Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

Gumbo · 12-04-2021 08:06PM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

The guide there just mentions the electricity meter cabinet and the distance should be 300mm. Nothing about appliances near the gas meter

Sounds a bit suspicious from GNI, maybe the lads just felt overworked and didn't want to do that house

I tended to agree. But when the RGI issued the letter of non-conformance then he/wasn’t winging it. He/she had to have been dissatisfied with something.

baldshin · 12-04-2021 08:31PM

Looking at the GNI guidelines for gas meter placement, there is no mention of minimum distances from appliances, only minimum distance from the electricity meter, which in my case is fine. I may get a second opinion from my regular gas man.

meercat · 12-04-2021 08:49PM

baldshin wrote: »

Looking at the GNI guidelines for gas meter placement, there is no mention of minimum distances from appliances, only minimum distance from the electricity meter, which in my case is fine. I may get a second opinion from my regular gas man.

Can’t find a specific. Page 9 gives some guidance although not the one quoted by your gas man(has he quoted the actual regulations number)

300mm between gas meter and other services may be the regulation breach he’s implying

https://www.gasnetworks.ie/corporate/information-for-rgi/Guidelines-for-Designers-and-Builders-Domestic-Sites.pdf

The_B_Man · 13-04-2021 09:54PM

Folks, didn't wanna start a new thread for this question. I got a Skoda Superb IV PHEV this year. I applied for the grant for the home charger, which I got. Now I'm googling what actual home charger to get.

I see a lot of chargers, and not sure which are the best. I see skoda have their own charger, which I think is the same as the VW one. I'm sure it'll work for this car but not sure about the next (whenever that will be). I was reading elsewhere about some chargers that say they're 7kw but due to how they're wired with parallel channels (or something), they'll apparently only do 3.5kw on mine. Tbh I haven't a clue how or why that is. Would love if someone could save me the time and energy and point me towards a good charger that will charge mine at full speed, and then if I go full EV in a few years, it'll still work as I need it.

Thanks

eagerv · 13-04-2021 10:17PM

eagerv wrote: »

Our new Zappi2 (installed last March) is throwing up an error:

Tried resetting a number of times, reset trip, etc. No luck. So phoned Myenergi who said they would immediately send out a new machine to be fitted by NMD and he would take old one away with him.

Great service, but a bit worried about why such a new charger would break down so soon..

Back to the Granny chargers for our two cars for the next week or so, at least not too much hassle atm..

Just a follow up post re my Zappi2 replacement as above.

It finally arrived from Myenergi this afternoon after taking seven and a half weeks delayed by customs here in Ireland. The driver would not release parcel unless c.o.d. taxes of €131.78 were paid in cash. Contacted Myenergi who are going to refund me this in full.

Contacted installer, NMD, at about 3pm who said he would change over charge points ASAP, which true to his word was completed at 6pm this evening.:). Fitter was surprised to find a unit inside burnt. He said the new one is slightly different internally to our old 1 year old one. There was no charge for this work, Myenergi will be paying NMD.
Hope the new unit lasts a bit longer than the last one..:rolleyes:

13-04-2021 11:27PM

what this thread needs is a table with the potential chargers that you can buy in Ireland, costs, pros / cons.

Can someone more knowledgeable than I rustle one up?

vectra · 14-04-2021 01:05AM

Deleted User wrote: »

what this thread needs is a table with the potential chargers that you can buy in Ireland, costs, pros / cons.

Can someone more knowledgeable than I rustle one up?

And also make it a sticky.

Patmwgs · 14-04-2021 07:20AM

vectra wrote: »

And also make it a sticky.

If you order from the uk and have a friends address in northern ireland it saves all the brexit bull. Someone else mentioned parcel hotel.

14-04-2021 08:07AM

Patmwgs wrote: »

If you order from the uk and have a friends address in northern ireland it saves all the brexit bull. Someone else mentioned parcel hotel.

I ordered a Wallbox Pulsar Plus from Wallbox through Amazon.co.uk, total cost including import duty was €710, that is €200 less than ordering direct on the Wallbox site.

Alkers · 14-04-2021 11:02PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

For those doing limited milages or regularly parking their cars for 10 to 12 hours overnight wouldn't one of these with a Granny cable be an awful lot less hassle; https://electric-star.com/en/electric-vehicles/greenup-access-16a-reinforced-wall-outlet-legrand/
Yes, charging at 7.2kw or 7.4kw depending on the car would be nicer especially if the grant pays a good proportion of it but I figure I top up my phone and laptop overnight so I can afford to top up my car overnight.
Low speed charging may be less efficient but it certainly is less hassle than trying to negotiate the hurdles of getting a Mode3 charger and will do for most until Mode3 chargers(and cars) become cheaper and more standardised.
Robert Llewellyn was complaining about his Zappi charger not liking the ID4 with blame being put by him on the ID4.

More on the Green 'Up standard (in German)
https://www.professional.legrand.de/fileadmin/downloads/PDF/Legrand/Professional%20Broschueren/W19021_Green_Up_Ladestationen_Broschuere_LoRes.pdf

My granny cable is Green 'Up compatible.

How is it less hassle? Your still going to need to put that plug on its own circuit to be able to give 16a continuous so it's pretty much as much work for a sparks to install and then you can't get the grant either. You can get dumb, non tethered charge points for just a small bit over double the price of that plug.

vectra · 15-04-2021 01:15AM

Alkers wrote: »

How is it less hassle? Your still going to need to put that plug on its own circuit to be able to give 16a continuous so it's pretty much as much work for a sparks to install and then you can't get the grant either. You can get dumb, non tethered charge points for just a small bit over double the price of that plug.

What and where?

