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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #2552
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Ouch, those swab numbers put a dampener on things. Not the worst numbers but not great either and fits with there being a plateauing of infection.


  • #2553
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Benimar wrote: »
    Ouch, those swab numbers put a dampener on things. Not the worst numbers but not great either and fits with there being a plateauing of infection.

    With 5 new walk in centres I think we can expect positive swabs to increase or plateau

    Its important not to think its armageddon when it happens.


  • #2554
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Benimar wrote: »
    Ouch, those swab numbers put a dampener on things. Not the worst numbers but not great either and fits with there being a plateauing of infection.

    Yeah it's a big jump, such a shame.
    Maybe a delay in reporting of swabs yesterday?


  • #2555
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And all those who work in the events and wedding industry. Its very difficult to have your livelihood decimated. A lot of people forget about this when they dismiss the wedding related queries.

    They dismiss them because it doesn’t impact them so therefore it doesn’t matter.

    Same people kick off about how NPHET have ruined people’s businesses as well.


  • #2556
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    With 5 new walk in centres I think we can expect positive swabs to increase or plateau

    Its important not to think its armageddon when it happens.

    Thanks for the advice, but given I don’t see a single days figures as either ‘Armageddon’ or ‘it’s over, open up’ it’s a bit wasted on me.


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  • #2557
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Yeah it's a big jump, such a shame.
    Maybe a delay in reporting of swabs yesterday?

    Cases were 17 lower than swabs yesterday, so any delay look minimal. As always, tomorrow will tell a lot regarding any backlog.


  • #2558
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1377275983535951875

    Are they just pretending vaccines don't exist?


  • #2559
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,174 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Paddy's day repercussions?


  • #2560
    Oranage2
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    jhegarty wrote: »
    Positive Swabs : 712
    Positivity Rate : 3.38%
    Tests : 21051

    High no 2 ways around it. Positivity Rate though isn't too high though still very high. I think it's just going to be a long road in lockdown till the vaccines are fully rolled out


  • #2561
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    AdamD wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1377275983535951875

    Are they just pretending vaccines don't exist?

    Watch the bloody briefing.

    Philip Nolan said that was worse case scenario if there’s a big increase in mixing. He added the caveat that if people stick by the restrictions then the vaccination rollout reduces any future risks of such an increase like the above.

    He went into clear, concise detail about this, including how in 8 weeks time if people stick to restrictions then the vaccination programme will cut a theoretical R number of 1.4 by half to 0.7. He compared this to if there was no vaccine at all.

    Watch the briefing instead of looking at a single tweet.


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  • #2562
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    AdamD wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1377275983535951875

    Are they just pretending vaccines don't exist?

    they said the same sort of thing at the start of December


  • #2563
    Goldengirl
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    AdamD wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1377275983535951875

    Are they just pretending vaccines don't exist?

    Very poor reporting by Fergal Bowers and usual bandwagon jumping by people.
    That is not what was said at the briefing at all.
    But sure have an oul pop anyhow..


  • #2564
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    AdamD wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1377275983535951875

    Are they just pretending vaccines don't exist?

    That's bizarre - assumes zero impact on transmissibility from vaccines. Why would they publish such nonsense.


  • #2565
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Watch the bloody briefing.

    Philip Nolan said that was worse case scenario if there’s a big increase in mixing. He added the caveat that if people stick by the restrictions then the vaccination rollout reduces any future risks of such a spike in cases.

    He went into clear, concise detail about this. Watch the briefing instead of looking at a single tweet.

    To be fair, RTÉ's health correspondent has posted this in a tweet. He doesn't tell you to watch the briefing, nor does he give any sort of context of said projection.

    Bit harsh to blame OP for not watching the briefing when, most people will also see this tweet in isolation.


  • #2566
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    AdamD wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1377275983535951875

    Are they just pretending vaccines don't exist?

    Clearly they are not pretending this.

    Not enough will be vaccinated by April to impact transmission to such a significant degree. Bowers is just parroting a figure too. It's a potential rise in cases if the number of social interactions increases. This may not happen.


  • #2567
    Faugheen
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    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Very poor reporting by Fergal Bowers and usual bandwagon jumping by people.
    That is not what was said at the briefing at all.
    But sure have an oul pop anyhow..

    It wasn’t bad reporting. Those were the facts that were stated at the time.

    He later tweeted this

    https://twitter.com/fergalbowers/status/1377281059423932417?s=21

    Funnily enough the poster ignored that one and posted that first one to whip up a frenzy in here.


  • #2568
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    To be fair, RTÉ's health correspondent has posted this in a tweet. He doesn't tell you to watch the briefing, nor does he give any sort of context of said projection.

    Bit harsh to blame OP for not watching the briefing when, most people will also see this tweet in isolation.

    Read my last post where the same health correspondent put that tweet into context.

    Watch the briefings instead of looking at individual tweets.


  • #2569
    External Association
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    jhegarty wrote: »
    Positive Swabs : 712
    Positivity Rate : 3.38%
    Tests : 21051

    Disappointing given case numbers. Just one day.


  • #2570
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    To be fair, RTÉ's health correspondent has posted this in a tweet. He doesn't tell you to watch the briefing, nor does he give any sort of context of said projection.

