Cycling Mikey

km991148 · 21-03-2021 01:49PM

MojoMaker wrote: »

Nowt wrong with that. It's a junction well known for folks trying it on.

Cock in the Freelander was quick enough to get back in lane as he knew he was being a cock.

Also plenty of traffic coming up from the right of the picture that you couldn't possibly see when shaving that right turn, not just bikes.

Once again, I am not disputing that the drivers are absolute c***s for doing the things Mikey catches them doing. He is right to report them.

I am saying Mikey will end up coming a cropper one day and end up seriously injured or worse. He is trying to stop cars with hands and body. Absolute lunacy.

km991148 · 21-03-2021 01:57PM

Seve OB wrote: »

He is so full of sh1t. You could hear him already riled up as he ran out. He goes on about the guy being so aggressive which I didn’t see at all. Mikey was the only aggressive person in this clip. Guy hit the brakes, then reversed and got back into his lane and showed absolutely no signs of aggression. I don’t think he drove into mikey, to me it looks like he just lifted off the brake and the car moved forward which is what happens with automatic cars and if you are thick enough to remain standing in front of one then an accident can and will happen someday.

yeah - the whole 'dan' business. The chip is really showing when it comes to private plates.
If I knew him I would be having a word. I don't think a friend would let someone carry on like that. The guy has issues, has suffered a road side tragedy in the family and if he is not careful his family will see more grief. I am genuinely worried for him.

Seve OB · 21-03-2021 04:09PM

km991148 wrote: »

if he is not careful his family will see more grief.

You make a very valid point here.

AndrewJRenko · 21-03-2021 06:06PM

km991148 wrote: »

here's today's recommendation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qklan0aVvE

I fear for the guy at this stage - its only a matter of time before someone does him serious damage.

(I don't want to get into the tugging the forelock nonsense again, I am just leaving it there as a statement)

Seve OB wrote: »

He is so full of sh1t. You could hear him already riled up as he ran out. He goes on about the guy being so aggressive which I didn’t see at all. Mikey was the only aggressive person in this clip. Guy hit the brakes, then reversed and got back into his lane and showed absolutely no signs of aggression. I don’t think he drove into mikey, to me it looks like he just lifted off the brake and the car moved forward which is what happens with automatic cars and if you are thick enough to remain standing in front of one then an accident can and will happen someday.

Maybe it's just me, but I'd have thought that, if you're driving an automatic car, you should have some idea of what happens when you lift your foot off the brake, and be capable of planning accordingly, like putting the car into neutral or reverse before lifting your foot? Honestly, if you're not capable of managing the vehicle in such circumstances, you shouldn't be behind the wheel. It's not really a great excuse for driving 2 or 3 tonnes of metal at a person, a human, someone's father, someone's brother.

But it is interesting to note the rush to excuse violence towards Mikey even in advance of it actually happening.

CramCycle wrote: »

He certainly wasn't aggressive, a bad driver in that he panicked and lifted the foot off the brake, but not aggressive. He lifts his hand, reverses, doesn't open his mouth in anger. The driver was 100% in the wrong but Mickey is going to be accused by some of looking for a claim which is what I would have thought if someone done that to me. Like I said before, if he sat the camera there and just recorded them, most of them would be off the road by the end of the week as undoubtedly most of them would have been repeat offenders. What does he want, bad drivers off the road or youtube hits, he could have both is he stopped running out in front of people.

Again, the YouTube hits are very likely to have a significant deterrent effect. It would never be possible to measure or prove this, but if 20k people see this video, there's a good chance that a few of them will decide not to drive on the wrong side of the road at this or any junction.

magicbastarder · 21-03-2021 06:22PM

half the poxy youtube hits are probably stemming from this thread at this stage anyway.

AndrewJRenko · 21-03-2021 06:25PM

Weepsie wrote: »

You need to stop making these assumptions. You've already been warned. Ordinarily I wouldn't care, but you are repeatedly asking for proof from other posters and relying on nothing more than conjecture yourself.

There are millions upon millions of videos of bad and illegal behaviour, yet we still have it. You're at the "if it saves one life, please think of the children" end of the wedge now.

Yes, it absolutely is conjecture - a fairly reasonable conjecture.

