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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #5672
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    394 cases 0 deaths reported


    7-day average in cases 413 it was 488 last Monday.


  • #5673
    shinzon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    Unfortunately its not over yet according to the WHO

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0412/1209227-world-covid/?fbclid=IwAR2PkwaQeyGW-emjGCy40bpWVMBAzA6EheeN8aVviAaWtY-p-FvBvMslBoA
    The Covid-19 pandemic has entered a critical phase as infections increase exponentially despite widespread measures aimed at stopping them, the World Health Organization has warned, with record case numbers in South Asia triggering tough new restrictions.

    The coronavirus has already killed more than 2.9 million people and infected nearly 136 million across the world.

    The WHO's technical lead on Covid-19 Maria Van Kerkhove said: "The trajectory of this pandemic is growing ... exponentially."

    "This is not the situation we want to be in 16 months into a pandemic, when we have proven control measures," she told reporters, adding "we are in a critical point of the pandemic right now".

    India has overtaken Brazil as the country with the second-highest number of infections, after logging more than 168,000 new cases in a single day.

    The recent, rapid increase of infections has taken India's total number of cases to 13.5 million, above Brazil's 13.48 million.

    Experts have warned that huge, mostly maskless and tightly packed crowds at political rallies, mass religious festivals and other public places have fuelled the new wave of cases in India.

    In the Himalayan city of Haridwar, Hindu pilgrims not wearing face coverings squeezed shoulder-to-shoulder on the banks of the Ganges River jostling for a dip as they observed a Kumbh Mela ritual, despite the risk of infection.

    Held once every three years, Kumbh Mela is often labelled the world's largest religious gathering, but the 2021 event has posed a challenge to health officials who are struggling to enforce pandemic safety measures.

    Several regions have tightened curbs on activity while Maharashtra, India's wealthiest state and current epicentre of the country's epidemic, imposed a weekend lockdown and night curfew.

    But the government is desperate to avoid a repeat of last year's nationwide March shutdown - one of the world's toughest - which caused widespread human and economic misery.

    Neighbouring Bangladesh has already resorted to drastic measures, announcing that it will close all offices for eight days, in an attempt to staunch its own spiralling outbreak.

    The South Asian nation of 160 million people will virtually seal itself off, shutting down both international and domestic transportation from Wednesday.

    All stores, except those supplying food, will close.

    Shin


  • #5674
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,468 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And yet Mark Drakeford is saying that mask wearing and social distancing, which he calls 'simple measures', will still be around by the end of the year: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/three-restrictions-mark-drakeford-says-20239664

    When the UK drop it as part of their reopening plan they'll follow suit soon after.

    Now that all depends on if the UK reach the last stage of opening in June, when social limits are all gone.


  • #5675
    PTH2009
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    shinzon wrote: »
    Unfortunately its not over yet according to the WHO

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0412/1209227-world-covid/?fbclid=IwAR2PkwaQeyGW-emjGCy40bpWVMBAzA6EheeN8aVviAaWtY-p-FvBvMslBoA



    Shin

    George Lee and the members of NPHET are salivating at this prospect


  • #5676
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    George Lee and the members of NPHET are salivating at this prospect

    No they fcking aren't. Nobody wants this sh1t to be prolonged.


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  • #5677
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Russman wrote: »
    It’s the UK that’s the outlier though, compared to our peer countries.

    UK has been the outlier since day 1 of the vaccines. Priority to those most likely to die and those who care for them, then work downwards from there.

    Extend AZ doses to 12 weeks get more people protected ASAP, same with Pfizer.

    Peer countries have done the opposite and look at the results.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #5678
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Russman


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Peer countries have done the opposite and look at the results.

    Please explain


  • #5679
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Russman wrote: »
    Please explain

    Really ?

