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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #5882
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    aidoh wrote: »
    Sounds like only you've been whipped into a frenzy mo chara.

    Again, why are you calling me out instead of the poster posting blatant misinformation and painting it as a fact.

    That post was a ‘look at this absolute disgrace’ and painted it as something it wasn’t.

    Is it ok to do that, in your opinion?


  • #5883
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Otherwise is it possible to still hit 80% first doses by end of June with the decision yesterday?

    He says June but we all know he means July or August.


  • #5884
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Is this is a good thing?

    Surely if there are risks reported with a vaccine, it is good practice to pause while they are investigated fully.

    It absolutely is a good thing. I've managed to get slot for Thursday - 2nd jab July 1st - so booking my flight to London now


  • #5885
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So Glynn is basically saying that IF we can get one dose into 80% of the population, then he HOPES that we can have a “greater level of reopening “.

    Anyone’s guess what he means by that but it sure doesn’t sound like normality.


  • #5886
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It absolutely is a good thing. I've managed to get slot for Thursday - 2nd jab July 1st - so booking my flight to London now

    Do you mind me asking what group you are in ?


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  • #5887
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Do you mind me asking what group you are in ?

    I'm 45. It's all age based (being done in London - am still registered with a practice there, and have an NHS number)


  • #5888
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So Glynn is basically saying that IF we can get one dose into 80% of the population, then he HOPES that we can have a “greater level of reopening “.

    Anyone’s guess what he means by that but it sure doesn’t sound like normality.

    All over 16+ could be vaccinated and Nphet wont want things to open up. Then the message will be 25% of our population are under 16. We cant have herd immunity. Lockdown of some form must continue.

    This isnt going to end this year. At best we might get out door activities and inter county travel for 6-8 weeks in the summer.


  • #5889
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I'm 45. It's all age based (being done in London - am still registered with a practice there, and have an NHS number)

    Thank you . I have family in London so thats good to hear


  • #5890
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    landofthetree wrote: »
    All over 16+ could be vaccinated and Nphet wont want things to open up. Then the message will be 25% of our population are under 16. We cant have herd immunity. Lockdown of some form must continue.

    This isnt going to end this year. At best we might get out door activities and inter county travel for 6-8 weeks in the summer.

    And if that did happen, then people would still blame NPHET instead of the actual decision makers.


  • #5891
    Corholio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I'm 45. It's all age based (being done in London - am still registered with a practice there, and have an NHS number)

    Out of interest, would this clear the travel fine? I presume it being a medical appointment and all?


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  • #5892
    zebastein
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭zebastein


    Do you think we can track properly how many people are vaccinated in Ireland?

    We can know how many vaccines were given in Ireland , but what will be the part of people that will get a vaccine somewhere else ?
    There are people who manage to get a shot early in Northern Ireland or England, people coming from Dubai or Israel who are already vaccinated (as seen in the MHQ court cases), and the 500k people living in Ireland that have another nationality and that may get the shot in their country later in the year.

    Maybe with 3millions vaccine given in Ireland we will actually have 3.5millions people vaccinated. Or do you reckon that there is not a big difference in numbers ?


  • #5893
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭Polar101


    zebastein wrote: »

    Maybe with 3millions vaccine given in Ireland we will actually have 3.5millions people vaccinated. Or do you reckon that there is not a big difference in numbers ?

    I doubt hundreds of thousands of people will fly somewhere else for a vaccine. The only country where people would realistically head to is the UK, but even if a few thousand get their vaccine there, it's not going to make a huge difference. The EU is going to finish vaccinations at more or less the same pace, so vaccine tourism inside the EU won't be very popular.


  • #5894
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    zebastein wrote: »
    Do you think we can track properly how many people are vaccinated in Ireland?

    I find it interesting that Glynn is talking about getting 80% vaccinated before thinking about maybe suggesting possibly letting people maybe live their lives.

    Why is number of people vaccinated the key metric and not the number of people actually dying?

    I guess we can look forward to another summer where deaths are zero but these cowardly ****s still won't let society breathe.


  • #5895
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    “I hope we can shortly move away from the focus, spotlight and the front of the newspapers. None of us want that contrary to what public opinion says.”

    Ronan Glynn clearly reads boards and Twitter so. How people can genuinely think they want all of this is absolutely mental.


  • #5896
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Faugheen wrote: »
    “I hope we can shortly move away from the focus, spotlight and the front of the newspapers. None of us want that contrary to what public opinion says.”

    Ronan Glynn clearly reads boards and Twitter so. How people can genuinely think they want all of this is absolutely mental.

    Must have been some other Ronan Glynn live on TV a few nights ago.


  • #5897
    [Deleted User]
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    “I hope we can shortly move away from the focus, spotlight and the front of the newspapers. None of us want that contrary to what public opinion says.”

    Ronan Glynn clearly reads boards and Twitter so. How people can genuinely think they want all of this is absolutely mental.

    They can say no to radio interviews and appearances on the late late.


  • #5898
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    https://twitter.com/RTENewsAtOne/status/1381949962951491586?s=20


    Why is the deputy CMO the person communicating that there will be a plan?

    Where is the Taoiseach/MoH?


