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  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Smilinpolitely


    Looks like I have commented enough to post some pics.
    Here is what I started with


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭cletus


    Great stuff. Throw up more pictures as you go. Love seeing a restoration.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Smilinpolitely


    Got the primer on today. Probably won't get to paint again till next weekend. But looking forward to starting to put bits back on. Hopefully soon


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭cletus


    As regards websites to buy parts from

    https://www.bike-components.de/en/

    https://www.bike24.com/


    would be two that get used here, although there are others as well.

    There are a number of English sites, but I don't know how things stand with Brexit

    There's also Amazon, of course


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Delighted to see another mad man take on a project, hopefully your parts are easier death with than mine!

    I didn't get any further with my cranks this weekend, too much work to be done around the house and garden unfortunately.

    I was looking at my bottom bracket and it seems I need a British thread, 1.37-24t.
    I measured the head tube and the inner diameter seems to be about 32mm, I need to grab a new vernier caliper to make sure of that as.my old one has grown legs. That's different to the 30mm outer of the JIS headset I thought I needed... This bike is a mystery.


    I got a half hour this morning get more paint off at least, I'm at the stage of using hand held wire brushes to remove the final, awkward spots, revealing lots of nice brazing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭cletus


    Lidl had digital calipers recently. They're not Mityotoyo's, but I'm sure they'd be fine for what you need.

    They were a tenner. I was thinking of picking one up to make a DRO for my bench drill


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    You've said the M word now and they're only about €30 more! :pac:

    I also don't do digital, batteries are faff and I don't trust that they stay accurate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭cletus


    Where are you getting Mityotoyo's for €40, and can I have one, please :)

    Edit: I see you said analogue, apologies, digital ones are €200 plus


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Well I tried it the old fashioned way, the new fashioned way and I've wrecked some drill bits and a spanner. I'm starting to think I'll just need to buy new cranks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Well I tried it the old fashioned way, the new fashioned way and I've wrecked some drill bits and a spanner. I'm starting to think I'll just need to buy new cranks.

    IMG-20210330-200331.jpg
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    IMG-20210330-200311.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭cletus


    I'm sure you have, but on the off chance, have you put any heat in it?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,681 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    he did mention using heat previously.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Yeah, I've had a lot of heat in them but with a small enough torch as I didn't want to strain the aluminum.
    I guess I could go at it with a bigger torch and a new spanner before shelling out, I really do want to use the original cranks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭cletus


    CianRyan wrote: »
    Yeah, I've had a lot of heat in them but with a small enough torch as I didn't want to strain the aluminum.
    I guess I could go at it with a bigger torch and a new spanner before shelling out, I really do want to use the original cranks.

    Have you a bench vice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    I have an excellent vice but I am yet to build a bench to mount it on. :pac:
    I'm going to have to get around to her dad's workshop and use his vice and piller drill this weekend.
    Ill stock up on gas too and melt these cranks if I can't separate them!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    * LIVE UPDATE*

    The pedals are off the cranks. They were cross threaded, I'll try re cutting them but eh, I'm doubt full.

    IMG-20210403-182427.jpg
    IMG-20210403-182457.jpg
    IMG-20210403-182502.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭cletus


    Job


  • Registered Users Posts: 976 ✭✭✭8valve


    CianRyan wrote: »
    * LIVE UPDATE*

    The pedals are off the cranks. They were cross threaded, I'll try re cutting them but eh, I'm doubt full.

    IMG-20210403-182427.jpg
    IMG-20210403-182457.jpg
    IMG-20210403-182502.jpg


    Fair play; perseverance paid off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Perseverance, a bigger blow touch and s 3 foot slip bar. :pac:

    I better start ordering parts, the frame is nearly painless. I'm just sanding down the lugs and drop outs to finish the awkward spots, then I'll work up to about 2000g sand paper over the whole frame, metal polish and give it a ceramic coating to protect it.

    Better get started in the wheels too...


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭cletus


    CianRyan wrote: »
    Perseverance, a bigger blow torch and s 3 foot slip bar. :pac:

    YESS!! Moar hot is better










    Also, fixed your spelling


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Who said I used a torch? Haha


  • Registered Users Posts: 976 ✭✭✭8valve


    cletus wrote: »
    YESS!! Moar hot is better










    Also, fixed your spelling


    ''Don't force it...just use a bigger hammer'' - Every CIE mechanic, ever.


    According to my father, who worked for them for 30-odd years.


    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭cletus


    8valve wrote: »
    ''Don't force it...just use a bigger hammer'' - Every CIE mechanic, ever.


    According to my father, who worked for them for 30-odd years.


    :D


    They're not hammers, they're persuaders...


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭cletus


    CianRyan wrote: »
    Who said I used a torch? Haha

    I'm not sure if I want to know what a blow touch is, so...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    How hot did they have to be?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,370 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    About 1430c, I'd say you could have lit a match by sanding close to them.
    I tried it in stages but it wasn't until I could feel the heat beside them that they budged.
    40 years of crossed threaded electrolysis will do that.

    I was trying to get the bottom bracket free using various circlip pliars but nah, gonna need the right tool for the job. Praying that's not cross threaded too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭cletus


    Cian, think I said it to you before, I made up a pair of bb pliers. They look the same size as your one, send me an address and I'll post them out


  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭ARX


    8valve wrote: »
    ''Don't force it...just use a bigger hammer'' - Every CIE mechanic, ever.


    According to my father, who worked for them for 30-odd years.


    :D

    So did mine! Are we long-lost brothers?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Smilinpolitely


    Nice work cian. Great to see the pedals off.
    I had a productive week. Finished the painting, I'm reasonably happy with the finish considering it was done outside. I even managed to get the bottom bracket and front fork reattached today.


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