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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #3482
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    covidrelease wrote: »
    Not everybody goes to hospital when advised to by their GP

    Fact. Deal with it.

    That's not what you said. Maybe you yourself should deal with the fact you were making assertions that were totally false. In case it wasn't clear enough for you: People are not admitted because they choose to be or are scared. Hospital admission aren't akin to the hackneyed panic buying of toilet rolls. Admissions don't increase in line with a scare story on RTE. If a person is clinically ill enough to be admitted to hospital they should not be trying to ride it out at home.


  • #3483
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Jesus lads, we all have disagreements on various topics, but why are so many of you feeding that troll (though I've been guilty of it too!)


  • #3484
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Jesus lads, we all have disagreements on various topics, but why are so many of you feeding that troll (though I've been guilty of it too!)

    You're right of course but every now and again they need to be faced with the rubbish they are trying to present as facts. Unfortunately some people read this tripe and believe then repeat it.

    If it's trolling then the Mods should call them out on it.


  • #3485
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    So ****ing annoyed. Down at Blackrock Village at the Marina in Cork earlier enjoying nice weather, coffee and a lovely buzz. Not busy, everyone sitting spaced out in great form enjoying themselves. Three lads busking, playing nice chilled out music. An ideal mid-day treat.

    Then two guards came along and moved them on. Killed the atmosphere immediately and lots of people went away.

    Livid. I know they've got a job to do too but it's still really annoying. They went after the low hanging fruit today IMO


  • #3486
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,153 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    You're right of course but every now and again they need to be faced with the rubbish they are trying to present as facts. Unfortunately some people read this tripe and believe then repeat it.

    If it's trolling then the Mods should call them out on it.

    Because moderation is not dealing with this properly, I've decided myself to not bother engaging with anyone who has a join date more recent than October 2020 or posters with long dormant accounts that have suddenly sprung to life in the past few months, accounts which now post almost exclusively and extremely on covid


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  • #3487
    PCeeeee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    Not to state the obvious but hit the ignore button. Does wonders. You wouldn't engage with these people in real life, why bother here.


  • #3488
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    That's not what you said. Maybe you yourself should deal with the fact you were making assertions that were totally false. In case it wasn't clear enough for you: People are not admitted because they choose to be or are scared. Hospital admission aren't akin to the hackneyed panic buying of toilet rolls. Admissions don't increase in line with a scare story on RTE. If a person is clinically ill enough to be admitted to hospital they should not be trying to ride it out at home.

    It's exactly what I am saying. Not everybody goes to hospital when advised to. The thoughts of there being no beds and RTE in full George Lee mode though will influence their decision.

    The same as they panicked over bread.

    It's human nature, people panic.


  • #3489
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    So ****ing annoyed. Down at Blackrock Village at the Marina in Cork earlier enjoying nice weather, coffee and a lovely buzz. Not busy, everyone sitting spaced out in great form enjoying themselves. Three lads busking, playing nice chilled out music. An ideal mid-day treat.

    Then two guards came along and moved them on. Killed the atmosphere immediately and lots of people went away.

    Livid. I know they've got a job to do too but it's still really annoying. They went after the low hanging fruit today IMO

    "covid doesn't take easter off" the covideers will say.


  • #3490
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    covidrelease wrote: »
    Not everybody goes to hospital when advised to by their GP

    Fact. Deal with it.

    Not everybody who goes to hospital on the advice of their GP gets admitted.


  • #3491
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    covidrelease wrote: »
    It's exactly what I am saying. Not everybody goes to hospital when advised to. The thoughts of there being no beds and RTE in full George Lee mode though will influence their decision.

    The same as they panicked over bread.

    It's human nature, people panic.

    Now it's like the bread.!!!

    Good luck down in that deep hole.


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  • #3492
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Now it's like the bread.!!!

    Good luck down in that deep hole.

    So you accept not everybody goes to hospital when a doctor advises them to?


