WWE Network Thread

beakerjoe · 02-04-2021 9:10pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Hey now, Britt Baker is pretty good.

If Jungle Boy doesnt float your boat, you need to stop watching Pro Wrestling

LineOfBeauty · 02-04-2021 9:13pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

If Jungle Boy doesnt float your boat, you need to stop watching Pro Wrestling

I'd say MJF, Sammy Guevara are both top prospects, then people like Will Hobbs, Wardlow are gems too and there's like a tonne of others they've dug deep to find. And then, there's HOOK...

beakerjoe · 02-04-2021 9:17pm

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

I'd say MJF, Sammy Guevara are both top prospects, then people like Will Hobbs, Wardlow are gems too and there's like a tonne of others they've dug deep to find. And then, there's HOOK...

I cant wait until Hook makes it to WWE and gets a Peter Pan villain gimmick. Then again you may enjoy that visual :pac:

sirmanga · 02-04-2021 9:19pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

I get what you are trying to say, i believe your comparisons dont fit.

WWE certainly feel AEW is a threat. Maybe not an immediate threat but its certainly got their attention.

They wouldn't go two hours on NXT when AEW Dynamite debuted otherwise.

The counter booking on NXT suggests they are worried.

The move from Wednesday to Tuesday nights.

Again maybe not an immediate threat but they certainly are feeling a little worried.

AEW is miles off being the brand WWE is, but are slowly growing and doing probably better than most expected in tehir first 2 years especially with a Pandemic.

I always got the impression that WWE never considered Wednesday nights a war. They were curious about AEW at the start, so they put NXT on Wednesdays to feel out the situation and, honestly, be dicks.
They split the wrestling audience, and now they realise that AEW aren't bringing in any new fans, so WWE feel like their work is done, they stifled AEW's growth, so now they will hop to Tuesday night where they'll go unopposed, and, you'd think, get a bigger audience. It's quite brilliant when you think about it.

Sure, AEW might get more people watching on Wednesdays now, but it's just going to be the people who would have been watching NXT. The two companies will be sharing the same pool of fans. AEW hasn't drawn new people to the product.

If WWE were worried about AEW they wouldn't be moving off Wednesday nights, they'd be staying put and loading NXT with main roster stars. The very fact that they are leaving Wednesdays tells me WWE don't care about AEW.

LineOfBeauty · 02-04-2021 9:20pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

I cant wait until Hook makes it to WWE and gets a Peter Pan villain gimmick. Then again you may enjoy that visual :pac:

Haha any HOOK is better than no HOOK. I'm loving the wifebeater thing he's got going on right now.

LineOfBeauty · 02-04-2021 9:21pm

sirmanga wrote: »

I always got the impression that WWE never considered Wednesday nights a war. They were curious about AEW at the start, so they put NXT on Wednesdays to feel out the situation and, honestly, be dicks.
They split the wrestling audience, and now they realise that AEW aren't bringing in any new fans, so WWE feel like their work is done, they stifled AEW's growth, so now they will hop to Tuesday night where they'll go unopposed, and, you'd think, get a bigger audience. It's quite brilliant when you think about it.

Sure, AEW might get more people watching on Wednesdays now, but it's just going to be the people who would have been watching NXT. The two companies will be sharing the same pool of fans. AEW hasn't drawn new people to the product.

If WWE were worried about AEW they wouldn't be moving off Wednesday nights, they'd be staying put and loading NXT with main roster stars. The very fact that they are leaving Wednesdays tells me WWE don't care about AEW.

Dude if you seriously think WWE wanted to move nights I then you're woefully misinformed. They'll stick NXT Evolve on Wednesday, probably on Peacock, to counter programme instead.

beakerjoe · 02-04-2021 10:00pm

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

Dude if you seriously think WWE wanted to move nights I then you're woefully misinformed. They'll stick NXT Evolve on Wednesday, probably on Peacock, to counter programme instead.

Sure if they werent worried about AEW theyd just let them be. WWE were hoping to crush AEW before it began.

Now they are backing away, perhaps in the worry that things may get worse for the NXT brand.

