Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Vicxas · 06-04-2021 05:27PM

paulie21 wrote: »

443 cases 9 deaths

Backlog? I thought we only had 3 hundred something positives swabs today.

irishguy1983 · 06-04-2021 05:31PM

Vicxas wrote: »

Backlog? I thought we only had 3 hundred something positives swabs today.

I know it is Bank Holiday and all that jazz but two days in a row under 500 - how bad like

Banana Republic 1 · 06-04-2021 05:35PM

ninebeanrows wrote: »

We have to remember a large proportion of NPHET members would outright ban alcohol at a whim and probably chocolate bars too.

Many of them are extreme conservatives who will not move until there isn't a case recorded in this country.

What a load of balderdash.

Always_Running · 06-04-2021 05:36PM

Vicxas wrote: »

Backlog? I thought we only had 3 hundred something positives swabs today.

Cases last 7 days 3494

Positive swabs count last 7 days 3584

Lucas Hood · 06-04-2021 05:36PM

irishguy1983 wrote: »

I know it is Bank Holiday and all that jazz but two days in a row under 500 - how bad like

3 days isnt it?

06-04-2021 05:37PM

Of the 9 deaths related to Covid-19 reported tonight, 3 occurred in January, 2 in February, 3 in March and 1 in April.

We're on the final stretch, this thing is nearly over

covidrelease · 06-04-2021 05:38PM

Are we getting regional numbers?

Stheno · 06-04-2021 05:39PM

covidrelease wrote: »

Are we getting regional numbers?

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1379469380984143873?s=19

giveitholly · 06-04-2021 05:41PM

covidrelease wrote: »

Are we getting regional numbers?

https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1379472164345290767?s=19

aziz · 06-04-2021 05:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Of the 9 deaths related to Covid-19 reported tonight, 3 occurred in January, 2 in February, 3 in March and 1 in April.

We're on the final stretch, this thing is nearly over

Ah no,not another one,you’re jinxing it😁

06-04-2021 05:43PM

Time to open up. Criminal having large parts of the economy closed at this stage.

Faugheen · 06-04-2021 05:49PM

People reading into that data in the Irish Times need to remember that it's 0.1% of cases that can be identified as the source of the transmission.

Up until last week, there was no retroactive contact tracing. Contact tracing was used to find out who you might have spread the disease to, not where you got it. Conveniently the journalist here (Ronan McGreevey) left that bit out. It's the exact same reason why transmission in pubs, restaurants etc is so low. Even the lobby groups for them have accepted that the data means sweet **** all because CT only looked at who you were in contact with 48 hours previously and considering the damage their lobbying caused back in January.

Ronan McGreevey has a tendency to print pieces that are misleading in a bid to whip people up into a frenzy. He printed a piece a few weeks ago where he quoted an Electric Picnic organiser as saying that they're working on the assumption that it's going ahead this year. EP had to release a statement saying that person didn't work for EP and didn't speak on their behalf. However it was too late, people were already saying it should go ahead. He's grossly irresponsible and he's doing the exact same thing here.

So while outdoor transmission is most likely lower than indoors, there is simply no way to say that it is definitely that low, because contact tracing never aimed to find out the source. Another NPHET recommendation that was ignored by the government back in August, funnily enough, yet some people here would have you believe that NPHET call all the shots and have this great power.

Rosita · 06-04-2021 05:50PM

Interesting to see 32 cases reported in Cork, 8 more than in Kildare. About a week ago people here were saying Cork should be opening up, while they wondered what was going on in Kildare. Shows how volatile it all is.

igCorcaigh · 06-04-2021 05:50PM

The end is in sight for the great Coronavirus pandemic of 2020/21.

What would be criminal would be allowing the virus to spread in these last couple of months, just before our most vulnerable citizens have been vaccinated.

Banana Republic 1 · 06-04-2021 05:52PM

seamus wrote: »

I wouldn't expect it to hit case numbers. 1 in 6 is a statistically tiny amount for a highly transmissible disease, it won't affect R numbers at all.

However, when that 1 in 6 is heavily weighted towards vulnerable groups and those who spread it to vulnerable groups (such as frontline staff), I would expect to see hospital & ICU numbers continue falling with little connection to the case numbers.

In Brazil the reason the icu numbers are very high is that younger people take longer to die.

Banana Republic 1 · 06-04-2021 05:53PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

The end is in sight for the great Coronavirus pandemic of 2020/21.

What would be criminal would be allowing the virus to spread in these last couple of months, just before our most vulnerable citizens have been vaccinated.

It’s in sight for western countries.

Responder XY · 06-04-2021 05:55PM

Faugheen wrote: »

People reading into that data in the Irish Times need to remember that it's 0.1% of cases that can be identified as the source of the transmission.

Up until last week, there was no retroactive contact tracing. Contact tracing was used to find out who you might have spread the disease to, not where you got it. Conveniently the journalist here (Ronan McGreevey) left that bit out. It's the exact same reason why transmission in pubs, restaurants etc is so low. Even the lobby groups for them have accepted that the data means sweet **** all because CT only looked at who you were in contact with 48 hours previously and considering the damage their lobbying caused back in January.