Patmwgs · 15-04-2021 06:27AM

I am getting a charger installed shortly and had a look at my electric ireland account and it says i have a three phase 100amp supply, and i know that its just single phase installed in the meter cabinet. Makes no sense. Anyone else with this on their Bill?

Gumbo · 15-04-2021 07:44AM

vectra wrote: »

What and where?

The above plug is priced at €99. It still needs a dedicated wire and CU space so useless, you may as well run the correct cable and RCBO to allow a proper EVSE.

EVOnestop in the uk sell the QUBEV 32a/7kw charger. I had it delivered for €231 in January.

slave1 · 15-04-2021 09:00AM

Half thinking of moving my charge point, cable now buried, can someone remind me the size required for 32a, can't for the life of me remember was it 6 or 8 with say 9m run

Gumbo · 15-04-2021 09:45AM

slave1 wrote: »

Half thinking of moving my charge point, cable now buried, can someone remind me the size required for 32a, can't for the life of me remember was it 6 or 8 with say 9m run

6Sq. Generally speaking.
But there may be a calculation based on length of run etc ( saying this as I’m not a REC, so don’t want you to think I’m giving expert advice).

Patmwgs · 15-04-2021 10:23AM

slave1 wrote: »

Half thinking of moving my charge point, cable now buried, can someone remind me the size required for 32a, can't for the life of me remember was it 6 or 8 with say 9m run

www.cable-ratings.co.uk

vectra · 15-04-2021 10:27AM

Gumbo wrote: »

The above plug is priced at €99. It still needs a dedicated wire and CU space so useless, you may as well run the correct cable and RCBO to allow a proper EVSE.

EVOnestop in the uk sell the QUBEV 32a/7kw charger. I had it delivered for €231 in January.

was that including any duties?
Seems like a decent price.

Gumbo · 15-04-2021 10:29AM

vectra wrote: »

was that including any duties?
Seems like a decent price.

That was to the door. I bought it through their Amazon page.

vectra · 15-04-2021 10:35AM

Gumbo wrote: »

That was to the door. I bought it through their Amazon page.

Sounds good,
So just get a registered electrician to install.
Can the grant still be applied for if I get passed for one?

Ak_87 · 15-04-2021 11:24AM

HI

I was talking to an electrician recently, who said that they are now allowed connect ev charger to the meter box which for me is a lot more convenient.

I cant find any information on this change.

Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks

15-04-2021 11:32AM

Deleted User wrote: »

what this thread needs is a table with the potential chargers that you can buy in Ireland, costs, pros / cons.

Can someone more knowledgeable than I rustle one up?

Gumbo wrote: »

The above plug is priced at €99. It still needs a dedicated wire and CU space so useless, you may as well run the correct cable and RCBO to allow a proper EVSE.

EVOnestop in the uk sell the QUBEV 32a/7kw charger. I had it delivered for €231 in January.

Good man Gumbo - willing to start us off - please fill in anything you think relevant for hte QUBEV @ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zZxJRf4aVJVPjpQNFGUK3gO2WD5W1z9N8l4IuJ1TX8Y/edit?usp=sharing

Gumbo · 15-04-2021 02:26PM

vectra wrote: »

Sounds good,
So just get a registered electrician to install.
Can the grant still be applied for if I get passed for one?

Yep.
My dads total outlay was €231 for the charger, installation, certification and an outdoor socket on the other side of the house.

Gumbo · 15-04-2021 02:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Good man Gumbo - willing to start us off - please fill in anything you think relevant for hte QUBEV @ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zZxJRf4aVJVPjpQNFGUK3gO2WD5W1z9N8l4IuJ1TX8Y/edit?usp=sharing

I’ll attempt it when back on the PC.
Just one thing, you have an 11kw option. There won’t be many, if any at all for home chargers as that requires 3 phase power connection.

WayneEnterprise · 15-04-2021 02:48PM

Ak_87 wrote: »

HI

I was talking to an electrician recently, who said that they are now allowed connect ev charger to the meter box which for me is a lot more convenient.

I cant find any information on this change.

Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks

https://safeelectric.ie/contractors/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/03/MarchNewsletterSafeElecFinal-1.pdf

Gumbo · 15-04-2021 02:55PM

Ak_87 wrote: »

HI

I was talking to an electrician recently, who said that they are now allowed connect ev charger to the meter box which for me is a lot more convenient.

I cant find any information on this change.

Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks

Yep. As above. Only available with the correct precautions since March 2021 and should be last resort too.

15-04-2021 04:19PM

Gumbo wrote: »

I’ll attempt it when back on the PC.
Just one thing, you have an 11kw option. There won’t be many, if any at all for home chargers as that requires 3 phase power connection.

yeah I just brainfarted a few things onto a sheet to be honest with you - hopefully people will edit / fix forward etc

the_amazing_raisin · 16-04-2021 09:38AM

The guy from Battery Life installed an innovative home charging solution, can't wait to see what a REC makes of this

Jokes aside this could be the only realistic solution for home charging for some folks who don't have designated parking. Assuming of course that it can be done in line with health and safety regs

16-04-2021 09:48AM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

The guy from Battery Life installed an innovative home charging solution, can't wait to see what a REC makes of this

The gardners will have their own views on it as well.
He said he had 2.2v charging. I don't know why he couldn't step it up to 3.7 with a 16amp plug.

Ak_87 · 16-04-2021 09:59AM

Gumbo wrote: »

Yep. As above. Only available with the correct precautions since March 2021 and should be last resort too.

Great thanks very much

Ak_87 · 16-04-2021 10:00AM

WayneEnterprise wrote: »

https://safeelectric.ie/contractors/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/03/MarchNewsletterSafeElecFinal-1.pdf

Great thanks

Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

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