  • #3493
    FionnK86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭FionnK86


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    So ****ing annoyed. Down at Blackrock Village at the Marina in Cork earlier enjoying nice weather, coffee and a lovely buzz. Not busy, everyone sitting spaced out in great form enjoying themselves. Three lads busking, playing nice chilled out music. An ideal mid-day treat.

    Then two guards came along and moved them on. Killed the atmosphere immediately and lots of people went away.

    Livid. I know they've got a job to do too but it's still really annoying. They went after the low hanging fruit today IMO

    Better than hearing dodgy versions of wonderwall


  • #3494
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    covidrelease wrote: »
    So you accept not everybody goes to hospital when a doctor advises them to?
    I thought you said they were desperate to get into hospital?


  • #3495
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Ficheall wrote: »
    I thought you said they were desperate to get into hospital?

    Apparently only when RTE scares them and after they have bought bread and toilet rolls.

    You couldn't make the twisting and turning up.


  • #3496
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Outbreak of the Brazlian variant it seems with an NHL team in Vancounver.

    https://twitter.com/TSNHockey/status/1378210851698642946


  • #3497
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,784 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    shtpEdthePlum wrote: »
    Absolutely slanders vaccination as a solution and then speculates that poor uptake in the population might delay our country's exit from lockdown. You couldn't make it up.

    I'm sick of these melancholic misery peddlers.

    The scientists at NPHET with their own editorials now.

    It was two bit economists getting undue exposure a decade ago and now it's the turn of two bit "health officials"..


  • #3498
    boardise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,658 ✭✭✭boardise


    jackboy wrote: »
    Not really, I am talking about NPHET statements.

    Masks don’t work then masks must be compulsory.

    Vaccines will end the pandemic then vaccines won’t end the pandemic.[/QUO

    I must say I never heard anyone claim the 'vaccines will end the pandemic' nor would I expect to.
    What I did hear was that mass vaccination would offer a good chance of reducing death and serious illness ,enabling a gradual return to more normal modes of living -but that caution would still be needed for some time .
    We need to avoid extreme overblown claims and slogans.


  • #3499
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    boardise wrote: »
    I must say I never heard anyone claim the 'vaccines will end the pandemic' nor would I expect to.
    This forum, at least, has had loads of people claiming exactly that..


  • #3500
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭jackboy


    boardise wrote: »
    We need to avoid extreme overblown claims and slogans.

    That is how NPHET have behaved for the last year. Almost nothing has been explained in a clear honest way. Instead they have tried to manipulate us with exaggerations and sometimes with dubious claims.


  • #3501
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    .


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  • #3502
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Jaysus.

    The US has blocked production of the Oxford AstraZeneca jab at a compromised manufacturing plant in Baltimore after a mix-up ruined 15 million doses of another vaccine.

    Johnson & Johnson, the American drugmaker, will take charge of the factory after a sub-contractor spoiled millions of doses of their vaccine.

    Emergent BioSolutions accidentally mixed up the ingredients with those for the vaccine made by the Anglo-Swedish firm AstraZeneca which was developed in partnership with Oxford University.

    The move by the Biden administration is designed to stop any further risk of contamination at the plant and means that no more AstraZeneca jabs can be produced there.

    The mistake meant that some 15 million doses of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine were contaminated, although this was caught before any of the affected doses were packaged or shipped. However, the US government has since decided that Johnson & Johnson should take control of the Baltimore plant to avoid any further mishaps.


  • #3503
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭political analyst


    In the Sunday Indo, Maeve Sheehan wrote that, in Enniscorthy, two gardaí attended, before the ambulance arrived, to a patient who had a suspected heart attack and began CPR and administered mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

    The GRA said that the gardaí were told later that evening that the patient had Covid and that they had been dangerously exposed to it. The patient later died.

