Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

Sweet.Science · 01-04-2021 02:49PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Good move

https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1377618096274432003

Big step . Will allow a lot of activities to resume in the summer . Including bigger events

Turtwig · 01-04-2021 02:52PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Big step . Will allow a lot of activities to resume in the summer . Including bigger events

Will it? How?

Antigen's testing really seems to be overstated imo. Everyone wants it to be something that so far at least I understand it hasn't yet proved it can actually be. The necessary reliability isn't there?

Open to correction.

Eod100 · 01-04-2021 02:53PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Big step . Will allow a lot of activities to resume in the summer . Including bigger events

Not sure why it wasnt brought in sooner tbh, get its not as good as pcr but when its a choice between antigen and no test whatsoever seems like a no brainer.

ednwireland · 01-04-2021 02:55PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Not sure why it wasnt brought in sooner tbh, get its not as good as pcr but when its a choice between antigen and no test whatsoever seems like a no brainer.

thought nphet were against it last year ? too much hope or somethinhg

Sweet.Science · 01-04-2021 02:57PM

Turtwig wrote: »

Will it? How?

Antigen's testing really seems to be overstated imo. Everyone wants it to be something that so far at least I understand it hasn't yet proved it can actually be. The necessary reliability isn't there?

Open to correction.

Just say a final in Croke Park in September . You could have rapid testing tents before you enter the stadium . Or for concerts etc

01-04-2021 02:57PM

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Vaccines work

Indeed. And Luke O’Neill this morning talked through the research now from Israel and the US that shows that Pfizer really substantially reduces transmission. AZ results not out yet but is expected to be the same

Eod100 · 01-04-2021 02:58PM

Turtwig wrote: »

Will it? How?

Antigen's testing really seems to be overstated imo. Everyone wants it to be something that so far at least I understand it hasn't yet proved it can actually be. The necessary reliability isn't there?

Open to correction.

Looks like it will have a role in these areas to start with at least, maybe over time will be expanded in long term.

https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1377620970345746444

Banana Republic 1 · 01-04-2021 02:58PM

Faugheen wrote: »

What the actual sh*te are you talking about?

These walk-in testing centres are to find asymptomatic cases.

If you’re a close contact and you are asymptomatic, you get tested.

Desperate posting in here lately.

Once again people don’t read the post in context of the conversation that proceeded and or the follow up reply.

“15 months on Ireland starts it first dedicated no appointment walk in test centre”

Away With The Fairies · 01-04-2021 03:00PM

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Vaccines work

I'm a bit nervous taking a new mRNA vaccine but give it to me now.

is_that_so · 01-04-2021 03:26PM

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Once again people don’t read the post in context of the conversation that proceeded and or the follow up reply.

“15 months on Ireland starts it first dedicated no appointment walk in test centre”

15 months ago was Wednesday, 1 January 2020 so what's your point? COVID didn't hit us till March, which was 13 months ago.

01-04-2021 03:31PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Just say a final in Croke Park in September . You could have rapid testing tents before you enter the stadium . Or for concerts etc

But if they have a larger margin for error than normal testing I'm not sure how useful this is? If you've 80,000 people with a decent margin for error you could easily be letting people into the stadium with false negatives

Lucas Hood · 01-04-2021 03:34PM

553 positive swabs, 2.83% positivity on 19,535 tests.
7 day test positivity is 3.2%.

Probably looking at 700ish cases tonight though considering cases were a lot lower than swabs yesterday.

cjyid · 01-04-2021 03:41PM

Below 3% again. Nice.

Wolf359f · 01-04-2021 03:46PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

553 positive swabs, 2.83% positivity on 19,535 tests.
7 day test positivity is 3.2%.

Probably looking at 700ish cases tonight though considering cases were a lot lower than swabs yesterday.

7 Day Swab Averages:
01/04: 582 (-3.92%)
24/03: 606 (+13.98%)
18/03: 531 (+2.28%)
11/03: 520

01-04-2021 03:48PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

553 positive swabs, 2.83% positivity on 19,535 tests.
7 day test positivity is 3.2%.

Probably looking at 700ish cases tonight though considering cases were a lot lower than swabs yesterday.

I reckon yesterday a lot of the positive tests from the new pop up centres might have filtered through. Anyone who has a positive test in the previous 12 weeks is not reported as positive case. With standard testing they have this information up front and those being tested are symptomatic or close contacts. In the pop up centres they probably have to verify the history of the individual before confirming positive, possibly resulting in bulk reporting.

Otherwise the data look like an anomoly

timsey tiger · 01-04-2021 03:51PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

553 positive swabs, 2.83% positivity on 19,535 tests.
7 day test positivity is 3.2%.

Probably looking at 700ish cases tonight though considering cases were a lot lower than swabs yesterday.

