Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

funnydoggy · 14-04-2021 05:35PM

rm212 wrote: »

Correct. Everyone in that age range is vulnerable.

Ah jesus sorry I'm after confusing myself now lol! Cheers!

Turtwig · 14-04-2021 05:37PM

irishrepeat2 wrote: »

Wait so people are to get their 2nd dose if they've already received their first AZ dose. Has this been confirmed? Even if under 60?

That's the current guidance from NIAC. If the individual under 60 has a medical risk they should get the second dose in 12 weeks. If there's no medical risk they should wait for 16 weeks to give NIAC further time to assess the risk benefit.

Russman · 14-04-2021 05:38PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Consent with AZ being looked into

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1382369122844041227?s=19

Probably not the worst idea, administratively and logistically it could be very tricky.

Miike · 14-04-2021 05:39PM

irishrepeat2 wrote: »

Wait so people are to get their 2nd dose if they've already received their first AZ dose. Has this been confirmed? Even if under 60?

That question is being put to NIAC by the HSE.

If people under 60 consent knowing the risks can they still receive the vaccine. My question is how is that consent valid (for healthcare workers) in the eyes of the law given the looming threats from Paul Reid and now HIQA.

funnydoggy · 14-04-2021 05:41PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yup anyone in that age range. If someone fits into the risk groupings they'll still go through either GP or consultant

That's grand. Other half's dad is 65 so he'll be delighted. Kinda confused myself but forgot they were doing cohorts in parallel. Thanks stephenjmcd :-)

ACitizenErased · 14-04-2021 05:44PM

All 65-69s within 2 weeks is pretty impressive
https://twitter.com/micheallehane/status/1382373739849990153?s=21

Klonker · 14-04-2021 05:45PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Donnelly on Newstalk now saying we’re still on track for the 80% with first dose by June even without J&J

Hopefully J&J is just a short term precaution. Throw those 600k single doses on top and everyone adult who wants a vaccine will have one dose and we'll be a long way to having majority fully vaccinated too.

nibtrix · 14-04-2021 05:57PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

All 65-69s within 2 weeks is pretty impressive
https://twitter.com/micheallehane/status/1382373739849990153?s=21

“Will receive an appointment” within 2 weeks, or “will receive an appointment for a date that is within 2 weeks”, I wonder!

iamwhoiam · 14-04-2021 06:11PM

nibtrix wrote: »

“Will receive an appointment” within 2 weeks, or “will receive an appointment for a date that is within 2 weeks”, I wonder!

Yeh its not clear .

Strazdas · 14-04-2021 06:13PM

Russman wrote: »

Probably not the worst idea, administratively and logistically it could be very tricky.

Could definitely be done via the online portal route : open it up to sections of people under 60 who are already eligible and ask them to register for an appointment.

Strazdas · 14-04-2021 06:14PM

nibtrix wrote: »

“Will receive an appointment” within 2 weeks, or “will receive an appointment for a date that is within 2 weeks”, I wonder!

RTE say the vaccinations will start 'next week'.

irishrepeat2 · 14-04-2021 06:24PM

Miike wrote: »

That question is being put to NIAC by the HSE.

If people under 60 consent knowing the risks can they still receive the vaccine. My question is how is that consent valid (for healthcare workers) in the eyes of the law given the looming threats from Paul Reid and now HIQA.

So it's not confirmed? With doses due soon they need the make a decision fast

KrustyUCC · 14-04-2021 06:40PM

Paul Moyna had a very good interview on the six one news

He's in favour of spreading out dose two of Preizer to allow more people get dose one

He said that would have a positive affect on hospitalisations, ICU and transmission

Tyrone212 · 14-04-2021 06:47PM

My uncle (60s)was due to have his vaccine on Tuesday but all AstraZeneca were cancelled as we know. The hospital rang him this afternoon and he's getting his AstraZeneca vaccine Tomorrow.

Tyrone212 · 14-04-2021 06:51PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Paul Moyna had a very good interview on the six one news

He's in favour of spreading out dose two of Preizer to allow more people get dose one

He said that would have a positive affect on hospitalisations, ICU and transmission

Surely if they increased it to 6 to 8 weeks from 4 weeks even more than 80% would have their first jab by the end of June? Even more Pfizer coming in 3Q so makes sense to me.

thecretinhop · 14-04-2021 06:53PM

Such great news in the last few hours.
it feels like i have woke up from a nightmare of madness which was yesterday. De woman behind pzier jab will defo win nobel prize u wud think

Probes · 14-04-2021 06:55PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Paul Moyna had a very good interview on the six one news

He's in favour of spreading out dose two of Preizer to allow more people get dose one

He said that would have a positive affect on hospitalisations, ICU and transmission

I think I agree at this point. I've anecdotally had a vulnerable family member test negative after sitting in a car for 45 mins with someone who was Covid positive. That was after one AZ dose. The vaccines seem pretty potent with one dose and by giving everyone a first dose we can halt this in its tracks, or we can wait twice as long for this to end.

KrustyUCC · 14-04-2021 06:59PM

Tyrone212 wrote: »

Surely if they increased it to 6 to 8 weeks from 4 weeks even more than 80% would have their first jab by the end of June? Even more Pfizer coming in 3Q so makes sense to me.

All depends on J&J

600,000 fully vaccinated people would be some hole in the plan

Will be interesting to see if the government can get the plan for extending Pfeizer second doses past NIAC

I'm not sure they will but hopefully they can

VonLuck · 14-04-2021 07:00PM

Today has really been a great news day:

Significant additional supply confirmed from Pfizer for Q2
Serious discussions on pushing out second dose of Pfizer to 6-8 weeks, increasing the speed at administering the first dose
Still on track for 80% of adults receiving first dose by June despite AZ and JJ issues
Consideration being given to waivers for AZ for those under 60 willing to take it
65-69 year old booking portal to start from tomorrow with an expected appointment 1-2 weeks from booking

Amazing how things can completely turn around in the space of 24 hours.

