Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

faceman · 31-03-2021 04:12PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

where does this leave the passport office?!

It’s still on Lower Mount St, it hasn’t moved

It’s a fair question though given the level system is gone. When does passport printing resume?

31-03-2021 04:17PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

I still cannot understand why the US would be put on a quarantine list when so many people there are fully vaccinated?

Not a chance that the US goes on the list. By the time the logistics and politics are sorted for these additional countries tone added, there'll be about 6 weeks before the adult population is vaccinated (those that want to be, anyway)

And then the action becomes completely disproportionate

ninebeanrows · 31-03-2021 04:19PM

faceman wrote: »

It’s still on Lower Mount St, it hasn’t moved

It’s a fair question though given the level system is gone. When does passport printing resume?

standard renewals are being processed through online system.

different story for document related renewals etc...but i am guessing seen as the standard renewals are being processed the backlog will not be too long once reopened.

Theboinkmaster · 31-03-2021 04:28PM

faceman wrote: »

It’s still on Lower Mount St, it hasn’t moved

It’s a fair question though given the level system is gone. When does passport printing resume?

I tracked my application and there was an update today 31 March saying:

Your application is being processed.

Says now due 8th April.

I've never tracked it before so not sure if this is some kind of weekly update whereby it just rolls forward a week?

Or else this is a genuine update and they have actually started to process it?

On twitter they're saying standard adult renewals are being done and 20,000 have been done since December.

So wonder have they resumed service for passports that require documentation like mine? It's a bid coincidental that my tracking has been updated the day after the new government plan.

But maybe it's automatic and next week on 8th April it will just roll forward onto 15 April.

acequion · 31-03-2021 05:23PM

Has anymore been said since about this test on arrival? Is it a certainty or just more spoofing by Varadkar?

Dr. Em · 31-03-2021 05:50PM

faceman wrote: »

I agree with a lot do what your saying although I doubt Ireland will be swinging the doors open to tourism before the rest of the EU. I think the U.K. are more open to allowing international travel too

Other than that i can’t find any reason to launch vociferous attacks on you unfortunately

No vociferous attacks? I'm disappointed!

Ireland will likely have different restrictions to the UK, but 'less' or 'more' might depend on your location. If cases continue to rise across northern Europe, the UK is bound to take advantage of being outside the EU to block all travel from those countries, except for UK and probably Irish citizens. I could even see them allowing travel to sun destinations, but trying not to reciprocate for non-residents. Ireland will have to allow EU travel on the same terms as it allows travel for Irish citizens/residents, when the restrictions are relaxed. I can't see us cutting off travel from the US at this date either, and we are the only ones in the EU not to ban flights from most non-EU countries. So if the government does sign up to the vaccine green card, we will probably end up being the most open country in the EU again!
(Double emphasis on 'if'.)

SusanC10 · 31-03-2021 06:06PM

Is there a List of the proposed 43 Countries to join the List ?

31-03-2021 06:34PM

ninebeanrows wrote: »

You'd need to self isolate on return.

You could avoid procedure in relation to this by returning via Belfast or a ferry into NI

Well technically you still need to quarantine. If you are caught seems unlikely.

Gael23 wrote: »

Yes won’t happen. Contravenes freedom of movement in the EU

How many times must this be put to bed? You do not have an unquestionable right to move freely around the EU. Thats been stated time and time again since all this started.

31-03-2021 06:36PM

acequion wrote: »

Has anymore been said since about this test on arrival? Is it a certainty or just more spoofing by Varadkar?

Very much a throw away comment wasnt it? Along with the 43 additional countries.

Heaven forbid a well thought out plan with the required public information could go hand in hand with a press conferance :rolleyes:

faceman · 31-03-2021 08:10PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

How many times must this be put to bed? You do not have an unquestionable right to move freely around the EU. Thats been stated time and time again since all this started.

The AG is concerned....

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/attorney-general-warnshealth-minister-it-may-be-illegal-to-charge-eu-citizens-to-stay-in-quarantine-hotels-40262921.html

Del Griffith · 31-03-2021 08:28PM

faceman wrote: »

The AG is concerned....