    Does An Garda Síochána not have HypaGuard face shields, which can be used for mouth-to-mouth resuscitation? I've seen those shields being used for resuscitation on The Bill.

    https://www.safetyfirstaid.co.uk/cpr/hypaguard-face-shielda501/


  • #3504
    eigrod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,112 ✭✭✭eigrod


    political analyst wrote: »
    In the Sunday Indo, Maeve Sheehan wrote that, in Enniscorthy, two gardaí attended, before the ambulance arrived, to a patient who had a suspected heart attack and began CPR and administered mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

    The GRA said that the gardaí were told later that evening that the patient had Covid and that they had been dangerously exposed to it. The patient later died.

    Does An Garda Síochána not have HypaGuard face shields, which can be used for mouth-to-mouth resuscitation? I've seen those shields being used for resuscitation on The Bill.

    https://www.safetyfirstaid.co.uk/cpr/hypaguard-face-shielda501/

    That’s really strange- I understood mouth to mouth was no longer part of CPR and that it was compressions only? Last 2 refresher first aid courses I did, that’s what we were taught.


  • #3505
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    political analyst wrote:
    Does An Garda Síochána not have HypaGuard face shields, which can be used for mouth-to-mouth resuscitation? I've seen those shields being used for resuscitation on The Bill.
    They may have had them but like everything else in this country they were probably stopped to save money.

    I'd love to get the figure of how much we are paying public servants whose only job is to find ways to cut costs on the public sector. I'd suspect they are being paid more than their cost cutting saves.


  • #3506
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    eagle eye wrote: »
    NPHET are scientists and medical professionals whose job is to study data and make math based recommendations.

    They don't rule the country, the government do that.

    Any issues you have with lockdowns, masks etc. should be directed at the decision makers not advisers.

    Remember on a couple of occasions when Varadkar and Martin ignored the advice from NPHET and how bad things got?

    Shouldn’t have to be pointed out again but NPHET have been calling for mandatory quarantine since last May and retroactive contact tracing since August.

    Both have been ignored until very recently. Yet some spoofers here want to peddle the nonsense that NPHET are the ones running the country.

    They fall for the bull**** from the government because they hide behind NPHET’s recommendations when it suits them instead of actively working with them.

    This idea that NPHET love the spotlight is bollocks as well. Both Ronan Glynn and Philip Nolan have made it very clear they’re both fed up with this.

    However that would require the nay-sayers here to actually watch the briefings but they don’t, instead they try to whip people up into a frenzy by taking quotes from the likes of Ronan Glynn completely out of context.

    When they realise just how out of context it is, they’ll blame the media but will do it all again because they can’t be arsed listening to what they have to say themselves.


  • #3507
    eigrod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,112 ✭✭✭eigrod


    https://twitter.com/dublinlive/status/1378727678279360512?s=21


  • #3508
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    457 new cases
    3 deaths


    No swab data on Sundays so don't know if numbers are good or bad or backlog


  • #3509
    Galwayhurl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Galwayhurl


    eigrod wrote: »
    That’s really strange- I understood mouth to mouth was no longer part of CPR and that it was compressions only? Last 2 refresher first aid courses I did, that’s what we were taught.

    Huh? Apart from keeping the heart going, the main reason for CPR is to prevent loss of oxygen to the brain.


  • #3510
    Curious_Case
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Galwayhurl wrote: »
    Huh? Apart from keeping the heart going, the main reason for CPR is to prevent loss of oxygen to the brain.

    Think I heard the same thing (possibly in relation to the George Floyd case)

    Maybe chest compressions alone are sufficient for pumping heart AND pumping lungs ???


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  • #3511
    ddarcy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ddarcy


    Galwayhurl wrote: »
    Huh? Apart from keeping the heart going, the main reason for CPR is to prevent loss of oxygen to the brain.

    That’s correct mouth to mouth resuscitation is no longer deemed necessary/ part of CPR courses. It was when I first did it 15 years ago, but no longer. I was actually surprised by that.


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