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #5680
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I have tried very hard to be patient and try to see the problems and difficulties . Today took the bloody biscuit and patience slowly running out
    Now the vaccine rollout will be messed up again and people will probably die waiting for their turn .
    Will more die waiting that would die from clots ? Will people die from stress and illness caused by the stress of vaccine delay ?
    And the shambles of hotel quarantine is almost too much to handle now
    My daughter in UK has received four covid rapid tests in the post , allowed out to meet friends and shops open . This because the vaccine rollout was organised , quick and no messing going on .
    I feel so upset today as my husband is due his vaccine on Saturday and we were so pleased and excited but now dreading them saying this will change .
    The messing around with our heads is too much now and causing harmful stress on people
    I give up now being patient


  • #5681
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Briefing later

    https://twitter.com/fergalbowers/status/1381657111445245954?s=21


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  • #5682
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    shinzon wrote: »
    Unfortunately its not over yet according to the WHO

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0412/1209227-world-covid/?fbclid=IwAR2PkwaQeyGW-emjGCy40bpWVMBAzA6EheeN8aVviAaWtY-p-FvBvMslBoA



    Shin

    And get India isn’t on the MHQ list. (I mean I think MHQ is a nonsense, but to have it but not have India on it is even more of a nonsense!)


  • #5683
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Why is Anthony Staines being rolled out on RTÉ once again, without a question in the world re email leaks or Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals which he was involved in sharing to his fellow peers on ISAG.
    Cathríona Perry on Six One with a nice cosy little chat with him, free pass on any sort of misleading information he and his colleagues have stated in the previous 12 months.


  • #5684
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,302 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    George Lee and the members of NPHET are salivating at this prospect

    Would you ever catch yourself on? That's pure tripe.


  • #5685
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I have tried very hard to be patient and try to see the problems and difficulties . Today took the bloody biscuit and patience slowly running out
    Now the vaccine rollout will be messed up again and people will probably die waiting for their turn .
    Will more die waiting that would die from clots ? Will people die from stress and illness caused by the stress of vaccine delay ?
    And the shambles of hotel quarantine is almost too much to handle now
    My daughter in UK has received four covid rapid tests in the post , allowed out to meet friends and shops open . This because the vaccine rollout was organised , quick and no messing going on .
    I feel so upset today as my husband is due his vaccine on Saturday and we were so pleased and excited but now dreading them saying this will change .
    The messing around with our heads is too much now and causing harmful stress on people
    I give up now being patient

    NPHET are so advising that for the next six weeks they would like to see social contacs maintained at the current levels
    There remains a considerable risk that Ireland will experience a further wave of infection if public health restrictions are eased too quickly,” he will tell the committee.

    “A further wave of infection can be substantially mitigated if levels of social contact across the population remain largely unchanged over the next six weeks.”

    The priority must, for the coming weeks, remain on maintaining control over the disease, until vaccination can offer a widespread population level of protection.”

    https://m.independent.ie/news/risk-of-a-fourth-wave-of-covid-19-considerableif-restrictions-are-eased-too-quickly-nphet-to-warn-40305133.html

    Thats the end of May. With the schools back and sports restarting for children I can't see how social contacts will not go up

    And if they are waiting till vaccine rollout is widespread in the population to recommend easing it could be a way off

    What a ****e day


  • #5686
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,468 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Stheno wrote: »
    NPHET are so advising that for the next six weeks they would like to see social contacs maintained at the current levels



    https://m.independent.ie/news/risk-of-a-fourth-wave-of-covid-19-considerableif-restrictions-are-eased-too-quickly-nphet-to-warn-40305133.html

    Thats the end of May. With the schools back and sports restarting for children I can't see how social contacts will not go up

    And if they are waiting till vaccine rollout is widespread in the population to recommend easing it could be a way off

    What a ****e day

    I mean do people expect them to say anything different at this stage? We've had it for a year at this stage.

    We're a few weeks away yet from May but there's no reason what's been outlined for May so far can't happen.


  • #5687
    Stheno
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    I mean do people expect them to say anything different at this stage? We've had it for a year at this stage.

    We're a few weeks away yet from May but there's no reason what's been outlined for May so far can't happen.

    How do you see whats been outline for May being able to happen and not have a rise in social contacts?

    If the govt listen to the NPHET narrative I'd be pessimistic about it tbh


  • #5688
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Stheno wrote: »
    How do you see whats been outline for May being able to happen and not have a rise in social contacts?

