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Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Apologies to the mods as, strictly speaking, this isn't about the vaccine, more so the implications of it. But I'd be interested to get the thoughts on this. Restrictions "well into 2022" isn't something I envisaged for an innoculated nation.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40266260.html?type=amp

    Probably off topic however it's pretty difficult to predict the future but we can really look to the impact of vaccination in other countries.

    The dept of finance have to always look at the worst case scenarios when coming up with projections.

    The budget for example back in October was based on a hard no deal brexit and no vaccine. Look at us now, neither has come to pass.

    If things move along at a quicker pace then it's good for everyone, us and the states coffers, but business supports etc will have to remain for a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Post of the day :pac:

    Post of the Day in the Snarky, ****ty, Sarcastic league table perhaps! People in the HSE and related agencies that have been involved in trying to deal with this pandemic have been working absolutely flat out for a year now. Give it a rest with the snark and realise that these are people too, and are doing more than any of us keyboard warriors to help keep us safe and get through this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭JPup


    Beasty wrote: »
    Sound like AZ and J&J are likely to be limited in a similar fashion. In the 60-69 age group and I'm guessing I'll get one of the two. No problem with either but the big plus with the J&J one is it's a single dose. A 4 month wait for the 2nd dose of AZ will be a right pain if things open up for people who are fully vaccinated.

    One dose of J&J gives very similar protection to one dose of AZ though. Probably better off long term health wise to get the second dose. J&J recipients will probably need a second booster dose eventually anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,009 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Apologies to the mods as, strictly speaking, this isn't about the vaccine, more so the implications of it. But I'd be interested to get the thoughts on this. Restrictions "well into 2022" isn't something I envisaged for an innoculated nation.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40266260.html?type=amp

    Business supports , continuing PUP or other extra social welfare supports for those whose jobs in entertainment hospitality or travel may still be affected . Hopefully all will be well back but lots of businesses won't reopen without a lot of help .
    Hospitals and healthcare are going to need extra to try to get waiting lists and backlogs cleared while maintaining a safe Covid free environment .
    And Covid will still be here although not as prominent so vaccination and test and trace will continue .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,009 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Post of the Day in the Snarky, ****ty, Sarcastic league table perhaps! People in the HSE and related agencies that have been involved in trying to deal with this pandemic have been working absolutely flat out for a year now. Give it a rest with the snark and realise that these are people too, and are doing more than any of us keyboard warriors to help keep us safe and get through this!

    Ah, I am in the healthcare business and I found it funny too ! ;)

    Let's face it we are not known for our tech savvy sites !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I’d like to know what vaccines that the Minister for Health will take, or Paul Reid, Ronan Glynn or any of the rest of them like Varadkar. And have the same please. Don’t see why 60-69 yr olds are being asked to take a vaccine with ??? If the HSE and government want a PR win, they’re going the wrong way about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Post of the Day in the Snarky, ****ty, Sarcastic league table perhaps! People in the HSE and related agencies that have been involved in trying to deal with this pandemic have been working absolutely flat out for a year now. Give it a rest with the snark and realise that these are people too, and are doing more than any of us keyboard warriors to help keep us safe and get through this!

    If you've seen any of my posts on here, you'd know that I'm not critical or snarky towards the HSE. It is healthy to laugh at things, and I'm sure lots of people in the hse would also find a comment like that funny. It's important not to take things too seriously at times, for levity.

    You can trust me, I'm a funnydoggy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Post of the Day in the Snarky, ****ty, Sarcastic league table perhaps! People in the HSE and related agencies that have been involved in trying to deal with this pandemic have been working absolutely flat out for a year now. Give it a rest with the snark and realise that these are people too, and are doing more than any of us keyboard warriors to help keep us safe and get through this!

    It’s an Irish thing to assume the worst in everything and have a laugh.

    Sure websites can be programmed to go live at a fixed time so it was just a joke!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    Does anyone else think it would be a great political move by Michael Martin to get the AZ vaccine in the coming days as an encouragement for the 60-69 group that this is a safe vaccine? I think him slightly jumping the que would be justified by the good it would bring. I know most on here with jump at the chance of getting AZ soon but a lot of the 60-69's feel singled out and have vaccine hesitency that they never had until yesterday. He's 60 so there's a good chance he'll end of getting the AZ vaccine anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Ah, I am in the healthcare business and I found it funny too ! ;)

    Let's face it we are not known for our tech savvy sites !

    I too, am in the health sector. I found it offensive and ignorant of the facts! Time was, ppl used to stop whatever they were doing to clap together to signal support and gratitude for those in healthcare who were keeping us safe. How quickly we forget!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,985 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Furze99 wrote: »
    I’d like to know what vaccines that the Minister for Health will take, or Paul Reid, Ronan Glynn or any of the rest of them like Varadkar. And have the same please. Don’t see why 60-69 yr olds are being asked to take a vaccine with ??? If the HSE and government want a PR win, they’re going the wrong way about it.
    I would like to know how many of the above, or of 'the rest of them', have not been vaccinated already...

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Qrt


    Apologies to the mods as, strictly speaking, this isn't about the vaccine, more so the implications of it. But I'd be interested to get the thoughts on this. Restrictions "well into 2022" isn't something I envisaged for an innoculated nation.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40266260.html?type=amp

    Offer everyone a vaccine, then just open up within reason and see how it plays out. Honestly I cannot deal with another year of online college, we’ll find up years of dumbed-down grads soon enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,186 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    JPup wrote: »
    One dose of J&J gives very similar protection to one dose of AZ though. Probably better off long term health wise to get the second dose. J&J recipients will probably need a second booster dose eventually anyway.