It wasnt a 'war', but AEW didnt get crushed, instead they performed better than expected.

And in short Wrestling is in a better place.

Monokne · 03-04-2021 12:38am

sirmanga wrote: »

I always got the impression that WWE never considered Wednesday nights a war. They were curious about AEW at the start, so they put NXT on Wednesdays to feel out the situation and, honestly, be dicks.
They split the wrestling audience, and now they realise that AEW aren't bringing in any new fans, so WWE feel like their work is done, they stifled AEW's growth, so now they will hop to Tuesday night where they'll go unopposed, and, you'd think, get a bigger audience. It's quite brilliant when you think about it.

Sure, AEW might get more people watching on Wednesdays now, but it's just going to be the people who would have been watching NXT. The two companies will be sharing the same pool of fans. AEW hasn't drawn new people to the product.

If WWE were worried about AEW they wouldn't be moving off Wednesday nights, they'd be staying put and loading NXT with main roster stars. The very fact that they are leaving Wednesdays tells me WWE don't care about AEW.

They are moving because the USA network is getting the NHL on Wednesdays. They have no choice.

Pentecost · 04-04-2021 4:11pm

So after 7 years my US subscription was finally cancelled today. I decided I'd continue with an Irish one for this month anyway. It's the archive stuff, the documentaries and the Stone Cold Sessions that I watch when I do watch it. But I'll most likely watch Mania and the two nights of Takeover etc.

The Ayatolla · 04-04-2021 7:55pm

Also on one of the original US subs. They all being cancelled so ya?

chopperbyrne · 04-04-2021 8:18pm

Have they put up a second episode of that Icons series yet? The one that started with Yoko?

Loughc · 04-04-2021 8:26pm

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Have they put up a second episode of that Icons series yet? The one that started with Yoko?

Yeah the second episode was Beth Phoenix

Pentecost · 04-04-2021 8:31pm

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Also on one of the original US subs. They all being cancelled so ya?

Yeah I'd gotten an email to say it would be cancelled today.

Monokne · 04-04-2021 9:52pm

I am thoroughly enjoying the outrage and horror amongst yanks at having to use a VPN. In particular, most seemed to have been under the impression that you used the VPN to sign up but thereafter you wouldn't need it again. Twitter & Reddit full of "I HAVE TO USE THE VPN EVERY TIME I WANT TO WATCH". No sh*t mate, welcome to my life.

Itssoeasy · 04-04-2021 10:10pm

Pentecost wrote: »

Yeah I'd gotten an email to say it would be cancelled today.

Mine isn’t cancelled although I changed my country to Ireland months ago.

Itssoeasy · 04-04-2021 10:24pm

Monokne wrote: »

I am thoroughly enjoying the outrage and horror amongst yanks at having to use a VPN. In particular, most seemed to have been under the impression that you used the VPN to sign up but thereafter you wouldn't need it again. Twitter & Reddit full of "I HAVE TO USE THE VPN EVERY TIME I WANT TO WATCH". No sh*t mate, welcome to my life.

I’ve not seen that but as I was reading I heard it in a agitated American accent. Some of us here could give courses on how to use the network and VPNs.

beakerjoe · 04-04-2021 11:36pm

Monokne wrote: »

I am thoroughly enjoying the outrage and horror amongst yanks at having to use a VPN. In particular, most seemed to have been under the impression that you used the VPN to sign up but thereafter you wouldn't need it again. Twitter & Reddit full of "I HAVE TO USE THE VPN EVERY TIME I WANT TO WATCH". No sh*t mate, welcome to my life.

Like its not complicated. Poor yanks. Like the outrage when a Saudi Show was being shown at 3pm here. They lost their ****.

Joined Peacock with my VPN.... not for WWE, hopefully watching Mania live on Peacock will be as good as on the network.

The Ayatolla · 04-04-2021 11:43pm

Is there a cheaper country we can all sign up from à la all the Turkish/Brazilian Netflix subscribers on permanent holiday in Ireland?

beakerjoe · 04-04-2021 11:48pm

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Is there a cheaper country we can all sign up from à la all the Turkish/Brazilian Netflix subscribers on permanent holiday in Ireland?