Ronan McGreevey has a tendency to print pieces that are misleading in a bid to whip people up into a frenzy. He printed a piece a few weeks ago where he quoted an Electric Picnic organiser as saying that they're working on the assumption that it's going ahead this year. EP had to release a statement saying that person didn't work for EP and didn't speak on their behalf. However it was too late, people were already saying it should go ahead. He's grossly irresponsible and he's doing the exact same thing here.

So while outdoor transmission is most likely lower than indoors, there is simply no way to say that it is definitely that low, because contact tracing never aimed to find out the source. Another NPHET recommendation that was ignored by the government back in August, funnily enough, yet some people here would have you believe that NPHET call all the shots and have this great power.

That same article said that only 20% of cases are untraced? found that difficult to reconcile with everything else that has been reported, but assuming it's accurate we know the source of 80% of cases and 79.9% of the time - it spreads indoor.

Very convincing.

Str8outtaWuhan · 06-04-2021 05:56PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

The end is in sight for the great Coronavirus pandemic of 2020/21.

What would be criminal would be allowing the virus to spread in these last couple of months, just before our most vulnerable citizens have been vaccinated.

There will always be "more ", at some point people have to realise that some people will die from this just like they die from any other illness.

Banana Republic 1 · 06-04-2021 05:56PM

Rosita wrote: »

Interesting to see 32 cases reported in Cork, 8 more than in Kildare. About a week ago people here were saying Cork should be opening up, while they wondered what was going on in Kildare. Shows how volatile it all is.

Still the captain doctor science crew will keep on moaning regardless.

#prove it

covidrelease · 06-04-2021 05:59PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

The end is in sight for the great Coronavirus pandemic of 2020/21.

What would be criminal would be allowing the virus to spread in these last couple of months, just before our most vulnerable citizens have been vaccinated.

Our vulnerable have the option to wait at home until they get vaccinated. Wont be long now anyway.

No point trying to hold everybody else back.

irishguy1983 · 06-04-2021 06:05PM

Rosita wrote: »

Interesting to see 32 cases reported in Cork, 8 more than in Kildare. About a week ago people here were saying Cork should be opening up, while they wondered what was going on in Kildare. Shows how volatile it all is.

Ahhhh come on now - half a million in Cork - not really comparable....

Banana Republic 1 · 06-04-2021 06:07PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

There will always be "more ", at some point people have to realise that some people will die from this just like they die from any other illness.

You first.

igCorcaigh · 06-04-2021 06:09PM

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

It’s in sight for western countries.

Good point.

06-04-2021 06:11PM

aziz wrote: »

Ah no,not another one,you’re jinxing itðŸ˜

Haha, last time I promise, I'm excited

Looking forward to doing about a 100 different things that have had to be put on hold

iamwhoiam · 06-04-2021 06:13PM

covidrelease wrote: »

Our vulnerable have the option to wait at home until they get vaccinated. Wont be long now anyway.

No point trying to hold everybody else back.

Not all vulnerable have that option . Many need to work .

Faugheen · 06-04-2021 06:14PM

Responder XY wrote: »

That same article said that only 20% of cases are untraced? found that difficult to reconcile with everything else that has been reported, but assuming it's accurate we know the source of 80% of cases and 79.9% of the time - it spreads indoor.

Very convincing.

It was using data from the HPSC that everyone can use.

The article found that 20 percent of transmissions couldn't be identified. It does not say that 80 percent of transmissions were identified at source.

Like I said, it is simply impossible to say where the source of infections for a lot of infections was, because contact tracing didn't go back to find it at source.

For example, if you started getting symptoms and got tested, returned a positive test, and you gave 9 close contacts in the preceeding 48 hours to the contract tracing team. If all 9 subsequently tested positive, then it would noted that the source of transmission was identified for all of them ie you. However, if you met with all 9 outside of that 48 hour window, then contact tracing wouldn't ask you about them. If they all developed symptoms, got tested and came back positive, then there would no likely source of transmission.

There is also the caveat that you might not have even been the source and that one of your 9 contacts was, but they just didn't show symptoms until later.

I'm not trying to say that outdoor transmission is just as risky as indoors. I think we can all see that it's not. However that Irish Times data is misleading and you can't read too much into it at all.

Faugheen · 06-04-2021 06:16PM

covidrelease wrote: »

Our vulnerable have the option to wait at home until they get vaccinated. Wont be long now anyway.

No point trying to hold everybody else back.

Not all of them do, actually.

'Vulnerable' people aren't just over 70s, you know. They're teachers, healthcare workers, people providing essential services.

Think people need to take their blinkers off and really think before they make sweeping statements like this.

funnydoggy · 06-04-2021 06:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Haha, last time I promise, I'm excited
Looking forward to doing about a 100 different things that have had to be put on hold

I just want to go back to work to be honest. That and the cinema

iamwhoiam · 06-04-2021 06:17PM

I did laugh at the News . The HSE and NPHET have told us time and time to listen to the science
Now the science tells us that outdoor transmission is 0.1% of cases
But now Colm Henry tells us not to listen to science as it’s misleading !!

Faugheen · 06-04-2021 06:19PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I did laugh at the News . The HSE and NPHET have told us time and time to listen to the science
Now the science tells us that outdoor transmission is 0.1% of cases
But now Colm Henry tells us not to listen to science as it’s misleading !!

That data is misleading, just like it was misleading in the amount of cases and clusters in pubs and restaurants.

It is genuinely impossible to say where trasmission truly occured because contact tracing never sought to find that out.

Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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