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/attorney-general-warnshealth-minister-it-may-be-illegal-to-charge-eu-citizens-to-stay-in-quarantine-hotels-40262921.html

Has that gob****e Donnelly actually sought to do this?

I has thought it was just a murmur from some NPHET like body. Don't know why I'm surprised, true to form

Happydays2020 · 31-03-2021 09:17PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Well technically you still need to quarantine. If you are caught seems unlikely.

How many times must this be put to bed? You do not have an unquestionable right to move freely around the EU. Thats been stated time and time again since all this started.

Well there is the TFEU, the charter of fundamental rights and thankfully the AG https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/concern-plans-to-extend-hotel-quarantine-could-breach-eu-citizens-rights-1.4525043 .... and then there is your view.

Happydays2020 · 31-03-2021 09:19PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Yes, it looks like the Minister of Trampolines has gone on a solo run with this one.

Not really ‘solo’ but he wants us to rejoin the UK.

Happydays2020 · 31-03-2021 09:25PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

Has that gob****e Donnelly actually sought to do this?

I has thought it was just a murmur from some NPHET like body. Don't know why I'm surprised, true to form

A classic from DFA....

A spokesperson for Mr Coveney said: "The required consultation with the Minister for Foreign Affairs has not happened yet.”

sy_flembeck · 31-03-2021 09:44PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

A classic from DFA....

A spokesperson for Mr Coveney said: "The required consultation with the Minister for Foreign Affairs has not happened yet.”

I read what the AG had to say to Donnelly on a few different sites today. I'm no legal eagle but I think the gist of what he said to him was 'cop the fcuk on'

Klonker · 31-03-2021 10:27PM

I'd say most of government regret bringing in hotel quarentining in the first place. They don't even agree with it, they just did it on the back of public hysteria fanned by the opposition.

31-03-2021 11:52PM

Klonker wrote: »

I'd say most of government regret bringing in hotel quarentining in the first place. They don't even agree with it, they just did it on the back of public hysteria fanned by the opposition.

I agree: which means their heart isn’t really in it, so will inevitably be a sh1tshow that is nothing more than a token gesture. It’ll be the same with these supposed PCR tests for people coming into Ireland, whether by road, ferry or plane

normanoffside · 01-04-2021 12:03AM

Klonker wrote: »

I'd say most of government regret bringing in hotel quarentining in the first place. They don't even agree with it, they just did it on the back of public hysteria fanned by the opposition.

The truth is they were really only trying to cut down on Brazilian Student immigration and the variant was a good excuse.
They have removed visa free travel from Brazil now on health grounds and you can bet it won’t be coming back any time soon.

faceman · 01-04-2021 08:00AM

Common sense may prevail after all

https://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/highlights-from-newstalk-breakfast/legal-concerns-put-the-states-mandatory-hotel-quarantine-in-jeopardy

josip · 01-04-2021 08:48AM

faceman wrote: »

Common sense may prevail after all

https://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/highlights-from-newstalk-breakfast/legal-concerns-put-the-states-mandatory-hotel-quarantine-in-jeopardy

So they had 12 months to figure this out and the AG only speaks up a week after it comes into effect?

Micky 32 · 01-04-2021 08:52AM

faceman wrote: »

Common sense may prevail after all

https://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/highlights-from-newstalk-breakfast/legal-concerns-put-the-states-mandatory-hotel-quarantine-in-jeopardy

But RTE this morning is reporting the consultation is going ahead so it’s not looking good, it’s happening they will succeed. Lets hope it will be temporary as the vaccines get rolled out.

“”Consultation is under way with the Department of Foreign Affairs on proposals to add a number of countries to mandatory hotel quarantine list, Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly has said.“”

M_Murphy57 · 01-04-2021 08:56AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

But RTE this morning is reporting the consultation is going ahead so not looking good, it’s happening they will succeed. Lets hope it will be temporary as the vaccines get rolled out.

“”Consultation is under way with the Department of Foreign Affairs on proposals to add a number of countries to mandatory hotel quarantine list, Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly has said.“”

Is the illegality charging them or imprisoning them? Because if it's the former no doubt SD will just add it to states bill that the taxpayer gets to pick up.