If you have a VPN signing up for Peacock is 5.00 per month, but with a discounted code of half price. So for 2.50 you can watch Mania.

The Ayatolla · 04-04-2021 11:50pm

Not bad. Will look into it, have VPN Unlimited.

beakerjoe · 04-04-2021 11:53pm

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Not bad. Will look into it, have VPN Unlimited.

There was a code advertised on Smackdown for half off.

Whether its best to watch live on a vpn on Peacock vs live on the European network is unkown to me. Gonna chance my arm with the VPN.

The Ayatolla · 04-04-2021 11:57pm

What's the 50% off code?
On their site I'm seeing 4.99 monthly or 9.99?

The Ayatolla · 05-04-2021 12:12am

Ah - so it's 9.99 one off payment for a four month subscription.

code: PEACOCKMANIA

ThePott · 05-04-2021 12:14am

Maybe I'm wrong but don't believe it needs a code. At least when I signed up I went to https://www.peacocktv.com/WWE and if you are a first-time customer then you could get 4 months for 10 dollars which works out at $2.50.

At least that's what I got, unless that offer is gone now.

beakerjoe · 05-04-2021 12:54am

ThePott wrote: »

Maybe I'm wrong but don't believe it needs a code. At least when I signed up I went to https://www.peacocktv.com/WWE and if you are a first-time customer then you could get 4 months for 10 dollars which works out at $2.50.

At least that's what I got, unless that offer is gone now.

Maybe thats it. They mentioned the offer on smackdown and Cole referneced 2.50. The offer itself was blurred out by BT Sport.

beakerjoe · 05-04-2021 12:54am

Gonna test Peacock out on NXT Takeover.

The Ayatolla · 05-04-2021 1:14am

Testing out Peakcock now on a Fire Stick with VPN Unlimited. Just watching Talking Smack down which is OnDemand but so far, so good.

There's a 7-day free trial with Peacock so I'll signup for that tomorrow!

J. Marston · 05-04-2021 1:53am

The network is still the same as it was in Ireland, yeah? I only get it once a year for Mania so nothing has changed?

ThePott · 05-04-2021 10:45am

I've used Peacock for NXT the last few days and thought it was excellent.
That being said I used it to try watch Fastlane after the fact and was disappointed but hoping that was just an early glitch and it will be better from now.

I know people are complaining about the older content and censorship but that doesn't bother me all that much personally.

The Ayatolla · 05-04-2021 2:40pm

Pretty hard to pay for the Peacock sub. Revolut & Paypal both seem to fail for me.
Anyone have any ideas?

beakerjoe · 05-04-2021 3:18pm

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Pretty hard to pay for the Peacock sub. Revolut & Paypal both seem to fail for me.
Anyone have any ideas?

Google pay worked for me.

Necro · 05-04-2021 3:23pm

Was just going to ask the same question re: payment method. I'mma stick with the Network but would be interested in getting the full Peacock package at some point...

PTH2009 · 05-04-2021 3:27pm

Jesus lads just pay the €12.99 and save yourselves from all the hassle

:D

beakerjoe · 05-04-2021 3:28pm

Necro wrote: »

Was just going to ask the same question re: payment method. I'mma stick with the Network but would be interested in getting the full Peacock package at some point...

I did it by accident. I made my account for free, then couldn't pay whatsoever using my card or PayPal.

Then tried doing the same on my phone.... no dice, then accidentally came across an option to pay via Google Pay in yhe Play Store.... boom, it worked.

Necro · 05-04-2021 3:29pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Jesus lads just pay the €12.99 and save yourselves from all the hassle :D

Nah I have the Network, I'm more interested in the other things Peacock have tbh

beakerjoe · 05-04-2021 4:03pm

Necro wrote: »

Nah I have the Network, I'm more interested in the other things Peacock have tbh

My own sub went after Rumble, so was gonna sign up for it for Mania.

