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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #6092
    NIAC Fanboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    Lumen wrote: »
    This from Germany looks much the same...

    https://m.dw.com/en/covid-has-a-dramatic-impact-on-children/a-56459428

    Where in that article does it say the chief medical officer in Germany is actively out in the media discouraging play dates?


  • #6093
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭prunudo


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    So don't open up society until we have a critical mass or allow those vaccinated to live some form of a normal life? I don't see why we wouldn't allow those who are vaccinated to live a life somewhat more free. I won't be vaccinated for a long time but I won't begrudge those who are or feel that they should wait for me to join the party before they have a drink.

    Really, so given that we have the majority of the vulnerable vaccinated, you will be happy to live in a two teir society, where vaccinated people can go for a pint but healthy people who generally aren't seriously affected if they contract covid must stay locked down.

    Not only that, but your ability to enjoy other freedoms is dependent on pharmaceutical companies being true to their word and actually delivering what they promise. A case of you might get a vaccine in June, but sure we cant say so we'll get back to you. All the while hospital numbers are falling and completely manageable.


  • #6094
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    NIAC Fanboy wrote: »
    The only bullsh1tter is you.

    NPHET described the report as misleading. So they dumbed down its relevance.

    In lay man's language they poured cold water on it.

    As soon as you don't get your way you retort to calling everyboby somebody else says a lie.

    Very Donald Trump of you. Just start shouting abuse at people for saying something you don't like.

    No, you’re just a compulsive liar. Maybe you shouldn’t lie so much if you’re going to be offended by being referred to as such.


  • #6095
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,478 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    NIAC Fanboy wrote: »
    Where in that article does it say the chief medical officer in Germany is actively out in the media discouraging play dates?

    Maybe the Germans are better at following instructions?


  • #6096
    NIAC Fanboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    So don't open up society until we have a critical mass or allow those vaccinated to live some form of a normal life? I don't see why we wouldn't allow those who are vaccinated to live a life somewhat more free. I won't be vaccinated for a long time but I won't begrudge those who are or feel that they should wait for me to join the party before they have a drink.

    How are we supposed to open pubs for vaccinated when a lot of the bar staff would be unvaccinated?

    Who do you think is going to be inspecting vaccine accreditation outside a nightclub, the bouncer?

    Don't insult the rest of us with your nonsense, the rest of us are miles above the quality of your posting and your "simplistic" notions.


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  • #6097
    NIAC Fanboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    Lumen wrote: »
    Maybe the Germans are better at following instructions?

    No link then. Thought so.


  • #6098
    NIAC Fanboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    Faugheen wrote: »
    No, you’re just a compulsive liar. Maybe you shouldn’t lie so much if you’re going to be offended by being referred to as such.



    NPHET dumbed down the report. Fact.

    Maybe start debating what people say instead of dismissing everything you dont like by childishly attacking other peoples views as "compulsive liars" the whole time.


  • #6099
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    NIAC Fanboy wrote: »
    NPHET dumbed down the report. Fact.

    Maybe start debating what people say instead of dismissing everything you dont like by childishly attacking other peoples views as "compulsive liars" the whole time.

    They didn’t dumb down anything. They spoke in facts.

    Those same observations were made on this very forum before Ronan Glynn said anything, because anybody who has the slightest clue about the inadequate contact tracing system can come to that same conclusion.

    And you don’t have ‘an opposing view’, you make false statements. Your median age one yesterday is just the tip of the iceberg.

    You also made clear that you don’t care about the facts. You demanded that trends of deaths be spoken about. When you were told this is already done and how you can find this out, you said you weren’t interested.

    I’m not opposing your view, you’re being called out on your continuous bull**** since you ‘registered for the first time’.


  • #6100
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,366 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Faugheen wrote: »
    They didn’t dumb down anything. They spoke in facts.

    Those same observations were made on this very forum before Ronan Glynn said anything, because anybody who has the slightest clue about the inadequate contact tracing system can come to that same conclusion.

    And you don’t have ‘an opposing view’, you make false statements. Your median age one yesterday is just the tip of the iceberg.

    You also made clear that you don’t care about the facts. You demanded that trends of deaths be spoken about. When you were told this is already done and how you can find this out, you said you weren’t interested.

    I’m not opposing your view, you’re being called out on your continuous bull**** since you ‘registered for the first time’.

    Threads in bits.

    They aren't even pretending to be connected to reality anymore.


  • #6101
    NIAC Fanboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Threads in bits.

    They aren't even pretending to be connected to reality anymore.

    It's those pesky flat earthers


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  • #6102
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Hospitals now at 189 with 47 in ICU, lowest since mid-December.


  • #6103
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,079 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Hospitals now at 189 with 47 in ICU, lowest since mid-December.