    Going to be pretty frustrating if J&J people are told "ok that's you done, go enjoy haircuts, pubs and international travel" while AZ people have to wait 12 weeks to enjoy the same despite being given basically the same injection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭PatrickDoherty


    Klonker wrote: »
    Does anyone else think it would be a great political move by Michael Martin to get the AZ vaccine in the coming days as an encouragement for the 60-69 group that this is a safe vaccine? I think him slightly jumping the que would be justified by the good it would bring. I know most on here with jump at the chance of getting AZ soon but a lot of the 60-69's feel singled out and have vaccine hesitency that they never had until yesterday. He's 60 so there's a good chance he'll end of getting the AZ vaccine anyway.


    You think cabinet havent had theirs yet? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭nibtrix


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    I too, am in the health sector. I found it offensive and ignorant of the facts! Time was, ppl used to stop whatever they were doing to clap together to signal support and gratitude for those in healthcare who were keeping us safe. How quickly we forget!

    That’s a bit over the top for what was a very mild joke that clearly wasn’t directed at frontline healthcare workers. Suggesting that “the HSE” as an organisation should not be criticised in any way due to the efforts of FHCWs during the pandemic is asking people to ignore the years of mismanagement of the healthcare system.


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    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    Do you think someone in the HSE will wait up to turn it on ��

    The manager charged with turning it on is currently waiting for his "hit return of the keyboard" change of work practices allowance and associated training day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    I too, am in the health sector. I found it offensive and ignorant of the facts! Time was, ppl used to stop whatever they were doing to clap together to signal support and gratitude for those in healthcare who were keeping us safe. How quickly we forget!

    Where do you work? Our Lady's of the Perpetually Offended?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Varadkar on morning Ireland was asked the question surrounding vaccine choice. If someone gets an appointment for AZ but prefers Pfizer etc you will go to the end of the queue. When asked how long that would take would it be June of July he said it wouldn't it would be at the end of the rollout

    https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1382597559361867778?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Varadkar on morning Ireland was asked the question surrounding vaccine choice. If someone gets an appointment for AZ but prefers Pfizer etc you will go to the end of the queue. When asked how long that would take would it be June of July he said it wouldn't it would be at the end of the rollout

    https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1382597559361867778?s=20
    Which is what Reid has been trying to say nicely all along. He's the right person to come out with this too and it does need to be that blunt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Varadkar on morning Ireland was asked the question surrounding vaccine choice. If someone gets an appointment for AZ but prefers Pfizer etc you will go to the end of the queue. When asked how long that would take would it be June of July he said it wouldn't it would be at the end of the rollout

    https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1382597559361867778?s=20

    That is fine but did he say anything about people under 60 who are not in the very or high risk groups being able to "volunteer" to take AZ by signing a Waiver ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    That is fine but did he say anything about people under 60 who are not in the very or high risk groups being able to "volunteer" to take AZ by signing a Waiver ?
    I believe that's still under consideration. It's not going to be an issue for at least a month with the 60-69s to get through and all the second shots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    That is fine but did he say anything about people under 60 who are not in the very or high risk groups being able to "volunteer" to take AZ by signing a Waiver ?

    It's being looked into along with the possible spacing of Pfizer doses for younger age groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Which is what Reid has been trying to say nicely all along. He's the right person to come out with this too and it does need to be that blunt.

    Yeah I think someone needed to just say it out straight. Paul Reid has been trying to say it in a non offensive way but it just needed to be put bluntly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,956 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    I too, am in the health sector. I found it offensive and ignorant of the facts! Time was, ppl used to stop whatever they were doing to clap together to signal support and gratitude for those in healthcare who were keeping us safe. How quickly we forget!

    The utter state of that sector is why healthy people have been heavily restricted for a year now. Clap clap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    You think cabinet havent had theirs yet? :)

    Unless they are absolutely stupid, I think they can surely see the fall out that would cause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,078 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Okay folks. The portal is open, and I have just registered. Exactly as described in the video.

    Best of luck everyone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    vienne86 wrote: »
    Okay folks. The portal is open, and I have just registered. Exactly as described in the video.

    Best of luck everyone!

    Good stuff, how long did the process take you ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,078 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Good stuff, how long did the process take you ?

    A couple of minutes. Password has to be 10 characters with all the usual requirement of special character, upper case....etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    vienne86 wrote: »
    A couple of minutes. Password has to be 10 characters with all the usual requirement of special character, upper case....etc.

    Great

    Yeah I see a few people giving out that its 39 clicks to register, between hitting next, opening your email for verification etc.

    The things people complain about.....

    Didn't think it would take all that long myself. It's the standard stuff you usually fill in before getting the flu jab.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,078 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Great

    Yeah I see a few people giving out that its 39 clicks to register, between hitting next, opening your email for verification etc.

    The things people complain about.....

    Didn't think it would take all that long myself. It's the standard stuff you usually fill in before getting the flu jab.

    I thought it was fine. Searching for GP, address by Eircode etc was very smooth and the interface is decent. Obviously I'm retired, but I worked in IT, so I'm comfortable with these things.....it'll be interesting to see how others find the system.


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