Plumbthedepths · 01-04-2021 09:03AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

But RTE this morning is reporting the consultation is going ahead so it’s not looking good, it’s happening they will succeed. Lets hope it will be temporary as the vaccines get rolled out.

“”Consultation is under way with the Department of Foreign Affairs on proposals to add a number of countries to mandatory hotel quarantine list, Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly has said.“”

The AG has waded in Donnelly will want to try and save face. The fact the DOF is held by FG will work in the interest of saner decisions being made.

MarkY91 · 01-04-2021 09:08AM

normanoffside wrote: »

The truth is they were really only trying to cut down on Brazilian Student immigration and the variant was a good excuse.
They have removed visa free travel from Brazil now on health grounds and you can bet it won’t be coming back any time soon.

How will I get my kebab delivered on Deliveroo with no Brazilians coming in

faceman · 01-04-2021 09:21AM

josip wrote: »

So they had 12 months to figure this out and the AG only speaks up a week after it comes into effect?

That’s not true. A process had been agreed in consultation with the AG on the creation of the initiative. Donnelly and his team didn’t follow it

acequion · 01-04-2021 10:10AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

But RTE this morning is reporting the consultation is going ahead so it’s not looking good, it’s happening they will succeed. Lets hope it will be temporary as the vaccines get rolled out.

“”Consultation is under way with the Department of Foreign Affairs on proposals to add a number of countries to mandatory hotel quarantine list, Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly has said.“”

Thats neither a bad nor good sign. Consultation with DFA was going to happen anyway. Given the AGs intervention and IBECs vocal concerns there is a reasonable chance that common sense will prevail. But I agree you'd have to be fearful given the abysmal performance so far of Donnelly.

themacattack. · 01-04-2021 12:03PM

Klonker wrote: »

I'd say most of government regret bringing in hotel quarentining in the first place. They don't even agree with it, they just did it on the back of public hysteria fanned by the opposition.

simon coveney apparently questioning adding more countries especially ones with large amount of irish people and also raising concerns about freedom of movement...thank god there is someone in government speaking up against this lunacy...if fianna fail ever come knocking on my door for votes they will be getting the hair dryer treatmeat absolute dunder-heads

acequion · 01-04-2021 12:25PM

themacattack. wrote: »

simon coveney apparently questioning adding more countries especially ones with large amount of irish people and also raising concerns about freedom of movement...thank god there is someone in government speaking up against this lunacy...if fianna fail ever come knocking on my door for votes they will be getting the hair dryer treatmeat absolute dunder-heads

I'll have the hose ready. No stray dog at the rubbish bin would have to scamper with such indignity as these imbeciles.

Plumbthedepths · 01-04-2021 12:28PM

acequion wrote: »

I'll have the hose ready. No stray dog at the rubbish bin would have to scamper with such indignity as these imbeciles.

The politicians are only acting on the advice they are given no matter how stupid or impractical it is. Sadly the ones giving the advice face no such accountability as an election. (Don't take this as a defence of politicians because it's not intended as one)

theguzman · 01-04-2021 12:29PM

normanoffside wrote: »

The truth is they were really only trying to cut down on Brazilian Student immigration and the variant was a good excuse.
They have removed visa free travel from Brazil now on health grounds and you can bet it won’t be coming back any time soon.

I highly doubt it as it was a great little cottage industry for the corrupt Fianna Fail traitors to exploit, a 2 bed apartment with four bunk beds and another bunk bed in the living room equals ten students paying €5,000 per month cash unregistered or untaxed by the lowest sort of FF&FG landlord tramps imaginable, the types that give us good landlords a bad name. Then said lowlives can exploit the students for minimum or less wages in horrible crappy jobs like fully registered Brazilian nurses doing a nurses job on caregiver wages of €11-€12 per hour in a nursing home where a family comes together to chip-in to pay €1,200 per week. The majority of the English Schools have semi-literate teachers and are only glorified visa factories and they turn out English at a Junior infants level.

The FF&FG corrupt bourgeois will get the Brazil ban lifted very soon I would say.

Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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