Possibly, upto ~850, but it sometimes takes a couple of days for it to wash out.

timsey tiger · 01-04-2021 03:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I reckon yesterday a lot of the positive tests from the new pop centres might have filtered through. Anyone who has a positive test in the previous 12 weeks is not reported as positive case. With standard testing they have this information up front and those being tested are symptomatic or close contacts. In the pop up centres they probably have to verify the history of the individual before confirming positive, possibly resulting in bulk reporting.

Otherwise the data look like an anomoly

Number of swabs was only 11 higher than the number for the week before. The number of cases was issued earlier than normal, quite possible that some of the case number data is missing from yesterdays total.

KrustyUCC · 01-04-2021 03:55PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

553 positive swabs, 2.83% positivity on 19,535 tests.
7 day test positivity is 3.2%.

Probably looking at 700ish cases tonight though considering cases were a lot lower than swabs yesterday.

For comparison to last week

https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1375105197832339458

pauldry · 01-04-2021 03:59PM

Yeah it will be high today and therell be a media frenzy.

:mad:

They should say 750 new cases today but of tests over 97% negative!

Arturo Delgado · 01-04-2021 03:59PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

553 positive swabs, 2.83% positivity on 19,535 tests.
7 day test positivity is 3.2%.

Probably looking at 700ish cases tonight though considering cases were a lot lower than swabs yesterday.

It doesn't matter how many cases there are, hospital cases are falling consistently, which means we're not seeing these cases being serious. So, to me that means the vaccination of the top tier vulnerable, is working, they are not catching it. If NPHET don't highlight the positives in that, they should take a back seat.

Amirani · 01-04-2021 04:01PM

timsey tiger wrote: »

Number of swabs was only 11 higher than the number for the week before. The number of cases was issued earlier than normal, quite possible that some of the case number data is missing from yesterdays total.

Nah, the actual numbers get issued by the HPSC between 09:00-10:00 most days (covers up to midnight). The timing of them being communicated to the media and the public in the afternoon doesn't impact them.

is_that_so · 01-04-2021 04:01PM

274 in hospital and 63 in ICU.

timsey tiger · 01-04-2021 04:04PM

Arturo Delgado wrote: »

It doesn't matter how many cases there are, hospital cases are falling consistently, which means we're not seeing these cases being serious. So, to me that means the vaccination of the top tier vulnerable, is working, they are not catching it. If NPHET don't highlight the positives in that, they should take a back seat.

It still matters, since high numbers even in the more resistent cohorts eventually spill over into the more at risk groups. Obviously as the vaccines roll out this becomes more of an issue, but we're hardly there yet.

timsey tiger · 01-04-2021 04:05PM

Amirani wrote: »

Nah, the actual numbers get issued by the HPSC between 09:00-10:00 most days (covers up to midnight). The timing of them being communicated to the media and the public in the afternoon doesn't impact them.

Thanks, I did not know that.

Sweet.Science · 01-04-2021 04:06PM

AdamD wrote: »

But if they have a larger margin for error than normal testing I'm not sure how useful this is? If you've 80,000 people with a decent margin for error you could easily be letting people into the stadium with false negatives

Most of the population will be vaccinated by the end of the summer. There will be increased scope for error . This will just be an extra security blanket thrown on top

jammiedodgers · 01-04-2021 04:16PM

Sorry if it's been asked and answered already, but is there any data on positivity rate from the walk in centres alone?

is_that_so · 01-04-2021 04:18PM

timsey tiger wrote: »

Well, we'll see. Will it transpire that EU production will be diverted to cover US shortfall, like AZ did for the UK? I wouldn't be surprised, they all know that Useless Van Del Leyen won't stop them and Biden has made promises.

I suspect the pharma industry muscled in of MM and other leaders (with large pharma sectors) to stop the EU export ban.

One really doesn't muscle in on the EU, they can do as suits them when it suits them. Talk them down on this sure.

The J&J story is more about US delays, but not necessarily by that much. The single shot makes it less of a problem anyway. They will use US facilities and Merck are also going to help. I don't think you can compare the shambles of an absolute newbie with setbacks like this for established vaccine makers.

01-04-2021 04:42PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coombe-doctor-brought-covid-19-vaccines-home-for-family-report-finds-1.4526397?mode=amp

Bold medic!

ElTel · 01-04-2021 04:44PM

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Sorry if it's been asked and answered already, but is there any data on positivity rate from the walk in centres alone?

3% positivity from 14k tested.
George Lee said 5% positivity in the 15-24 age group I think as well.

Hopefully not waiting too long on their close contact numbers and ststs.

iamwhoiam · 01-04-2021 04:44PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coombe-doctor-brought-covid-19-vaccines-home-for-family-report-finds-1.4526397?mode=amp

Bold medic!

Criminal medic .

Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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