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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #4262
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    OwenM wrote: »
    The R numbers published by NPHET are a total nonsense, the last one I read was 'between 1 and 1.3' which is ridiculous - they are stating cases are not growing or they are growing rapidly - which is it? Another one a while back was 'between 0.6 and 0.9' again totally useless range, a bit like backing all the horses in a race.

    When you add numbers together they get bigger.

    If you have .9 of an orange on a plate and then add .6 of an orange to the plate you have 1.5 pieces of orange.


  • #4263
    OwenM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭OwenM


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    I’d wager there’s more chance of 500 cases spreading then 21.

    No one will or should care about 500 or even 5000 cases if the vaccination rollout has covered 70-80% of the population.


  • #4264
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Exactly. I look forward to the day when we lose this fixation on case numbers. Chris Whitty in the UK was very open this week when he said that case numbers WILL increase substantially, but that that does not pose a threat to the reopening roadmap.

    Aye they're pretty much irrelevant once the vulnerable are vaccinated. They'll have crowds in for the snooker in a few weeks. Can't wait for the snooker myself. :D Meanwhile we're still piss-arsing about and people still arguing that in some way we're doing a better job because according to some projections we may catch up to them in 3 months' time.


  • #4265
    OwenM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭OwenM


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    When you add numbers together they get bigger.

    Was that an attempt at humour or did you post accidentally?


  • #4266
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Jesus. Probably something ridiculous like the UK and the USA

    Not sure are they included also, say there would be more resistance to them than France or Germany say with how many Irish live there and FDI from US companies etc


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  • #4267
    eeepaulo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    shtpEdthePlum wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2021/0407/1208370-sna-vaccines/

    A load of education staff in the government ministers constituencies were contacted by the HSE and received their jab last week.

    This is getting beyond a joke. I don't begrudge those people a vaccine for one minute but maybe if the cunts in charge were more interested in actually getting it rolled out than hand picking which menial labourer they deem worthy of selection we would be getting somewhere.

    My first thought was which minister's children are in those schools, just a coincidence like.


  • #4268
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    OwenM wrote: »
    No one will or should care about 500 or even 5000 cases if the vaccination rollout has covered 70-80% of the population.

    If the vaccines work we won’t have any cases.


  • #4269
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    GP referral data for yesterday is out. Good news - lower than last Monday. I thought we might see a big spike with the long weekend, but it looks fine.

    https://tomorrowscare.ie/covid/2021-04-07_COVID_GP_Survey_Results.pdf
    Interesting jump in calls that met the criteria without clinically likely being covid.

    Anecdotally we've all noticed dry throats and sniffley noses with the sharp change in the weather. I wonder is that anything to do with it.


  • #4270
    OwenM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭OwenM


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    If the vaccines work we won’t have any cases.

    That's very unlikely, the virus is endemic and is likely to be with us for many years.


  • #4271
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    OwenM wrote: »
    Was that an attempt at humour or did you post accidentally?

    No it’s science.


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  • #4272
    BlondeBomb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭BlondeBomb


    Only around 3k vaccines administrated Easter Sunday so 12K Saturday and Sunday.


  • #4273
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Poor Canada isn't blessed with the science know-how of our Norma.

    https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1379766377502945281?s=20

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  • #4274
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Is there a reason you picked the two ends of the quoted R number range for your orange example?

    Ok if you take 1000000 oranges and then add 1 orange to the pile you have 1000001 oranges.


  • #4275
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1379768086832640001


  • #4276
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,468 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1379765642455318528

    He probably woke up at the end of the meeting


  • #4277
    OwenM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭OwenM


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    Ok if you take 1000000 oranges and then add 1 orange to the pile you have 1000001 oranges.

    Trying to illustrate that we don't comprehend addition and the effect of adding R numbers? Why would you add R numbers? It doesn't derive any meaningful or usable number.

    A bit like saying it was 12 degrees yesterday and 11 degrees today so 23 degrees? See - I can do addition and I know yesterday isn't today....


  • #4278
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    seamus wrote: »
    Interesting jump in calls that met the criteria without clinically likely being covid.

    Anecdotally we've all noticed dry throats and sniffley noses with the sharp change in the weather. I wonder is that anything to do with it.

    Daughter came down with nasty cough and sore throat over the weekend, 8 days since being in school, and no external contacts. Tested Sunday and negative. Sample of one, but she caught something somehow.


  • #4279
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    100 days in and it's news that in 2 weeks time we'll allow younger pensioners to register to get the vaccine. Ugh.


