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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #5582
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    mloc123 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/DDemom1/status/1381342797656117261
    Well, at least if they camp up in the field there, we know where they are when it comes time for the J&J rollout


  • #5583
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Robin Wellfare? ummmhh.

    To be fair, she has 4 followers


  • #5584
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    Donnelly used an interesting phrase on Morning Ireland regarding the vaccines - something along the lines of "80% of people will be in a position to be offered the vaccine"

    Up to now I've only heard "offered the vaccine". Is this a watering down of the target? Will they open up the booking portal at the end of June and therefore you are "in a position to be offered"

    Assuming we vaccinate an average of 25k per day for the rest of April, 35k per day in May and 40k per day in June we will reach 80 shots per 100 total or about 55% of people having got at least one shot by the 30th of June.

    To get to 80% of people getting at least one shot we will need to get to 115 shots per 100. We have 79 days until the end of June. To get to 115 per 100 (we are currently at 21 per 100) we will need to vaccinate an average of 42k people per day starting from now. This week the HSE are boasting about vaccinating 190k, that's only an average of 27k. We need to start hitting 300k per week very soon to hit the 80% "offered" a vaccine by the end of June.


  • #5585
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    snotboogie wrote: »
    Assuming we vaccinate an average of 25k per day for the rest of April, 35k per day in May and 40k per day in June we will reach 80 shots per 100 total or about 55% of people having got at least one shot by the 30th of June.

    To get to 80% of people getting at least one shot we will need to get to 115 shots per 100. We have 79 days until the end of June. To get to 115 per 100 (we are currently at 21 per 100) we will need to vaccinate an average of 42k people per day starting from now. This week the HSE are boasting about vaccinating 190k, that's only an average of 27k. We need to start hitting 300k per week very soon to hit the 80% "offered" a vaccine by the end of June.
    Not boasting, anticipating, all based on supplies.


  • #5586
    [Deleted User]
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    Vicxas wrote: »
    Oh Here we go....

    Israel study says SA variant can "bypass" the Pfizer vaccine to a certain extent.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/israeli-study-finds-south-african-variant-can-evade-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-5407089-Apr2021/

    Any information on if any of these individuals had a serious infection?


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  • #5587
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 543 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Oh Here we go....

    Israel study says SA variant can "bypass" the Pfizer vaccine to a certain extent.

    Not quite. As usual the media have taken the worst part of it and left out very important context. There's a thread here from one of the authors of the study that adds clarity. Please read it to the end. It does show reduced efficacy against B.1.351, however this seems to be limited to a window 7-14 days after the second dose. There were no incidents of vaccine breakthrough after this period.

    https://twitter.com/SternLab/status/1380922920734711811?s=20


  • #5588
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Oh Here we go....

    Israel study says SA variant can "bypass" the Pfizer vaccine to a certain extent.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/israeli-study-finds-south-african-variant-can-evade-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-5407089-Apr2021/

    This is disingenuous reporting at its finest - read the thread below - appears to be bad reporting across the entire horizon


    https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1381296783343620100?s=20


  • #5589
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Any information on if any of these individuals had a serious infection?

    It wasn't disclosed in the study as there were so few infections of vaccinees that its statistically meaningless.


  • #5590
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    They had two big outbreaks in BC Canada , one in Whistler and one in Revelstoke ski resorts . They quickly closed both down and within days had an online booking and are vaccinating the whole town this week . Everyone of 18 will be vaccinated very quickly and it nipped in the bud before it spreads . Anyone who is resident or working in the town is eligible .Thats how to do it maybe and pounce on an outbreak straight away


  • #5591
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    They had two big outbreaks in BC Canada , one in Whistler and one in Revelstoke ski resorts . They quickly closed both down and within days had an online booking and are vaccinating the whole town this week . Everyone of 18 will be vaccinated very quickly and it nipped in the bud before it spreads . Anyone who is resident or working in the town is eligible .Thats how to do it maybe and pounce on an outbreak straight away

    I'm not sure how effective that will be - it takes a few weeks for the vaccine immunity to kick in.


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  • #5592
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    I'm not sure how effective that will be - it takes a few weeks for the vaccine immunity to kick in.

    Locked down the slopes , closed all restaurant , closed all facilities and no one allowed out except to shop for a month .I think its the best they could do in the circumstances .