ACitizenErased · 14-04-2021 07:00PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

All depends on J&J

600,000 fully vaccinated people would be some hole in the plan

Will be interesting to see if the government can get the plan for extending Pfeizer second doses past NIAC

I'm not sure they will but hopefully they can

Target will be met even without J&J

JacksonHeightsOwn · 14-04-2021 07:02PM

And fingers crossed CureVac comes in June to help out also.

The more mRNA vaccines the better it seems.

Oh, and sputnik, if approved. I forgot about gg mad Russians

Miike · 14-04-2021 07:17PM

JacksonHeightsOwn wrote: »

And fingers crossed CureVac comes in June to help out also.

The more mRNA vaccines the better it seems.

Oh, and sputnik, if approved. I forgot about gg mad Russians

Sputnik is under investigation for breach of ethical rules in their clinical trial and stands accused of sending different/subpar product than what was agreed :eek:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-08/russia-demands-vaccine-shots-back-after-slovakia-doubts-quality

https://www.ft.com/content/50031165-1f46-446b-be9a-36d553805fec

Stark · 14-04-2021 07:23PM

Sputnik is also adenovirus viral vector like AstraZeneca/J&J so I imagine if those two are put on hold, Sputnik would be too.

noplacehere · 14-04-2021 07:23PM

I’m just catching up here and a little confused.

I’m a very high risk cohort in my thirties. I was given one dose of AstraZeneca.

As of this morning my understanding was I was going to be given the second jab as planned at the end of June.

Now I’m seeing some speculation we’d have to sign a waiver? What happens if we don’t want to sign the waiver? Can we get a different vaccine instead? Or do we go to the end of the line? There is a family history of clotting but not my own

TomOnBoard · 14-04-2021 07:25PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

We should really have a bank Holiday to honour the guys in Biontech who created the vaccine and the gang at Pfizer who produced it in huge numbers.

If/when we get out of this, that vaccine is going to have played a massive roll - and to think a few months ago AZ was considered the game changer

Jaze, have you not had enough days with feckin everything shut tight? If you want to honour these guys, arrange a 48-hour shopathon, during which nothing closes down...

muddypuppy · 14-04-2021 07:30PM

noplacehere wrote: »

I’m just catching up here and a little confused.

I’m a very high risk cohort in my thirties. I was given one dose of AstraZeneca.

As of this morning my understanding was I was going to be given the second jab as planned at the end of June.

Now I’m seeing some speculation we’d have to sign a waiver? What happens if we don’t want to sign the waiver? Can we get a different vaccine instead? Or do we go to the end of the line? There is a family history of clotting but not my own

See https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/astrazeneca/vaccinations-restarted.html
At the moment the official policy is that since you're high risk you will receive your second dose as planned after 12 weeks.

Anyway it's a rapidly evolving situation, so things might change in a few days.

Champagne Sally · 14-04-2021 07:37PM

I wonder if any of our lovely posters are 69 or have a close relative that is, I’d love to hear how they got on with the portal tomorrow if they would be kind enough to post about it.

ddarcy · 14-04-2021 07:45PM

muddypuppy wrote: »

See https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/astrazeneca/vaccinations-restarted.html
At the moment the official policy is that since you're high risk you will receive your second dose as planned after 12 weeks.

Anyway it's a rapidly evolving situation, so things might change in a few days.

This will be interesting to see what happens. I can most definitely see a successful legal challenge to this. I’m assuming that they’re trying to kick the can down the road to get a better solution.

But the two major issues as it stands are that if you’re healthy and under 60 then it’s unsafe. If you are in an at risk group, whom are prone to more / severe adverse reactions to treatments it’s grand. How they aren’t seeing this problem is beyond me.

The second issue is if you go down to switching, when do you switch and do you have to start over again are the questions that need to be answered.

The way I see it right now, the NAIC will have you wait 12 weeks and then start Pfizer/ Moderna and get two doses. Obviously this changes if the AZ is massively revised down age wise or JJ gets approved for all etc.

Strazdas · 14-04-2021 07:46PM

noplacehere wrote: »

I’m just catching up here and a little confused.

I’m a very high risk cohort in my thirties. I was given one dose of AstraZeneca.

As of this morning my understanding was I was going to be given the second jab as planned at the end of June.

Now I’m seeing some speculation we’d have to sign a waiver? What happens if we don’t want to sign the waiver? Can we get a different vaccine instead? Or do we go to the end of the line? There is a family history of clotting but not my own

Not for anyone receiving a second AZ dose as far as I know. You have already been vaccinated with one dose and the intention is to give people like you your second dose after 12 weeks as planned.

This talk of a waiver seems to be for people under 60 who have yet to receive an AZ dose but who might want one.

stephenjmcd · 14-04-2021 07:51PM

noplacehere wrote: »

I’m just catching up here and a little confused.

I’m a very high risk cohort in my thirties. I was given one dose of AstraZeneca.

As of this morning my understanding was I was going to be given the second jab as planned at the end of June.

Now I’m seeing some speculation we’d have to sign a waiver? What happens if we don’t want to sign the waiver? Can we get a different vaccine instead? Or do we go to the end of the line? There is a family history of clotting but not my own

No not for 2nd dose.

It's for anyone u60 as part of general rollout. There is talk of the possibility of consent being signed by the person if they wanted to get AZ

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