Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

KrustyUCC · 13-04-2021 04:02PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

There is your gratitude for our "front line heroes" right there.

How do you know they're frontline?

I know plenty in HSE who have got vaccines who are in no way frontline and have been working from home all the time

bucketybuck · 13-04-2021 04:05PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

How do you know they're frontline?

I know plenty in HSE who have got vaccines who are in no way frontline and have been working from home all the time

A reminder, you are moaning because a health care worker got a vaccine but now has an issue with the 2nd dose being delayed through no fault of their own. Just think that through for a second.

begbysback · 13-04-2021 04:07PM

I’m starting to lose faith in mans ability to have compassion for his fellow man

PhilOssophy · 13-04-2021 04:07PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Why in hell would we still be protecting somebody for another country to benefit when there's such a sizeable proportion of our society unvaccinated?

That dose could provide good protection to somebody else

Maybe it'll provide good protection to somebody where he/she's going. The most important thing is to get it into her arm - anything else is splitting hairs.

stephenjmcd · 13-04-2021 04:07PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1381983150537113601?s=21

Also very interesting that the FDA director referenced the pause being carried out to allow for the issuing of clinical advice around treatment if it occurred. Interesting that they specially mention what not to use for treatment, heparin based anticoagulants.

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1381983910893137927?s=19

KrustyUCC · 13-04-2021 04:09PM

rm212 wrote: »

Christ almighty... they are likely a citizen of Ireland for god sake, it doesn't matter if they are leaving the country... in fact it doesn't even matter what country they are a citizen of - they are a human. They are currently here in Ireland and they're just as entitled to get the protection of a vaccine as anyone else.

You think vaccinating someone who has been working in healthcare in our country shouldn't be given a vaccine just because they're emigrating?

That person is wanting to change vaccinating schedule to ensure they are vaccinated before going off in June

it worth a chance for them but that doesn't sit well with me when we have so many unvaccinated

I have no doubt that poster will probably get the vaccine before they go but i'd prefer to see it used on somebody else for their first dose instead

I don't' care where they're from

Yes they were perfectly entitled to the first dose and also would be entitled to a second dose before yesterday

That advice might also change before June

PhilOssophy · 13-04-2021 04:10PM

If they are a healthcare worker, surely they can ask with their employer about getting it sooner?

eoinbn · 13-04-2021 04:11PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Interesting : that might suggest the start to the EU rollout will only be slightly delayed.

The delay is not the issue - it wasn't as if we were going to get a lot from J&J in the short term. The problem is what happens after that. Any age restriction basically makes the vaccine null and void as by the time we get it in decent quantities we will be vaccinating the under 50s.

rm212 · 13-04-2021 04:13PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

That person is wanting to change vaccinating schedule to ensure they are vaccinated before going off in June

it worth a chance for them but that doesn't sit well with me when we have so many unvaccinated

I have no doubt that poster will probably get the vaccine before they go but i'd prefer to see it used on somebody else for their first dose instead

I don't' care where they're from

Yes they were perfectly entitled to the first dose and also would be entitled to a second dose before yesterday

That advice might also change before June

No, they aren't. They are wanting to stick to the ORIGINALLY GIVEN schedule to ensure they complete both of their doses of the vaccine course which they have started. If they had known about the 16 week gap before the first dose, I am sure they would have refused, as they knew they were leaving. But that is not what happened.

They aren't 'chancing their arm' or trying to steal someone else's vaccine like you seem to be trying to suggest, they are just trying to stick with the originally advertised regimen which was given to them when they got their first shot.

biko · 13-04-2021 04:16PM

So AZ and JJ are now both paused for blood clots yeah?
Any others?

astrofool · 13-04-2021 04:17PM

biko wrote: »

So AZ and JJ are now both paused for blood clots yeah?
Any others?

nop

josip · 13-04-2021 04:19PM

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

There’s no way it will be restricted here based on those stats. I’m hopeful the AZ announcement yesterday won’t have too much of an impact on our vaccination rates.

Limit J&J to 50+ and crack on with Pfizer for 49-

josip · 13-04-2021 04:21PM

Gael23 wrote: »

We’re screwed if J&J is suspended here

No we're not, although we would be delayed a couple of months.
Pfizer still represents the majority of our Q2 doses.

jvoom500 · 13-04-2021 04:22PM

Thanks for the input everyone! (Just to clarify, I am a front line worker albeit in an admin role). Of course I'd like to be fully vaccinated for my own sake before emigrating but I also thought there may be a procedure in place to ensure the HSE finished any vaccinations they started.

