Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X Read OP For Mod Warnings

TonyMaloney · 30-03-2021 09:34PM

jusvi2001 wrote: »

It seems majority of the countrymen and media are either too obliged to government or happy with the carrots offered today.

In December level 5 was introduced due to the number of positive people, increased hospital/ICU admissions (Every year Nov/December Hospitals are overwhelmed with admissions) , Deaths (deaths were always higher in winter time). After 3 months, hospital admissions decreased 70%, 800000 doses of vaccine administered. deaths came down to single digit or none. still the relaxations made (due after 2 weeks or end of april) are mere carrots.

No justification for not resuming full construction, click and collect for retailers, what about people with non covid related illness. there will be more death due to cancer than covid.

clowns at NPHET have only one thing to say...'hold firm' may be for another 10 years.

There's so many of you here that confuse NPHET's restrictions with hospitals enacting emergency plans, and therefore cancelling things like cancer screenings.

It's all the worse because not only are NPHET not responsible for the HSE emergency plans, but the primary goal of the restrictions they've brought in has been to avoid emergency plans being needed to be enacted.

Pussyhands · 30-03-2021 09:36PM

One thing I hope, when everything opens up and everyone is vaccinated is that there's no revisionism how the government were right and how they did great.

colly10 · 30-03-2021 09:37PM

speckle wrote: »

Apply still.. someone posted they choose a limited number of random passports each week to do... if it is an emergency contact dfa.ie

Have applied, want my wife’s parents to be able to meet their grandson before he’s a year old. I can work from anywhere so the government don’t need to worry about me arriving back any time soon.
Are there other places not issuing passports, sick of this ****hole

Lesalare · 30-03-2021 09:38PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Fathers must wait outside the hospital and are only allowed to come in when the woman is fully dilated and at the pushing stage.
This means that whether a woman is in active labour for 30 minutes or 30 hours, her partner isn’t allowed to be there to support her until the very end.
It’s awful for both the mam and the dad. She has to go through the majority of the experience by herself and the dad is deprived from being there for his partner and new baby.

They are allowed to stay for an hour or so after the birth, then they can’t see their partner or baby again until they are discharged from hospital.
For a woman who has a section, that could be 4/5 days later. An awfully long time to be alone in hospital with no family support, particularly for a first time mother.

That is utter madness. Sure they'd have been living in the same house/social bubble together. Going into a private birthing room. I can't get my head around this.

30-03-2021 09:38PM

Locotastic wrote: »

I only wear one when I visit my in laws (in their garden) as they are very high risk.

But its a good sign and might put to rest all the zealots thinking we'll be in masks forevermore.

Not really. There's nothing in the plan about them being scrapped in shops, banks, public transport, restaurants, bars etc. There's no level 0 in the plan. And Glynn keeps talking about 'a degree of normality'.

JRant · 30-03-2021 09:40PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about and you're ignoring countries like Chile who are miles ahead of us on the vaccine front but having a terrible time.

This is absolutely not over. The good news is that it soon will be.

Oh, I know exactly what I'm talking about. Point out anything I said that's wrong?

We aren't Chile or Hungary or Brazil or any other country for that matter.

Del Griffith · 30-03-2021 09:40PM

Literally better off with no vaccines, much more freedom

TonyMaloney · 30-03-2021 09:41PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not really. There's nothing in the plan about them being scrapped in shops, banks, public transport, restaurants, bars etc. There's no level 0 in the plan. And Glynn keeps talking about 'a degree of normality'.

We all know what normality is. Why in the name of god would they have to spec it out for us?

PTH2009 · 30-03-2021 09:41PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

How do nphet have full control? You were saying the same thing yesterday and were completely wrong. Any sign of the made up thousand cases BTW?

The May reopenings are 'Subject to public health advice' before they can proceed

There will be a rise in numbers naturally esp with the the incoming relaxations but we know NPHET will panic and back we go instead of forward

retro:electro · 30-03-2021 09:44PM

Will our meaningful summer be better than our meaningful Christmas? Will we get 24 days this time instead of 23?

hynesie08 · 30-03-2021 09:46PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

The May reopenings are 'Subject to public health advice' before they can proceed

There will be a rise in numbers naturally esp with the the incoming relaxations but we know NPHET will panic and back we go instead of forward

So were today's, and they still didn't take nphets recommendations.

There is no guarantee of a rise in numbers (or them just making them up like you claimed) with an increase in vaccinations.....

Stormyteacup · 30-03-2021 09:46PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

There's so many of you here that confuse NPHET's restrictions with hospitals enacting emergency plans, and therefore cancelling things like cancer screenings.

It's all the worse because not only are NPHET not responsible for the HSE emergency plans, but the primary goal of the restrictions they've brought in has been to avoid emergency plans being needed to be enacted.

Have you seen the makeup of the members of NPHET? It’s their day jobs to be responsible for the HSE emergency plans. They make and are in charge of HSE emergency plans.

