Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

JPup wrote: »

The obvious potential change to me seems to be around gender. At the moment the restriction is on anyone under 60. But my understanding is that the risk is much higher for women. So maybe men under 60 will eventually be allowed use it again.

That's not clear. The higher incidence in women may be because many of the recipients were health care workers who are mainly female.

PTH2009 wrote: »

Bye bye summer

We're in a worse position with the vaccines than we were without them

The mental gymnastics involved in constantly taking in simple information, transforming it into some sort of weird negativity or outright lie just to suit your agenda must be absolutely exhausting!

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

Surely they’d have to do away with that one! Like the 2nd dose is only a booster to lengthen immunity isn’t it- it barely brings up the efficacy- maybe 5%?
It’ll be August otherwise, actually maybe even more now if they’re advising the 16wk instead of 12wk gap between doses

I hope so otherwise no one will want AZ

jvoom500 wrote: »

(Just to clarify, I am a front line worker albeit in an admin role).

I'm always puzzled by this. Surely front line workers are those working on the front line dealing with patients who have or may potentially have covid. I don't understand how the HSE seem to have decided that anyone connected to HSE who have no patient role are front line. The Guards, Teachers and SNAs out there are more front line than many given this title by HSE. And I would see Guards etc mainly as essential workers rather than Front line too.

muckisluck wrote: »

I'm always puzzled by this. Surely front line workers are those working on the front line dealing with patients who have or may potentially have covid. I don't understand how the HSE seem to have decided that anyone connected to HSE who have no patient role are front line. The Guards, Teachers and SNAs out there are more front line than many given this title by HSE. And I would see Guards etc mainly as essential workers rather than Front line too.

The HSE went for speed over accuracy. Rather than determine who's what they just aimed to vaccinate anyone who self identified that was on their payroll. Individually validating each individual would be a mess.

Admin role could also involved contact with patients. It may also require access to high risk covid environments within a health care setting. It could also be a critical role whereby if the employee was on unscheduled or extended leave due to COVID the operations of the health care teams on the frontline may be adversely affected.

To borrow a war analogy. The front is rarely just the front.

the 16 week wait for full vaccination would put me off az far more than the potential clotting issues.

Hitchens wrote: »

Where is Tony?

His wife died, so on leave.

I cant be arsed reading the last 10+ pages. Can someone tell me was there much of substance other than J&J is pausing for review?

Miike wrote: »

I cant be arsed reading the last 10+ pages. Can someone tell me was there much of substance other than J&J is pausing for review?

Not really.
However, it may interest to you know that if you change your posts per page setting you'd have less pages to read.

I felt the need to make this positive post seeing how the thread has been going the last couple of days........

My aunt and uncle, both in their early 70s, got their first dose of the Pfizer vaccine today....great relief!!

On a side note, is there any update on how the housebound vaccinations are progressing? I know an update was provided in the Dáil a couple of weeks ago saying they had approx 600/1800 done. I have a relative that's 96 who is housebound and awaiting it. I know and understand the reasons why but just wondering was there anything recent on it

Update on this week.

All appointments cancelled for AZ. Some clinics will be in a position to vaccinate over 60s with AZ and will make contact on an individual basis

https://twitter.com/HSELive/status/1382012752546369537?s=19

Interestingly, it was Jansen themselves who suspended the J & J vaccine in Europe, 'not' the EU......the Commission say this move was 'unexpected'.

How protected is someone off the first shot of az considering the potential 16 week wait for the 2nd jab?

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Also very interesting that the FDA director referenced the pause being carried out to allow for the issuing of clinical advice around treatment if it occurred. Interesting that they specially mention what not to use for treatment, heparin based anticoagulants.

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1381983910893137927?s=19

That is due to the similarity between CVST and heparin induced thrombocytopenia .
They want to keep some clarity as to the cause and not exacerbate any reaction .

3mom4 wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone knows as I can't seem to find the info anywhere. Are GPs finishing the vaccinations for the over 70s with Pfizer before starting on cohort 4 now?

Also what happens if your GP does not opt-in to vaccinating cohort 4?

This is what the HSE is most likely working on. I’d assume that the MVCs will go to Pfizer do to greater numbers and the GPs get AZ. But it’s a bit of a logistical nightmare.