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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #5492
    The Great Gatsby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭The Great Gatsby


    Deleted User wrote: »
    We live in a country in the most severe level of lockdown with 20% of our population vaccinated. And the most vulnerable at that.

    The only country to close construction this year.
    The only country that has imposed travel restrictions on its citizens for 7 months now.

    Nothing will be brought forward. They’ll probably still be reluctant to open pubs when everyone is vaccinated.

    I think we also have the longest golf course lockdown of most, if not all, countries . . . I don't even play golf, but for the life of me I can't see an issue with two people or a family going out on a golf course for a game . . . some of the lockdown policies are mind boggling, or at least they are to me. -- maybe there are "variants" in the bunkers that I don't know about!


  • #5493
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    It's amazing that people still don't understand that the restrictions on golf etc aren't necessarily about the activities themselves, but it's about people gathering.


  • #5494
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,785 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    theballz wrote: »
    Listened to McWilliams this week. The stats he referenced re our ICU capacity per 100,000 people was terrifying and is ultimately the driver behind the heavy lockdown we have over the last year.

    5 ICU beds per 100,000 people in Ireland (same as Mexico) vs 39 ICU beds per 100,000 people in Germany yet we have one of the best funded health systems in the world?

    The HSE needs a major reform post covid. Paul Reid (as great as a job he has done) needs to go and we need an experienced CEO who has managed such a reform in the past to do it. Stephen Donnelly also has no idea what he’s doing and is one of the most disingenuous politician I’ve ever seen.

    Last year people had a sense of togetherness and hope, now it’s frustration and anger.

    What has he done?


  • #5495
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,527 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Faugheen wrote: »
    It's amazing that people still don't understand that the restrictions on golf etc aren't necessarily about the activities themselves, but it's about people gathering.

    I know. The absolute horror of it.


  • #5496
    lukas8888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    Faugheen wrote: »
    It's amazing that people still don't understand that the restrictions on golf etc aren't necessarily about the activities themselves, but it's about people gathering.
    Maybe a little less of the condescending posts, I am sure every body knows at this stage the rationale behind the outdoor sport restrictions.But guess what the Golf one along with a few others should have been dropped months ago.


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  • #5497
    mean gene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    lawred2 wrote: »
    What has he done?

    done a few tweets and radio interviews for his 420 k salary.


  • #5498
    User142
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭User142


    People understand the flawed logic that stopping golf prevents gatherings but they have eyes and can see that people are gathering outside anyway without golf. The blanket banning of gatherings doesn't work anymore.


  • #5499
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    Maybe a little less of the condescending posts, I am sure every body knows at this stage the rationale behind the outdoor sport restrictions.But guess what the Golf one along with a few others should have been dropped months ago.

    Well when I continue to see posts saying ‘What’s wrong with golf it’s a socially distant activity etc’ then clearly they don’t know at this stage.

    It should have been dropped by now, I agree, but that’s not what people are implying.


  • #5500
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,725 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    It’s important to realise when questioning why golf is not allowed that the same people who decided to close the golf courses also closed construction in Ireland

    The science is complicated


  • #5501
    niamh247
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭niamh247


    Why are the schools re-opening when lock-down is still not lifted? Lockdown and travel restrictions mean it is very risky atmosphere out there, but resuming schools contradicts it. For people who are comfortable with online classes, reopening puts tremendous pressure and tension as the online classes are stopped and kids are forced to come to school. This seems totally nonsensical as it goes against the health for parents and kids, while claiming that reopening is for health reasons. Probably the policy makers are not in good mental health.


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  • #5502
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Golf should never have been banned, moronic decision to stop it in the first place


  • #5503
    irishguy1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    Faugheen wrote: »
    It's amazing that people still don't understand that the restrictions on golf etc aren't necessarily about the activities themselves, but it's about people gathering.

    I think they understand all right...I play golf and did last year...There was no real gathering of people....Just get out there and get off...


  • #5504
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    niamh247 wrote: »
    Why are the schools re-opening when lock-down is still not lifted? Lockdown and travel restrictions mean it is very risky atmosphere out there, but resuming schools contradicts it. For people who are comfortable with online classes, reopening puts tremendous pressure and tension as the online classes are stopped and kids are forced to come to school. This seems totally nonsensical as it goes against the health for parents and kids, while claiming that reopening is for health reasons. Probably the policy makers are not in good mental health.

    A child's education is essential. All other essential services are open, from supermarkets to phone shops.


  • #5505
    RGS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭RGS


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Well when I continue to see posts saying ‘What’s wrong with golf it’s a socially distant activity etc’ then clearly they don’t know at this stage.

    It should have been dropped by now, I agree, but that’s not what people are implying.

