seem to be able to manage that in our plan. Grabbing random people to complete vials doesn't automatically equate to facilitating refusniks waiting for their favourite jab. If you want a jab take it when they offer it, otherwise accept the system will move on.

titan18

is_that_so wrote: »

That's likely to be small numbers and it's a given. TBF some of the hiccups aside we seem to be able to manage that in our plan. Grabbing random people to complete vials doesn't automatically equate to facilitating refusniks waiting for their favourite jab. If you want a jab take it when they offer it, otherwise accept the system will move on.

If there's a mass of people refusing AZ (and since that's a higher risk age group too), it'll be interesting to see what they do. Today is him just threatening people to take it, and the back of the queue process works if it's a small minority. If loads refuse it, it'll be more interesting.