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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    alentejo wrote: »
    Well - You can now push back the adult population being vaccinated until the end of October!

    I suspect more people will die of covid that the blood clots associated with AZ

    Unlikely - AZ was only to do 20% of the doses in Q2 - 60-69 year olds alone will take most of them. And in Q3 Pfizer will be ramping further, Moderna will become more available as US nears completion and Curevac and Novavac are coming on stream


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,468 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Sunday - 424 positive swabs, 2.96% positivity on 14,344 tests.
    7 day test positivity is 2.7%.

    Monday - 327 positive swabs, 2.77% positivity on 11,798 tests.
    7 day test positivity is 2.7%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Oh yum, those metrics!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    On top of the above, Saturday's numbers were revised. An extra ~1,000 tests were added to the number, with just 9 positive swabs.

    This brings Saturday's positivity rate from 3.02% to 2.89%.

    Does that matter? Not really, except that we've now had nine consecutive days with positivity below 3%


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,468 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    seamus wrote: »
    On top of the above, Saturday's numbers were revised. An extra ~1,000 tests were added to the number, with just 9 positive swabs.

    This brings Saturday's positivity rate from 3.02% to 2.89%.

    Does that matter? Not really, except that we've now had nine consecutive days with positivity below 3%

    Good stuff Seamus, hadn't spotted that.

    I think these walk up centres are part of the reason the rates are being driven down. Finding cases that might not be found otherwise before they've a chance to cause an outbreak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Good stuff Seamus, hadn't spotted that.

    I think these walk up centres are part of the reason the rates are being driven down. Finding cases that might not be found otherwise before they've a chance to cause an outbreak.


    Let's hope they are here to stay until we're out the other end of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,302 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    they'll run out of that age group reasonably quickly

    The supply of the other vaccines is to be well above that of AZ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    The supply of the other vaccines is to be well above that of AZ.

    true thankfully - but AZ is approx 25% of all supply at least until end of may


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,468 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    The supply of the other vaccines is to be well above that of AZ.

    Yes but AZ isn't an insignificant amount either.

    It'll slow things down along the line somewhere.

    Question now is do they only offer AZ to the 60-69 group and divert supply of Pfizer to those below it & finish off Pfizer dose 2 for over 70s of course.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Russman


    It'll slow things down along the line somewhere.

    Somewhere deep in the bowels of the Department of Health, they're frantically trying to round up volunteers to conduct today's NPHET briefing :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭OwenM


    Amirani wrote: »
    You still have people saying restaurants and gyms are safe and low-risk environments for Covid. So yes, society as a whole doesn't seem to know where the risks are in relation to Covid.

    Maybe follow the science, and it shows overwhelmingly our homes are the most dangerous places, but lets shut everything else anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Yes but AZ isn't an insignificant amount either.

    It'll slow things down along the line somewhere.

    Absolutely

    Indeoendent reporting "The implication of the recommendation means that people in younger age groups - particularly those in their twenties and thirties - may wait longer for a first dose .

    The plan here, based on the original projected supply, was to have 80pc of the adult population given at least one dose by the end of June.

    This could now be pushed out to July if supplies of the other three vaccines do not stretch far enough.

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-to-be-told-to-restrict-astrazeneca-vaccine-to-over-60s-40303877.html

    This decision from NIAC going to have big implications when easing of restrictions is tied to vaccination program

    NIAC twice as cautious as UK

    Only 60-69 years olds can take AZ here whereas UK 30+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭OwenM


    true thankfully - but AZ is approx 25% of all supply at least until end of may

    And AZ was the only one with 12 weeks between doses, so our '1st dose velocity' will take a hit because people will need their 2nd dose about nine weeks earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭alentejo


    There is a large no of people due the 2nd shot of AZ from the start of May, many of whom are under 60. What happens these people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭fits


    alentejo wrote: »
    There is a large no of people due the 2nd shot of AZ from the start of May, many of whom are under 60. What happens these people?

    They will get their second shot as planned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭OwenM


    alentejo wrote: »
    There is a large no of people due the 2nd shot of AZ from the start of May, many of whom are under 60. What happens these people?

    If they queue jumpers if they are under 60, let them take their chances.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Is that confirmed?

    Is the restriction to over 60s even confirmed?

    So far all I've seen is articles saying that this is the expected outcome, but nothing seems to be set in stone.

    Nothing is official yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Great to see the rugby players can pop in and out of the country without quarantine.

    It will give a lift to anyone in quarantine being able to watch the rugby while their parents are dying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ddarcy


    Is that confirmed?

    Is the restriction to over 60s even confirmed?

    So far all I've seen is articles saying that this is the expected outcome, but nothing seems to be set in stone.

    I’d say they are working on that problem. As much as people may not like it, if the NAIC say is unsafe for under 60’s, the government will have issues in requiring the second shot of an unsafe vaccine. Since it’s EUA they’ll really have issues, even if they make a case for the greater good.

    The issue now will be when to get cohort 4 under 60’s in to get Pfizer/Moderna/ J&J. How much time will need to elapse etc for the vaccination. I’m going to guess they kick the decision down the road in hopes that second jab of another vaccine works and approved by the EMA / AZ gets more safety information to allow the second dose be given.

    The government will have major issues if they require the 12 week break and then start you on the 6 week program of another vaccine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    And yet Mark Drakeford is saying that mask wearing and social distancing, which he calls 'simple measures', will still be around by the end of the year: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/three-restrictions-mark-drakeford-says-20239664


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Is there a presser today for case numbers.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,468 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    394 cases 0 deaths reported


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Love a good 0 deaths day.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,709 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    And yet Mark Drakeford is saying that mask wearing and social distancing, which he calls 'simple measures', will still be around by the end of the year: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/three-restrictions-mark-drakeford-says-20239664

    Social distancing makes much of the economy unviable. Reduced capacity at events = unviable. Reduced numbers in pubs restaurants etc = unviable. Severely constrained public transport = no capacity.

    Social distancing is not a simple measure. It’s the main thing that needs to be dropped for any sense of normality to resume


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Russman


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    NIAC twice as cautious as UK

    Only 60-69 years olds can take AZ here whereas UK 30+

    It’s the UK that’s the outlier though, compared to our peer countries.


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