    They were Covid free until the powers that be allowed the slopes to open and people flooded in from all sorts of places . They had the Brazilian variant and needed to stop it spreading


  • #5593
    mightyreds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    They had two big outbreaks in BC Canada , one in Whistler and one in Revelstoke ski resorts . They quickly closed both down and within days had an online booking and are vaccinating the whole town this week . Everyone of 18 will be vaccinated very quickly and it nipped in the bud before it spreads . Anyone who is resident or working in the town is eligible .Thats how to do it maybe and pounce on an outbreak straight away

    One of my friends is in BC working in a ski resort, he tested positive this week along with everyone he works/lives with.


  • #5594
    jams100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭jams100


    Derek Zoolander wrote: »
    This is disingenuous reporting at its finest - read the thread below - appears to be bad reporting across the entire horizon


    https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1381296783343620100?s=20

    Isn't this what people mean when they say fake news?

    I've read online from several "established" media who were basically saying that pfizer vaccine might not work on S.A varient.

    Clearly, none of these news sites do any sort of research, all about getting the headline out as quickly as possible in order to get the "clicks".

    Sad what journalism has become these days.


  • #5595
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    jams100 wrote: »
    Isn't this what people mean when they say fake news?

    I've read online from several "established" media who were basically saying that pfizer vaccine might not work on S.A varient.

    Clearly, none of these news sites do any sort of research, all about getting the headline out as quickly as possible in order to get the "clicks".

    Sad what journalism has become these days.


    I despise that term, but I think it's quite apt for this.


    Journalism is gone to shíte.


  • #5596
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ek motor wrote: »
    It wasn't disclosed in the study as there were so few infections of vaccinees that its statistically meaningless.

    In other words it was an observational study taken out of context to produce clickbait headlines


  • #5597
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Hospitals at 227 this morning, of which 50 are in ICU.

    By this time next week we should be solidly under 200 in hospital and under 50 in ICU.

    These are both key numbers that I think will force Martin to address the schedule for reopening with a greater level of certainty.

    On the 19th they'll announce the vaccine booking system is open. At that stage, "You'll be able to go play sports next Monday, and then we'll see after that", just won't be good enough. People want details now.


  • #5598
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    seamus wrote: »
    Hospitals at 227 this morning, of which 50 are in ICU.

    By this time next week we should be solidly under 200 in hospital and under 50 in ICU.

    These are both key numbers that I think will force Martin to address the schedule for reopening with a greater level of certainty.

    On the 19th they'll announce the vaccine booking system is open. At that stage, "You'll be able to go play sports next Monday, and then we'll see after that", just won't be good enough. People want details now.

    Has that number increased? Could have sworn it was at 209 a few days ago.


  • #5599
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Stephen Donnelly hadn't read a front page story about him this morning before he appeared on a radio interview.

    He's an embarrassment to the government.


  • #5600
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    leahyl wrote: »
    Has that number increased? Could have sworn it was at 209 a few days ago.
    Yeah it was at 208 on Saturday morning. There's always a jump at the weekend because consultants aren't working so there are very few discharges.

    You see discharges at the start of the week, then they tail off towards the end of the week. You're nearly always guaranteed that numbers hit their weekly lows on Friday night and their weekly high on Monday morning.

    So "increased" is a relative measure :)


  • #5601
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Archery could be dangerous to other people.

    Hah, that's a fair point :D


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  • #5602
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    seamus wrote: »
    Hospitals at 227 this morning, of which 50 are in ICU.

    By this time next week we should be solidly under 200 in hospital and under 50 in ICU.

    These are both key numbers that I think will force Martin to address the schedule for reopening with a greater level of certainty.

    On the 19th they'll announce the vaccine booking system is open. At that stage, "You'll be able to go play sports next Monday, and then we'll see after that", just won't be good enough. People want details now.

    Agree on this. Veradkar stating back in January that there would need to be less than 50in ICU for any major easing may come back to haunt them.

    Must go see if I can find a link to that being reported


  • #5603
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Stheno wrote: »
    Agree on this. Veradkar stating back in January that there would need to be less than 50in ICU for any major easing may come back to haunt them.

    Must go see if I can find a link to that being reported

    He said they would need to approach 50 before we start easing restrictions. Numbers are 50 today and coincidentally restrictions are starting to ease from today :)


  • #5604
    muddypuppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭muddypuppy


    seamus wrote: »
    Hospitals at 227 this morning, of which 50 are in ICU.

    By this time next week we should be solidly under 200 in hospital and under 50 in ICU.

    These are both key numbers that I think will force Martin to address the schedule for reopening with a greater level of certainty.