But wanted to watch Superstore season 6 so think Ill try peacock for Takeover.... if its a good experience then maybe I wont reupp to WWE.

Necro · 05-04-2021 4:04pm

I'll be cancelling post Mania but I always commit from Jan to April for the road to Mania. Mind you, this may be the last time given the state of the product at the moment.

beakerjoe · 05-04-2021 4:07pm

Necro wrote: »

I'll be cancelling post Mania but I always commit from Jan to April for the road to Mania. Mind you, this may be the last time given the state of the product at the moment.

I feel like we say that every year

Necro · 05-04-2021 4:10pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

I feel like we say that every year

I know :rolleyes:

I truly feel like this gif is my relationship with wrestling

The Ayatolla · 05-04-2021 4:14pm

Google Pay worked anyway for Peacock.

Peacock also shows EPL games so it's worth a bash if you have a decent VPN.

beakerjoe · 05-04-2021 4:24pm

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Google Pay worked anyway for Peacock.

Peacock also shows EPL games so it's worth a bash if you have a decent VPN.

I dont know if they show all games. Also I dunno if I can stomach American commentators

The White Wolf · 05-04-2021 4:28pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

I feel like we say that every year

Their original content has gotten better so I'll be liable to get it back I'm sure, but yeah getting rid after mania as well.

Monokne · 05-04-2021 10:50pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

I dont know if they show all games. Also I dunno if I can stomach American commentators

They use a broad range of broadcasters including sometimes the PL's own. Martin Tyler does a lot of games for them. You might get a yank but you might not. Yes, I watch PL on Peacock before you ask.

The in studio analysis is Rebecca Lowe of Setanta fame, Robbie Earle and Robbie Mustoe. Again you get the odd Tim Howard or Alexei Lalas but mostly UK folk.

They show about 6-7 games a week but with NBC SN closing at the end of the year it'll probably be 8-9 with one on NBC itself.

CastorTroy · 06-04-2021 8:16pm

Seems the move to Peacock is benefitting them.
I don't think tvline would have it on their "what to watch" article if it was just the Network
https://tvline.com/what-to-watch/chad-series-premiere-nasim-pedrad-tbs-comedy/

Monokne · 06-04-2021 9:36pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

Seems the move to Peacock is benefitting them.
I don't think tvline would have it on their "what to watch" article if it was just the Network
https://tvline.com/what-to-watch/chad-series-premiere-nasim-pedrad-tbs-comedy/

They're making about $100 million more per year on it through Peacock than direct...so yeah, it's benefiting them

But I get your point.

PTH2009 · 07-04-2021 2:32pm

Think I'll stick to the network for the Takeovers

Ads on BT would do my head in as always

CastorTroy · 08-04-2021 12:50am

Well they didn't edit out AEW related material

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwHuxXNe06U

JP Liz V1 · 08-04-2021 2:44am

Monokne wrote: »

Steph should be top 10 realistically, even in kayfabe.

She's been a key character on TV for 2 decades, is one of the best female promo's there's been and was in what's probably the highest profile match involving women in Wrestlemania history.

Steph 23
Becky 3
Charlotte 2
Trish 1

Monokne · 09-04-2021 12:52am

Trish at 1 is just one of those WOW moments.

I love Trish. But she got over based on her looks. That's it. End of story.

She did develop into an acceptable pro wrestler and a borderline reasonable promo and she deserves credit for that. Really, genuinely does. She also seems like a really wonderful lady.

But by what metric would she hold a candle to Charlotte, Becky or Ronda? She cannot cut a promo or work a match anywhere near their level, never in a match that was featured at anywhere close to PPV main event level, never really involved in a program that was there to draw money. She was a reliable midcard performer when the division was presented in that manner. I mean how many matches did she ever have that were longer than 10 minutes?

There are two rational explanations and the answer is probably a combination - Vince's predilection for that specific look, and Vince & the companies tendency to present the past as superior to the present.

I'm probably putting far too much thought into it but it is just so objectively silly.

Agent Coulson · 11-04-2021 2:53pm

This is one I think I would enjoy watching.

How long before they make one on the Mother & Son.

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