  • #5899
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Faugheen wrote: »
    “I hope we can shortly move away from the focus, spotlight and the front of the newspapers. None of us want that contrary to what public opinion says.”

    Ronan Glynn clearly reads boards and Twitter so. How people can genuinely think they want all of this is absolutely mental.

    and yet you're reading and posting on said boards forum..you're a veritable yang/yang kind poster alright, "people" being the dullards and bottom feeders eh!


  • #5900
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,853 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Stheno wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RTENewsAtOne/status/1381949962951491586?s=20


    Why is the deputy CMO the person communicating that there will be a plan?

    Where is the Taoiseach/MoH?

    And yet some posters will screech that the restrictions are nothing to do with NPHET.


  • #5901
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Stheno wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RTENewsAtOne/status/1381949962951491586?s=20


    Why is the deputy CMO the person communicating that there will be a plan?

    Where is the Taoiseach/MoH?






    There is no official driver of the clown bus.


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  • #5902
    shamco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭shamco


    robbiezero wrote: »
    And yet some posters will screech that the restrictions are nothing to do with NPHET.

    Well at least we know who is in charge. What a useless government we have?. I thought Haughey, Bertie and Cowen were bad but MM takes the biscuit he seems to have gone into hiding.


  • #5903
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Stheno wrote: »
    Why is the deputy CMO the person communicating that there will be a plan?

    Where is the Taoiseach/MoH?
    It's pretty shocking. The whole week has been shocking, and even the way TDs are asking questions is shocking.

    NPHET advise and have a difficult job to do which they are doing well. Government decides, and take into account wider considerations. Instead the Government is nowhere, and the MoH seems completely tangled up in the distraction of MHQ.


  • #5904
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    They can say no to radio interviews and appearances on the late late.

    They can, then what?

    The Health Minister doesn’t know his arse from his elbow. The government try to be diplomatic rather than honest. Throw in Ronan Glynn and NPHET not communicating then you will have the same contrarians here demanding that they explain their actions.

    Ronan Glynn is the only one giving any communications when he shouldn’t have to. He’s asked multiple times to explain his reasons for NPHETs recommendations and because the government point to them, the focus and pressure is on them to explain.

    It goes back to what I have been saying for a long time. So many people are being taken as fools by the government.


  • #5905
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    rusty cole wrote: »
    and yet you're reading and posting on said boards forum..you're a veritable yang/yang kind poster alright, "people" being the dullards and bottom feeders eh!

    You have a real habit of making up terms and attributing them to people who haven’t said them.


  • #5906
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    https://twitter.com/mariatad/status/1381962180199780356


  • #5907
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    robbiezero wrote: »
    And yet some posters will screech that the restrictions are nothing to do with NPHET.
    Who "screeches" this?

    I think you'll find the contention is that NPHET are not in charge. And they're not. The buck stops with Michael Martin and Stephen Donnelly.

    Unfortunately the latter is a complete fraud, more concerned with tweets and likes than actually knowing anything about his job and doing it.

    Throughout this pandemic, NPHET have produced their recommendations; their plan on what direction restrictions should take.

    They don't implement that plan. The government do. And they don't have to follow NPHET's advice, as we have seen continually. And that hasn't changed.


  • #5908
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    seamus wrote: »
    Who "screeches" this?

    I think you'll find the contention is that NPHET are not in charge. And they're not. The buck stops with Michael Martin and Stephen Donnelly.

    Unfortunately the latter is a complete fraud, more concerned with tweets and likes than actually knowing anything about his job and doing it.

    Throughout this pandemic, NPHET have produced their recommendations; their plan on what direction restrictions should take.

    They don't implement that plan. The government do. And they don't have to follow NPHET's advice, as we have seen continually. And that hasn't changed.

    We are where we are because of NPHET playing politics last Autumn and attempting to strongarm the government into putting their restrictions in place.

    They weren't content to just advise - they demanded that the restrictions they "recommended" be put in place immediately.

    Any reference to the buck stops with the government is just semantics. Its clear as day who is running the show.


  • #5909
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Eod100 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/mariatad/status/1381962180199780356

    The good news keeps on rolling :mad:


  • #5910
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,220 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Eod100 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/mariatad/status/1381962180199780356

    We need a new plan, back to the hospital number/icu metric of opening up society. Less of being tied to vaccinated numbers and being at the mercy of pharmaceutical companies over promising and causing delays in supply..


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  • #5911
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    timmyntc wrote: »
    We are where we are because of NPHET playing politics last Autumn and attempting to strongarm the government into putting their restrictions in place.

    They weren't content to just advise - they demanded that the restrictions they "recommended" be put in place immediately.

    Any reference to the buck stops with the government is just semantics. Its clear as day who is running the show.

    And initially the government said no.

    What you forget is that there was such public outcry over that that there were demands for NPHET to explain. Leo Varadkar slaughtered them on Claire Byrne and only days later, they implemented the measures.

    The government decides. It’s just convenient for them to implement everything and blame the public health advice.

    As was said, this government are a shower of cowards and can’t even show up and take ownership of their own mess. They’ve ignored NPHET for nearly a year and continue to ignore NPHET as we speak.


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