    If the govt listen to the NPHET narrative I'd be pessimistic about it tbh
    There is an ongoing message that NPHET will continue to push. I genuinely wonder if anyone is even listening to it any more. From our perspective the only concern is if case rises present a reason for May plans to be reversed.


  • #5689
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    is_that_so wrote: »
    There is an ongoing message that NPHET will continue to push. I genuinely wonder if anyone is even listening to it any more. From our perspective the only concern is if case rises present a reason for May plans to be reversed.

    Do you have any idea of the dates that things will reopen in May?


  • #5690
    RGS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭RGS


    is_that_so wrote: »
    There is an ongoing message that NPHET will continue to push. I genuinely wonder if anyone is even listening to it any more. From our perspective the only concern is if case rises present a reason for May plans to be reversed.

    The problem is the government are listening and wont go against NPHET.

    They really take the positivity out of everything. They must be the most pessimistic bunch of people to ever assemble in one place.

    They really dont see the economic damage their approach is causing as they sit on 6 figure salaries.


  • #5691
    irishguy1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    Do you have any idea of the dates that things will reopen in May?

    I honestly can’t believe it is 2.5 weeks away from May and no mention of anything...They will delay everything until late May again...

    This is becoming RIDICULOUS. I’m actually leaning towards the conspiracy idea of ‘they want to lock us up/control us’.


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  • #5692
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1381673648004734980?s=19

    So high risk under 60 get second dose on schedule, non high risk under sixty extended to 16 weeks for second dose


  • #5693
    Corholio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    The WHO statement is a very general type of statement, it just includes info we already know, cases rising in some EU countries, vaccination levels at different stages etc. The headline of 'it's not over yet' is just obvious right? Nothing substantial, but not that I think that was the intention anyway, just a subtle warning type one they have done throughout.


  • #5694
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    is_that_so wrote: »
    There is an ongoing message that NPHET will continue to push. I genuinely wonder if anyone is even listening to it any more. From our perspective the only concern is if case rises present a reason for May plans to be reversed.

    You mean the message of doom and gloom like the one below from Ronan Glynn?

    https://twitter.com/eoghanymurphy/status/1381660746048806919?s=21

    Oh wait...


  • #5695
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    irishguy1983 wrote: »
    This is becoming RIDICULOUS. I’m actually leaning towards the conspiracy idea of ‘they want to lock us up/control us’.

    You would be very stupid to do this.

    I get the frustration, but you look at Nolan, Glynn etc and tell me they want to keep everyone locked up and under control. They don’t. They’re just as f*cked as the rest of us.


  • #5696
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,709 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    If everyone over 60 remaining is given AZ during Q2 + the 2nd doses for those already after one dose of AZ it should soak up a lot of the supply in that regard.

    Not ideal, but manageable.


  • #5697
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,628 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    So we're down 20% of vaccinations for under 60's.

    Any update on how this affects us going forward?


  • #5698
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,468 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    marno21 wrote: »
    If everyone over 60 remaining is given AZ during Q2 + the 2nd doses for those already after one dose of AZ it should soak up a lot of the supply in that regard.

    Not ideal, but manageable.

    We're banking on them saying no more dose 1 of Pfizer or Moderna for over 60s in that case. I hope they go that way but who knows.

    The issue is going to be logistical now also.

    Can't see how they hit 180-190k this week or next week as there's a significant change involved.

    Maybe I'll eat my words but just can't see it.


  • #5699
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 939 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you're under 60 and not high risk they're extending the AZ interval to 16 weeks... That is not going to go down well with healthcare workers.


  • #5700
    Padkir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭Padkir


    Faugheen wrote: »
    You mean the message of doom and gloom like the one below from Ronan Glynn?

    https://twitter.com/eoghanymurphy/status/1381660746048806919?s=21

    Oh wait...

    Positive commentary is **** all good if they don't back it up with some recommendations for releasing restrictions.


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  • #5701
    Stheno
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    If you're under 60 and not high risk they're extending the AZ interval to 16 weeks... That is not going to go down well with healthcare workers.

    According to Gavin Reilly HCWs are classed as high risk?

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1381677614977400833?s=20


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