As one of the posters said above, it could be a completely different story in a few weeks so I'll sit tight and wait and see!

Russman · 13-04-2021 04:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

NPHET licking their lips, anything to keep them relevant and the payday accumulating. Between AZ and J&J meeting unwarranted scepticism, we're losing weeks if not months of our summer. Depressing beyond measure.

Seriously ?? Like wtf ?
You think the CMO stops collecting his salary when COVID goes away ?

Le Bruise · 13-04-2021 04:27PM

The J&J pause seems to be nothing to worry about (fingers crossed) and the delay should be minor...it's just the timing of it with the AZ news that is less than ideal!

13-04-2021 04:28PM

josip wrote: »

Limit J&J to 50+ and crack on with Pfizer for 49-

The under 42's i think

rm212 · 13-04-2021 04:28PM

Russman wrote: »

Seriously ?? Like wtf ?
You think the CMO stops collecting his salary when COVID goes away ?

Didn't you know? Tony and Ronan actually get paid by the number of daily cases reported.

josip · 13-04-2021 04:29PM

Necro wrote: »

Threads merged

Am I the only one who gets apprehensive about future posting activity when I see this ?

Cork2021 · 13-04-2021 04:30PM

josip wrote: »

Limit J&J to 50+ and crack on with Pfizer for 49-

I’d agree with something along those lines but it would have to coincide with the reopening of the economy as the risk of death or serious illness is vastly decreased! As the medically vulnerable will now get moderna or Pfizer we’ll also have better protection for them.

stephenjmcd · 13-04-2021 04:30PM

Le Bruise wrote: »

The J&J pause seems to be nothing to worry about (fingers crossed) and the delay should be minor...it's just the timing of it with the AZ news that is less than ideal!

The FDA press conference was quite reassuring and very much straight to the point to be honest.

They very much so put the emphasis on the pause being needed so that the right advice is compiled and given to clinicians in the event that they come across one of these rare cases. Was refreshing to hear them say they only expected it to last a matter of days

stephenjmcd · 13-04-2021 04:31PM

josip wrote: »

Am I the only one who gets apprehensive about future posting activity when I see this ?

Since last night absolutely

political analyst · 13-04-2021 04:31PM

Given that the AZ vaccine is being limited to people over 60 and that the vaccination of most people under 60 is a long way away, why was it necessary to cancel appointments that were scheduled for today?

iamwhoiam · 13-04-2021 04:31PM

If they roll out a vaccine passport I can understand the 60-70 group being a tad annoyed they must wait 3 months to be fully vaccinated

iamwhoiam · 13-04-2021 04:33PM

political analyst wrote: »

Given that the AZ vaccine is being limited to people over 60 and that the vaccination of most people under 60 is a long way away, why was it necessary to cancel appointments that were scheduled for today?

They were Cohort 4 I imagine , so very high risk group

nibtrix · 13-04-2021 04:33PM

political analyst wrote: »

Given that the AZ vaccine is being limited to people over 60 and that the vaccination of most people under 60 is a long way away, why was it necessary to cancel appointments that were scheduled for today?

Because many of today’s AZ vaccinations were for cohort 4 who could be any age. They needed time to reschedule and split them between over and under 60s

Le Bruise · 13-04-2021 04:36PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The FDA press conference was quite reassuring and very much straight to the point to be honest.

They very much so put the emphasis on the pause being needed so that the right advice is compiled and given to clinicians in the event that they come across one of these rare cases. Was refreshing to hear them say they only expected it to last a matter of days

Cheers, I only saw the tweeted headlines from the conference and they seemed pretty positive alright. I was just thinking of the 'vaccines are the devil' crew who will take both the AZ and J&J stories and blow them out of proportion.

Strazdas · 13-04-2021 04:43PM

Ronan Glynn suggested today to the Dáil committee that the current recommendations on AZ could change and they are not set in stone i.e. it's an evolving process and the advice could change again (age cohorts etc).

JPup · 13-04-2021 04:57PM

The obvious potential change to me seems to be around gender. At the moment the restriction is on anyone under 60. But my understanding is that the risk is much higher for women. So maybe men under 60 will eventually be allowed use it again.

GeorgeBailey · 13-04-2021 04:58PM

JPup wrote: »

The obvious potential change to me seems to be around gender. At the moment the restriction is on anyone under 60. But my understanding is that the risk is much higher for women. So maybe men under 60 will eventually be allowed use it again.

On the radio yesterday Luke O'Neill was saying they've actually ruled out gender as a contributing factor.

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