SnuggyBear · 30-03-2021 09:46PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

Literally better off with no vaccines, much more freedom

Mad isn't it

30-03-2021 09:47PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

We all know what normality is. Why in the name of god would they have to spec it out for us?

Well, there's a level 0 in Scotland's roadmap and it includes mask wearing. So unless they go for level -1 it seems mask wearing will stick around in Scotland.

growleaves · 30-03-2021 09:47PM

Employees of the second largest school district in the US have filed a lawsuit over mandatory vaccines.

Employees Sue LAUSD for Mandating Experimental Covid-19 Vaccine

TonyMaloney · 30-03-2021 09:47PM

JRant wrote: »

Oh, I know exactly what I'm talking about. Point out anything I said that's wrong?

We aren't Chile or Hungary or Brazil or any other country for that matter.

We're not over the hump. The only thing saving us from another disaster is unfortunately heavy restrictions on living.

I agree we're not those countries. Strange point though.

30-03-2021 09:48PM

On the variants obsession: https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1375200672182853632

Tenzor07 · 30-03-2021 09:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not really. There's nothing in the plan about them being scrapped in shops, banks, public transport, restaurants, bars etc. There's no level 0 in the plan. And Glynn keeps talking about 'a degree of normality'.

"a degree of normality" to Nphet and the likes means that for the foreseeable future, masks, social distance, reduced numbers in shops/bars/public places/workplaces, pcr tests to travel...

30-03-2021 09:50PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

"a degree of normality" to Nphet and the likes means that for the foreseeable future, masks, social distance, reduced numbers in shops/bars/public places/workplaces, pcr tests to travel...

Yes, that's what I think. Hence no level 0 on the plan.

speckle · 30-03-2021 09:50PM

colly10 wrote: »

Have applied, want my wife’s parents to be able to meet their grandson before he’s a year old. I can work from anywhere so the government don’t need to worry about me arriving back any time soon.
Are there other places not issuing passports, sick of this ****hole

Woukd your travel fall under any of the exemptions

https://www.thejournal.ie/passport-office-processing-5379384-Mar2021/

Not sure about other countrys.. US and Uk seem open.

30-03-2021 09:50PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

Literally better off with no vaccines, much more freedom

None vs none?

Stormyteacup · 30-03-2021 09:50PM

Also the last public emergency NPHET were in charge of was the CPE emergency. Remember that emergency? No, no one else does either. NPHET was set up in 2017, in fact there’re quite a few names and titles still there from then, their last meeting re CPE emergency before being wound up was scheduled for February 2020.

TonyMaloney · 30-03-2021 09:53PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well, there's a level 0 in Scotland's roadmap and it includes mask wearing. So unless they go for level -1 it seems mask wearing will stick around in Scotland.

Well that sounds more like level 0.1

Who knows how long they might ask us to mask up in public. At this stage I'm really not arsed about it at all.

To be honest I'm not sure why any of us talk about levels any more. I don't think we've even once actually been in a level as they were originally layed out. And I don't suppose we ever will at this stage.

robbiezero · 30-03-2021 09:54PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

We're not over the hump. The only thing saving us from another disaster is unfortunately heavy restrictions on living.

I agree we're not those countries. Strange point though.

How do you know this?

namloc1980 · 30-03-2021 09:55PM

17larsson wrote: »

People fully vaccinated taking orders from the government about how many of them can meet and where?

When government dictating how many fully vaccinated people can meet is being spun as a positive, you know we're truly fooked.

Del Griffith · 30-03-2021 09:55PM

Brilliant videos going around WhatsApp of huge crowds in the grass by The Dropping Well, it actually looks like a festival.

You'd want to be a total ****ing pleb to still be sitting at home paying any attention to the bull**** restrictions at this stage.

30-03-2021 09:57PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Well that sounds more like level 0.1

Who knows how long they might ask us to mask up in public. At this stage I'm really not arsed about it at all.

To be honest I'm not sure why any of us talk about levels any more. I don't think we've even once actually been in a level as they were originally layed out. And I don't suppose we ever will at this stage.

The risk is that they become completely normalised and they never scrap them. I would argue that they've already been normalised.

_Kaiser_ · 30-03-2021 10:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The risk is that they become completely normalised and they never scrap them. I would argue that they've already been normalised.

Nah as I said earlier, it's only because of the threat of fines/prosecution.

Most people aren't very comfortable dealing with the Gardai anyway so they are going along with it for now, but you can see by the way people don't wear them properly or are constantly messing with them that it's only lip service.

As soon as the penalties are gone, so too will the masks be gone.

RobitTV · 30-03-2021 10:00PM

Bucharest, Romania

Good crowd out for a protest

https://twitter.com/RadioSavana/status/1376979840344154114

30-03-2021 10:02PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Nah as I said earlier, it's only because of the threat of fines/prosecution.

Most people aren't very comfortable dealing with the Gardai anyway so they are going along with it for now, but you can see by the way people don't wear them properly or are constantly messing with them that it's only lip service.

As soon as the penalties are gone, so too will the masks be gone.

But will the penalties ever go? That's the concern.

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