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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #2702
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I know of someone who got their licence extended by 8 months on account of COVID.

    To be fair yes they did for active full licences. But not everyone has one of those, and others like me had ones which had lapsed.

    Just to be clear my issue is not with Transport and RSA, it is with Welfare and the public services card. The latter is needed to access many online services and requires a face to face meeting.


  • #2703
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    Now after 15 months of denial.

    Surveillance testing of healthcare workers was ongoing throughout. Meat plants added. A symptomatic contact tracing has been underway since June last


  • #2704
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    They’ll have to lift some of the restrictions, just a token measure; enough to blame the increase in cases when the schools fully open again.

    Yeh.

    Meanwhile in France they’re closing schools for 3 weeks. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56597319


  • #2705
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    prunudo wrote: »
    Tbh, I've no idea whats involved, just making the point that people need to get on top of stuff in advance, all to easy to do nothing and then bitch and moan in 4 weeks time when you can't access a system. Maybe you won't need mygov registration but tbh, it's not bad thing to be signed up to anyway, never know when you may need to avail of any amount of welfare services.
    More and more government services are becoming digitised, rightly or wrongly its the way things are going.

    Edit, the extra posts happened as I was typing.
    Can they not do it over the phone, nearly sure I applied online for my card.

    No problem with digitised services and Revenue has shown the way with this. Thankfully they did not link their services to Mygov and the PPS card.

    I appreciate there are issues with GDPR with the public services card - although reading this https://www.dataprotection.ie/en/news-media/press-releases/dpc-statement-matters-pertaining-public-services-card would not give anyone much confidence.


  • #2706
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    prunudo wrote: »
    Can they not do it over the phone, nearly sure I applied online for my card.
    Not at the moment - have to attend a meeting with ID etc, and you can't book a meeting, just the walk-in, which has reduced hours due to the pandemic.



    I, too, wanted it to renew my learner permit - but now instead of paying my 35e to renew online, I've just booked an in-person meeting to go to the driving centre 6km away, having first had to find somewhere to print out an application form, so I can bring them the form for them to copy my (unchanged) details into their system... Decreases the likelihood of some third party maliciously renewing my licence for me, I suppose.
    Parts of the website say only essential workers (not me) can attend, others don't specify, so who knows. Bleh.


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  • #2707
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,222 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Not at the moment - have to attend a meeting with ID etc, and you can't book a meeting, just the walk-in, which has reduced hours due to the pandemic.



    I, too, wanted it to renew my learner permit - but now instead of paying my 35e to renew online, I've just booked an in-person meeting to go to the driving centre 6km away, having first had to find somewhere to print out an application form, so I can bring them the form for them to copy my (unchanged) details into their system... Decreases the likelihood of some third party maliciously renewing my licence for me, I suppose.
    Parts of the website say only essential workers (not me) can attend, others don't specify, so who knows. Bleh.

    We really do reap what we sow in this country, last few posts just show the disconnect between the people in cushy civil servant jobs who have no idea on how the reality of the rules they make impact people in the real world.


  • #2708
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Surveillance testing of healthcare workers was ongoing throughout. Meat plants added. A symptomatic contact tracing has been underway since June last

    My mother work in HSE and they were tested once every two weeks that is not sufficient. Also contact tracing only went back three days at most which also is not sufficient.


  • #2709
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Yeh.

    Meanwhile in France they’re closing schools for 3 weeks. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56597319

    10% of case in France are showing the South African variant.


  • #2710
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    More walk-ins opening today and tomorrow.
    They will start operating at locations in Dublin and Meath. Test centres will be operational in counties Kildare, Galway and Dublin from Friday morning.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0331/1207343-covid-test-centres/


  • #2711
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    My mother work in HSE and they were tested once every two weeks that is not sufficient. Also contact tracing only went back three days at most which also is not sufficient.

    3 days is sufficient to identify if transmission from the index case occurred. If you are looking to identify a symptomatic source of infection, it’s not, however the likelihood is that the source of infection will test negative by the time the index case has been identified


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  • #2712
    Morries Wigs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 199 ✭✭Morries Wigs


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    They’ll have to lift some of the restrictions, just a token measure; enough to blame the increase in cases when the schools fully open again.

    spot on and when the kids bring it back home theyll call it community spreading from people enjoying themselves


  • #2713
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 543 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    10% of case in France are showing the South African variant.

    Nope. The B.1.351 and P.1 variants together make up about 5% of French cases and have been pretty stable at that number for a few weeks. They're also heavily clustered in certain areas compared to B.1.1.7 which is on the ascendancy nationwide.


  • #2714
    Morries Wigs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 199 ✭✭Morries Wigs


    Hardyn wrote: »
    Nope. The B.1.351 and P.1 variants together make up about 5% of French cases and have been pretty stable at that number for a few weeks. They're also heavily clustered in certain areas compared to B.1.1.7 which is on the ascendancy nationwide.

    Nice pwn


  • #2715
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    J&J SNAFU in the US - 15m doses wasted.