    Wow . Cases really not translating into hospitalisations like before


  • #6104
    Ten of Swords
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,491 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    NIAC Fanboy do not post in this thread again

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  • #6105
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Wow . Cases really not translating into hospitalisations like before
    It's what we saw up until December last year. Once you keep the more at risk out of the firing line, it's far less of a public health issue.


  • #6106
    Sobit1964
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Wow . Cases really not translating into hospitalisations like before

    Fantastic point. Needs to be highlighted more.


  • #6107
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    Fantastic point. Needs to be highlighted more.
    No, there's a 4th surge coming, maybe, probably, I think!


  • #6108
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    NIAC Fanboy wrote: »
    How are we supposed to open pubs for vaccinated when a lot of the bar staff would be unvaccinated?

    Who do you think is going to be inspecting vaccine accreditation outside a nightclub, the bouncer?

    Don't insult the rest of us with your nonsense, the rest of us are miles above the quality of your posting and your "simplistic" notions.

    Why do you immediately jump to the idea of pubs?


  • #6109
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,079 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It's what we saw up until December last year. Once you keep the more at risk out of the firing line, it's far less of a public health issue.

    Agreed think we all knew this would probably happen with the vaccine rollout but still good to see it come to fruition .

    Our modelling hasn't changed though?

    Seems like it should pretty soon


  • #6110
    GooglePlus
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    prunudo wrote: »
    Really, so given that we have the majority of the vulnerable vaccinated, you will be happy to live in a two teir society, where vaccinated people can go for a pint but healthy people who generally aren't seriously affected if they contract covid must stay locked down.

    Not only that, but your ability to enjoy other freedoms is dependent on pharmaceutical companies being true to their word and actually delivering what they promise. A case of you might get a vaccine in June, but sure we cant say so we'll get back to you. All the while hospital numbers are falling and completely manageable.

    What do you suggest, we impose restrictions on everyone until we reach sufficient vaccination levels to allow a full opening? So tell those who are no longer at risk to remain under full restriction, even when it would be completely safe for them to go on holiday (many countries opening up to vaccinated tourism). You can't have your pie until I get mine?


  • #6111
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Agreed think we all knew this would probably happen with the vaccine rollout but still good to see it come to fruition .

    Our modelling hasn't changed though?

    Seems like it should pretty soon
    I wouldn't fault the modelling, even if it didn't see Christmas coming and has been way off at other times. In its favour it is continually adjusted and still serves us as a decent rough estimate.


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  • #6112
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,079 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Also it's really showing the smaller the country the quicker the vaccine rollout helps . I think we have a big advantage being a population of 5m with only a few big cities


  • #6113
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,079 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I wouldn't fault the modelling, even if it didn't see Christmas coming and has been way off at other times. In its favour it is continually adjusted and still serve us as a decent rough estimate.

    Oh don't get me wrong it would be prudent to keep it . However, its pointless when we are still going off pre vaccine data .


  • #6114
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Oh don't get me wrong it would be prudent to keep it . However, its pointless when we are still going off pre vaccine data .
    Until we get to a reasonable number vaccinated that's all we have as a reference.


  • #6115
    LillyIsland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭LillyIsland


    If the population of Ireland is 4.9 million and 4,800 people have died from covid, am I right in saying the death rate is 0.0009% ?


  • #6116
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,030 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    So tell those who are no longer at risk to remain under full restriction, even when it would be completely safe for them to go on holiday
    Isn't that what we have been doing for over a year now?

    I completely agree then, all those people not at risk should be allowed to get out and live their lives.


  • #6117
    GooglePlus
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    LillyIsland wrote: »
    If the population of Ireland is 4.9 million and 4,800 people have died from covid, am I right in saying the death rate is 0.0009% ?

    No, you're assuming that 4.9 million people have caught it.


  • #6118
    LillyIsland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭LillyIsland


    No but what I'm saying is 0.0009% of the population have passed away from covid... Is that correct?


  • #6119
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Isn't that what we have been doing for over a year now?

    I completely agree then, all those people not at risk should be allowed to get out and live their lives.

    As well as not a risk to others. There's a reason why countries don't want unvaccinated arriving in. Even Israel, who has most vaccinated as far as I know, won't allow you in without a vaccine. Even at such high levels of vaccination, they're still only allowing 20 to meet indoors, and still have limitations on stadiums etc.


  • #6120
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    LillyIsland wrote: »
    If the population of Ireland is 4.9 million and 4,800 people have died from covid, am I right in saying the death rate is 0.0009% ?

    No, it's 0.1% and that was with restrictive measures.


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  • #6121
    eeepaulo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    LillyIsland wrote: »
    No but what I'm saying is 0.0009% of the population have passed away from covid... Is that correct?

    No that's wrong as well covid deaths as a percentage of population is about 1/1000 or 0.1%


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