    On the 19th they'll announce the vaccine booking system is open. At that stage, "You'll be able to go play sports next Monday, and then we'll see after that", just won't be good enough. People want details now.

    Really wish I could share your optimism. All you wrote make tons of sense, but at this point in my mind the government already has at least a rough timeline for reopening (and they had it since february), and bar some unexpected fifth wave (since we're already past the fourth) they'll stick to those dates.


  • #5605
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Oh Here we go....

    Israel study says SA variant can "bypass" the Pfizer vaccine to a certain extent.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/israeli-study-finds-south-african-variant-can-evade-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-5407089-Apr2021/


    I hate when people get all technical and go into medical speak and use phrases like" to a certain extent." So precise.


  • #5606
    kleiner feigling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭kleiner feigling


    I'd urge everyone here to please write to your TDs ahead of the June vote to extend Part 3 of the Health Act (which facilitated the draconian rules around business closures, fines, and the 2k, 5k restrictions etc.)

    The site below gives TD contact details and sample letters you can use/amend as you see fit.
    I for one do not want to see these government powers extended any further.
    We are all well aware of where the risks lie and how to protect ourselves at this stage, and it is time for businesses to be allowed to reopen safely.

    https://ichr.ie/proposed-extension-of-part-3-of-the-health/


  • #5607
    optogirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭optogirl


    kleiner feigling wrote: »
    I'd urge everyone here to please write to your TDs ahead of the June vote to extend Part 3 of the Health Act (which facilitated the draconian rules around business closures, fines, and the 2k, 5k restrictions etc.)

    The site below gives TD contact details and sample letters you can use/amend as you see fit.
    I for one do not want to see these government powers extended any further.
    We are all well aware of where the risks lie and how to protect ourselves at this stage, and it is time for businesses to be allowed to reopen safely.

    https://ichr.ie/proposed-extension-of-part-3-of-the-health/

    No thanks. I think as frustrating & slow as this whole thing has been, the government are doing their best in extreme circumstances. Of course they won't and haven't got everything right but countless lives have been saved and this is not something that any government could have adequately prepared for.


  • #5608
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,092 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    kleiner feigling wrote: »
    I'd urge everyone here to please write to your TDs ahead of the June vote to extend Part 3 of the Health Act (which facilitated the draconian rules around business closures, fines, and the 2k, 5k restrictions etc.)

    The site below gives TD contact details and sample letters you can use/amend as you see fit.
    I for one do not want to see these government powers extended any further.
    We are all well aware of where the risks lie and how to protect ourselves at this stage, and it is time for businesses to be allowed to reopen safely.

    https://ichr.ie/proposed-extension-of-part-3-of-the-health/

    Even better - heres all the TDs emails in one easy to copy and paste into your email program of choice.


  • #5609
    kleiner feigling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭kleiner feigling


    optogirl wrote: »
    No thanks. I think as frustrating & slow as this whole thing has been, the government are doing their best in extreme circumstances. Of course they won't and haven't got everything right but countless lives have been saved and this is not something that any government could have adequately prepared for.

    You make some fair points, and I agree that the emergency measures were initially necessary - but I can't get behind the forced closure of businesses since Christmas.
    With the vaccine rollout and greater knowledge overall, I just don't think its proportionate for the Government to potentially use the same reactive measures as they have done to date. Most of the measures simply don't makes sense (eg regarding outdoor activity/movement).
    I've definitely lost confidence in their competency to manage this situation when they keep resorting to extremely strict lockdowns.


  • #5610
    kleiner feigling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭kleiner feigling


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Even better - heres all the TDs emails in one easy to copy and paste into your email program of choice.

    Cheers for that, very handy!

    For anyone using it, please also consider posting a letter as these are much harder to ignore than emails.


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  • #5611
    Klonker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    Good few comments on here this morning in relation to Stephen Donnelly on Morning Ireland. I just want to add that the interviewer was very bad I thought. Pushing Donnelly to give details of a contingency plan in terms of rollout if NIAC give new guidelines for Astra Zenica, even though we don't even know what guidelines NIAC will give yet.

    Also pushed him to guarantee that even with this Astra Zenica issue, to guarantee that 80% will be offered a vaccine by end of June. I'm no fan of Donnelly but how can he guarantee something out of his control? If he guaranteed it and then a load of Pfizer factories went up in smoke he'd be blamed for not meeting the figures he guaranteed.

    It's gutter journalism, just looking for the headline 'Health Minister guarentees 80% offered vaccine by end of June'


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