    Workers at a plant in Baltimore in the United States manufacturing two coronavirus vaccines accidentally conflated the ingredients several weeks ago, contaminating as many as 15 million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine and forcing regulators to delay authorisation of the plant’s production lines.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/millions-of-johnson-johnson-vaccines-ruined-in-us-factory-mix-up-1.4525551


  • #2716
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    If you are looking to identify a symptomatic source of infection, it’s not,

    Which is the exact point I raised.
    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    3 days is sufficient to identify if transmission from the index case occurred.

    If you want to close the case file quickly it is. Every country that goes back 14 days is wasting there time in that case so, if only they copied Ireland...


  • #2717
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Hardyn wrote: »
    Nope. The B.1.351 and P.1 variants together make up about 5% of French cases and have been pretty stable at that number for a few weeks. They're also heavily clustered in certain areas compared to B.1.1.7 which is on the ascendancy nationwide.

    You stick to that line so


  • #2718
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,629 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    is_that_so wrote: »
    J&J SNAFU in the US - 15m doses wasted.




    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/millions-of-johnson-johnson-vaccines-ruined-in-us-factory-mix-up-1.4525551

    Hopefully that doesnt affect us too much


  • #2719
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Shouldn't affect us at all as no vaccines are exported from the US. Though there were rumours that some batches would have to be sent to the US to be "finished" before arriving back in the EU, so I don't know if J&J will take them to replenish US stocks instead.


  • #2720
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Hopefully that doesnt affect us too much
    Seems to be US deliveries only, the EU exports are not affected by this. We'll also be getting it from the Netherlands.


  • #2721
    Sobit1964
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Amazing difference between the UK/Ireland and the rest of the continent.

    While the continent is getting hammered with the third wave, its getting ever more difficult to persuade and find people willing to be vaccinated. Poland [current plague capital of the EU] opened registration for 40+ year olds today as the 60+ group had slowed down so much. Similar stories in Germany and France.


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  • #2722
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    Amazing difference between the UK/Ireland and the rest of the continent.

    While the continent is getting hammered with the third wave, its getting ever more difficult to persuade and find people willing to be vaccinated. Poland [current plague capital of the EU] opened registration for 40+ year olds today as the 60+ group had slowed down so much. Similar stories in Germany and France.
    There may be a case in some countries to invert the age groups, by targeting the most active groups socially.


  • #2723
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Seems to be US deliveries only, the EU exports are not affected by this. We'll also be getting it from the Netherlands.

    Well, we'll see. Will it transpire that EU production will be diverted to cover US shortfall, like AZ did for the UK? I wouldn't be surprised, they all know that Useless Van Del Leyen won't stop them and Biden has made promises.

    I suspect the pharma industry muscled in of MM and other leaders (with large pharma sectors) to stop the EU export ban.


  • #2724
    CoronaBlocker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭CoronaBlocker


    Question: My neighbour says her 3 year old had a classmate in creche test positive. That kid was taken out (of creche) but now her own three year old has a runny nose. What exactly is protocol there for my neighbour and her kid? Does she need to isolate and get tests done? Is this where they say school kids aren't close contacts and don't need to isolate/be tested?

    I don't have kids so only half-listened to that bit.


  • #2725
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,735 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    CoronaBlocker wrote: »
    Question: My neighbour says her 3 year old had a classmate in creche test positive. That kid was taken out (of creche) but now her own three year old has a runny nose. What exactly is protocol there for my neighbour and her kid? Does she need to isolate and get tests done? Is this where they say school kids aren't close contacts and don't need to isolate/be tested?

    I don't have kids so only half-listened to that bit.
    She rings her gp straight away and let them decide.

    To thine own self be true



  • #2726
    CoronaBlocker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭CoronaBlocker


    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    She rings her gp straight away and let them decide.

    Ahh good. I suggested that as a course of action just in case so am happy with that then. Just wasn't really sure because you hear a lot about schools, close-contacts and not being... so on and so forth, but I normally tune out as I said. Thanks.


  • #2727
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Interesting

    Very interesting but remember not everyone admitted to hospital for covid19 in the study had pneumonia.

    What's the disease burden from pneumonia compared to covid19?

    I think the paper shows there is there are a lot more people now who have these conditions and will continue to be a burden on the already dysfunctional health system.

    https://twitter.com/Dr2NisreenAlwan/status/1377566549666627585?s=20


  • #2728
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    When they say 80% of the population vaccinated by the end of June. Do they mean 80% of adults or 80% of the entire population?

    Anyone?


  • #2729
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Anyone?

    Michael Martin said all over 70s will be vaccinated in 7-8 weeks time, in the same speech he said 80% of the population will be offered a vaccine by June. Makes no sense


  • #2730
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Anyone?

    Has to be adults, otherwise you'd need practically 100% of adults vaccinated to make up 80% overall, if you even could. Got to be close ot 20% of pop. under 18.


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  • #2731
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    Michael Martin said all over 70s will be vaccinated in 7-8 weeks time, in the same speech he said 80% of the population will be offered a vaccine by June. Makes no sense

    Read carefully

    will be offered a vaccine by June.

    Doesn't say received, classic PR machine at work, careful wording which most will read in a more positive way. It really means we will have scheduled 80% of the appointments to get vaccinated


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