    Glad you agree golf and other outdoor activities should be allowed,

    The real argument is why our golf courses were closed 3.5 times more than Scotland. 210 days compared to 60. Both countries comparable in weather and climate.
    Scotland had no concerns about gatherings. NPHET are too concerned with telling people what not to do instead of promoting and encouraging what we can do. IMO people re act better to positive messages.

    Putting a football comparison on it NPHET is Jose Mourinho when the team, us, need an Alex Ferguson or Jurgen klopp type manager.


  • #5506
    niamh247
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭niamh247


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    A child's education is essential. All other essential services are open, from supermarkets to phone shops.


    What's wrong with education through online classes?


  • #5507
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    irishguy1983 wrote: »
    I think they understand all right...I play golf and did last year...There was no real gathering of people....Just get out there and get off...

    I think the problem is the well known scrums that happen with golf. And the hugs and kisses with every successful putt. Dangerous game.


  • #5508
    irishguy1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    Deleted User wrote: »
    We live in a country in the most severe level of lockdown with 20% of our population vaccinated. And the most vulnerable at that.

    The only country to close construction this year.
    The only country that has imposed travel restrictions on its citizens for 7 months now.

    Nothing will be brought forward. They’ll probably still be reluctant to open pubs when everyone is vaccinated.

    I was kind of hoping someone might disagree with me actually:) Yeah I am kind of doubtful/negative about the future....I feel like NPHET are going to be around forever...I can see them on the news still next April...I am being flippant but I’d like to be hearing plans for May now!!


  • #5509
    questionmark?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    niamh247 wrote: »
    Why are the schools re-opening when lock-down is still not lifted? Lockdown and travel restrictions mean it is very risky atmosphere out there, but resuming schools contradicts it. For people who are comfortable with online classes, reopening puts tremendous pressure and tension as the online classes are stopped and kids are forced to come to school. This seems totally nonsensical as it goes against the health for parents and kids, while claiming that reopening is for health reasons. Probably the policy makers are not in good mental health.

    The question to ask is why have so many children been denied a proper education for so long!! Opening schools is a risk worth taken. Not every kid can study at home due to family and/or housing situation, bad WiFi etc....


  • #5510
    irishguy1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    I think the problem is the well known scrums that happen with golf. And the hugs and kisses with every successful putt. Dangerous game.

    I know yeah. Kind of shocked someone came out with that...If people do have a chat afterwards it is also outside...Bars, clubhouses are all closed...My club is opening on the 26th and we can’t use the toilet.....


  • #5511
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭celt262


    Anyone hear anything about a convoy of travellers landing down to Pfizer demanding the vaccine ? Just got a video send to me of loads of caravans and vehicles pulling up outside a factory.


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  • #5512
    RGS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭RGS


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    I think the problem is the well known scrums that happen with golf. And the hugs and kisses with every successful putt. Dangerous game.

    The hugs and kisses in mixed foursomes are a known covid spreader.


  • #5513
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    niamh247 wrote: »
    What's wrong with education through online classes?

    Yes I'm sure a 5 year old from a disadvantaged background is going to learn a lot in an online setting, if they even have a laptop in the family to log onto it. Good luck to a poor family with 3 or 4 kids fighting over access to the one laptop in the family.


  • #5514
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    celt262 wrote: »
    Anyone hear anything about a convoy of travellers landing down to Pfizer demanding the vaccine ? Just got a video send to me of loads of caravans and vehicles pulling up outside a factory.

    Grange Castle.


  • #5515
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,305 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    niamh247 wrote: »
    What's wrong with education through online classes?

    Have you kids at primary school? Online has been shown to not be working for younger students.


  • #5516
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,075 ✭✭✭jackboy


    niamh247 wrote: »
    What's wrong with education through online classes?

    Loads of children had zero engagement with the on line classes. On line classes mean zero education for thousands of children.


  • #5517
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    A ski resort in Whistler, Canada has had a large breakout of the P1 variant, making Canada the biggest hotspot outside Brazil for it.

    Good news today about that . They are vaccinating the whole of Whistler this week !


  • #5518
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    niamh247 wrote: »
    What's wrong with education through online classes?

    Do you have kids?:confused:


  • #5519
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,477 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    I have two kids in secondary school. One has thrived and doesn't want to go back. The other has struggled. Really struggled. I don't want to be melodramatic but I'd have serious worries for him if he didn't get some structure and social contact soon.

    Nonetheless, their patience has been remarkable. They haven't moaned once since last March. Heroic really, given that the virus poses zero risk to them.

    I'll sure they'll grow into the moaning cult eventually. :pac:


  • #5520
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Looks like it's not over yet with new variants cropping up. This year will take a hit too.


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  • #5521
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,368 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Good news today about that . They are vaccinating the whole of Whistler this week !

    Whistler is a high altitude ski resort, a place you can ski with certainty in April. You just know there are wealthy Irish types skiing there right now....


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