  • #4280
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Not too far off the figures on Prime Time last night https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Bray/status/1379771676687220741?s=19


  • #4281
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Stephen Donnelly parroting Paul Reid yesterday about outdoor transmission on about cases from changing rooms

    Anything to down play the outdoor report

    If they so concerned about cases in changing rooms then come out with concrete figures of cases related to that


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  • #4282
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Looks like that's the end for international travel for a few years

    How is a variant of concern measured or monitored

    What even is a variant of concern? It's all based on questionable science or anecdotal evidence

    The government have caved to the zero covid mob and ultra conservative NPHET

    There is no way out of this once it goes ahead

    We should have just joined the UK last year and left the EU as there is no respect for its principles or laws in this country


  • #4283
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,784 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    OwenM wrote: »
    Trying to illustrate that we don't comprehend addition and the effect of adding R numbers? Why would you add R numbers? It doesn't derive any meaningful or usable number.

    A bit like saying it was 12 degrees yesterday and 11 degrees today so 23 degrees? See - I can do addition and I know yesterday isn't today....

    Fairly sure he's being sarcastic


  • #4284
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,784 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    Looks like that's the end for international travel for a few years

    How is a variant of concern measured or monitored

    What even is a variant of concern? It's all based on questionable science or anecdotal evidence

    The government have caved to the zero covid mob and ultra conservative NPHET

    There is no way out of this once it goes ahead

    We should have just joined the UK last year and left the EU as there is no respect for its principles or laws in this country

    What's been announced now?


  • #4285
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    Looks like that's the end for international travel for a few years

    How is a variant of concern measured or monitored

    What even is a variant of concern? It's all based on questionable science or anecdotal evidence

    The government have caved to the zero covid mob and ultra conservative NPHET

    There is no way out of this once it goes ahead

    We should have just joined the UK last year and left the EU as there is no respect for its principles or laws in this country

    Where to even start...


  • #4286
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    lawred2 wrote: »
    What's been announced now?

    Everyone in Ireland is to surrender their passport immediately. Reports of an exodus of Irish people on makeshift dinghy's on their way to the UK to seek asylum. It's like Flight of the Doves for the 21st Century.


  • #4287
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭celt262


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Stephen Donnelly parroting Paul Reid yesterday about outdoor transmission on about cases from changing rooms

    Anything to down play the outdoor report

    If they so concerned about cases in changing rooms then come out with concrete figures of cases related to that

    The GAA only allowed changing rooms open for the Inter-County Championships and i presume other amateur sports did without them as well so i would love to see them figures also.


  • #4288
    Sanjuro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    Looks like that's the end for international travel for a few years

    How is a variant of concern measured or monitored

    What even is a variant of concern? It's all based on questionable science or anecdotal evidence

    The government have caved to the zero covid mob and ultra conservative NPHET

    There is no way out of this once it goes ahead

    We should have just joined the UK last year and left the EU as there is no respect for its principles or laws in this country

    Think it's time for you to log off the internet for a while.


  • #4289
    OwenM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭OwenM


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    Looks like that's the end for international travel for a few years

    How is a variant of concern measured or monitored

    What even is a variant of concern? It's all based on questionable science or anecdotal evidence

    The government have caved to the zero covid mob and ultra conservative NPHET

    There is no way out of this once it goes ahead

    We should have just joined the UK last year and left the EU as there is no respect for its principles or laws in this country


    Of all the variants, and there have been 10's of thousands, none of them have been shown to evade any vaccine so far approved, efficacy may vary slightly but universally the results show no deaths or hospitalisations even when efficacy is reduced.

    Public health restrictions on travel (or anything else) have to be proportionate to the threat, in a few weeks the death, ICU and hospital case numbers are going to implode and life goes back to normal, international travel at least within the EU will follow shortly after.


  • #4290
    Lillyfae
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    shtpEdthePlum wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2021/0407/1208370-sna-vaccines/

    A load of education staff in the government ministers constituencies were contacted by the HSE and received their jab last week.

    This is getting beyond a joke. I don't begrudge those people a vaccine for one minute but maybe if the cunts in charge were more interested in actually getting it rolled out than hand picking which menial labourer they deem worthy of selection we would be getting somewhere.

    As that report puts it it was the reserve list for 1 postcode. Special schools staff. What is the problem exactly?


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  • #4291
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    Think it's time for you to log off the internet for a while.

    Sorry for trying to voice an opposing view to the continued erosion of our rights and liberties. Who would have thought a view opposing the enforced incarceration of visiting EU workers and residents who have negative COVID tests would be so unpopular.

    We are tieing ourselves up here and it is going to take years to unravel what we are doing.

    Once the precedent has been set, it is hard to row back on it.

    It's sad to see, and I guess what I would like to do is logg off out of this country for a few months.


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