    Bit harsh to blame OP for not watching the briefing when, most people will also see this tweet in isolation.

    It's a tough one though. People here know how crappy and inept our journalists have been through this whole thing. Bowers tweets of late seem to be targeted at maximum outrage.


  • #2571
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Benimar wrote: »
    Thanks for the advice, but given I don’t see a single days figures as either ‘Armageddon’ or ‘it’s over, open up’ it’s a bit wasted on me.

    I especially refuse to see one days figures as both.

    Its always amazing when we see people coming out with both opinions from different figures on a single day.


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  • #2572
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Those swab numbers are good. Compared to last Wednesday it's ten more cases from 1,000 more swabs.

    Ever the optimist, cases over the last two weeks have also well aligned with the GP referral tracker, which means we should see even better numbers in the days to come.


  • #2573
    shinzon
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    AdamD wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1377275983535951875

    Are they just pretending vaccines don't exist?

    No is the answer to that question there talking about unvaccinated people continuing to mix and spread the disease now which will give an exponential spurt growth to the numbers with the b117 variant much more transmissable.

    Vast majority of us are still not vaccinated so we need to cop on now or face a potential 4th wave of the virus down the line thats what they meant.

    Shin


  • #2574
    [Deleted User]
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    Watch the bloody briefing.

    Philip Nolan said that was worse case scenario if there’s a big increase in mixing. He added the caveat that if people stick by the restrictions then the vaccination rollout reduces any future risks of such an increase like the above.

    He went into clear, concise detail about this, including how in 8 weeks time if people stick to restrictions then the vaccination programme will cut a theoretical R number of 1.4 by half to 0.7. He compared this to if there was no vaccine at all.

    Watch the briefing instead of looking at a single tweet.

    Its Fergal Bowers responsibility to contextualise what he tweets. Not everyone can watch the briefing. Pretty shocking use of twitter by him TBH


  • #2575
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Benimar wrote: »
    Cases were 17 lower than swabs yesterday, so any delay look minimal. As always, tomorrow will tell a lot regarding any backlog.

    Ah I meant a lab not reporting swabs. I don't mean the delay/backlog from swabs becoming cases.
    It's just quite a jump or the preceding days dropped quite alot.


  • #2576
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Watch the bloody briefing.

    Philip Nolan said that was worse case scenario if there’s a big increase in mixing. He added the caveat that if people stick by the restrictions then the vaccination rollout reduces any future risks of such an increase like the above.

    He went into clear, concise detail about this, including how in 8 weeks time if people stick to restrictions then the vaccination programme will cut a theoretical R number of 1.4 by half to 0.7. He compared this to if there was no vaccine at all.

    Watch the briefing instead of looking at a single tweet.

    Apologies, I should have not trusted the tweet from an RTE correspondent. Instead ill watch the briefing at 3pm on a work day?

    Christ
    shinzon wrote: »
    No is the answer to that question there talking about unvaccinated people continuing to mix and spread the disease now which will give an exponential spurt growth to the numbers with the b117 variant much more transmissable.

    Vast majority of us are still not vaccinated so we need to cop on now or face a potential 4th wave of the virus down the line thats what they meant.

    Shin
    The timeline given is up to September, we'll have huge numbers vaccinated by May.


  • #2577
    funnydoggy
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    Read my last post where the same health correspondent put that tweet into context.

    Watch the briefings instead of looking at individual tweets.


    He put out the next tweet over 20 minutes later. It is his job to provide a balanced, timely reporting of events that take place.

    I completely agree with you that the briefings need to be watched for full context but we know that the majority of people who see that tweet, will take just that tweet into consideration.


  • #2578
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Its Fergal Bowers responsibility to contextualise what he tweets. Not everyone can watch the briefing. Pretty shocking use of twitter by him TBH

    And he did contextualise that in a later tweet.

    That poster took one tweet in isolation, and posted it here to cause outrage.

    Fergal Bowers, like everyone else, has 280 characters to make his point. Philip Nolan’s modelling can be very complex and it’s not going to fit into one tweet. It was a tweet later (which I have posted) where you see that the poster’s question of pretending vaccines don’t exist was answered.

    Whereas if people watched the briefings then they’d see all of it for themselves. But no, they take one tweet in isolation and don’t bother their arses to do any research.


  • #2579
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    He put out the next tweet over 20 minutes later. It is his job to provide a balanced, timely reporting of events that take place.

    I completely agree with you that the briefings need to be watched for full context but we know that the majority of people who see that tweet, will take just that tweet into consideration.

    He did provide a balanced, timely reporting of events. Nolan spoke for a long time.


  • #2580
    funnydoggy
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    He did provide a balanced, timely reporting of events. Nolan spoke for a long time.




    Ah okay, fair point there.


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  • #2581
    Faugheen
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    AdamD wrote: »
    Apologies, I should have not trusted the tweet from an RTE correspondent. Instead ill watch the briefing at 3pm on a work day?

    Christ

    So you take one tweet and didn’t make any effort to look for any context, which Fergal Bowers did long before you posted that tweet.

    Why did you take one tweet and post it with a question that had actually been answered in a later tweet?


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