Are you actually suggesting that, with a wide audience like 20k views, there isn't one viewer in there who is going to decide, on their next spin through Gandalf corner - "hang on - maybe yer man is behind the bushes again - I'll wait in the queue".

Kaisr Sose · 21-03-2021 06:45PM

Those motorists have some neck,

"My journey is more important than yours" types. For that they deserve to be called out. If this guy wants to make it his crusade, I can't judge him for it. It is risky though.

The Met Police seem more open to accepting video than AGS, who seem to think video is only relevant for solving major crime or them entertaining the nation with gigs, steps and reels.

At least the Met tell the complainant the sanction issued to adriver. Whereas, here you rarely hear anything after the initial report. Maybe if they did not tell the outcome, he would loose interest?

Anyway, clearly they don't have an issue with what he is doing or they would advise or caution him to desist (which AGS would most likey do lest he provoke a person with violent tenancies.

It's a wonder the Met don't put a camera on that junction (Gandalfs corner). That would stop it, and possibly an assault or vehicular homicide.

With chaoitic driving very prevalent here, do we have our own Gandalfs corner anywhere? Phoenix Park can have a lot of cutting corners and general speeding, but to my knowledge, nothing like on Mikey clips.

Seve OB · 21-03-2021 07:19PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Maybe it's just me, but I'd have thought that, if you're driving an automatic car, you should have some idea of what happens when you lift your foot off the brake, and be capable of planning accordingly, like putting the car into neutral or reverse before lifting your foot? Honestly, if you're not capable of managing the vehicle in such circumstances, you shouldn't be behind the wheel. It's not really a great excuse for driving 2 or 3 tonnes of metal at a person, a human, someone's father, someone's brother.

Yep you called it, it’s just you.
Of course a driver knows what happens when he takes his foot off the brake.

km991148 · 21-03-2021 07:23PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Maybe it's just me, but I'd have thought that, if you're driving an automatic car, you should have some idea of what happens when you lift your foot off the brake, and be capable of planning accordingly, like putting the car into neutral or reverse before lifting your foot? Honestly, if you're not capable of managing the vehicle in such circumstances, you shouldn't be behind the wheel. It's not really a great excuse for driving 2 or 3 tonnes of metal at a person, a human, someone's father, someone's brother.

But it is interesting to note the rush to excuse violence towards Mikey even in advance of it actually happening.

Again, the YouTube hits are very likely to have a significant deterrent effect. It would never be possible to measure or prove this, but if 20k people see this video, there's a good chance that a few of them will decide not to drive on the wrong side of the road at this or any junction.

I think you mistakenly quoted me there? I don't think I excuse or justified arsehole behaviour from motorists at all?

The videos are showing (predictably) more aggression. Even more predictably Mikey is getting cockier.
Excuse the pun but it's a car crash waiting to happen. I hope I am wrong. I don't want to see any harm to the guy as I believe his intentions started off well.

AndrewJRenko · 30-03-2021 02:32PM

Looks like all the predictions that someone was going to physically respond to Mikey were correct.

https://twitter.com/MikeyCycling/status/1376878951553974275?s=19

Amazing how people that were in so much of a rush that they had to drive on the wrong side of the road seemingly have loads of time to hang around and debate the point.

30-03-2021 02:44PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Yes, it absolutely is conjecture - a fairly reasonable conjecture.

Are you actually suggesting that, with a wide audience like 20k views, there isn't one viewer in there who is going to decide, on their next spin through Gandalf corner - "hang on - maybe yer man is behind the bushes again - I'll wait in the queue".

I doubt many of 20k are motorists who drive that place. I bet most are cyclists and or keyboard heros

CramCycle · 30-03-2021 02:48PM

"Have you not seen the viral videos" LOL, no, its a few thousand views in a city of millions a good chunk of those views are probably from Ireland at the minute.

This said, it is funny how many of them persist in engaging with him, they are morons. You see the smart ones immediately pull back in, but the ones who persist, you have to wonder the mentality. They would have been through the junction. I still say if his only interest was safety though he would simply sit there and film and report. That said, luckily for him he isn't in Ireland or he would have to go to court each time of the gardai even bothered and a judge or garda would blame him for some of the incidents.

AndrewJRenko · 30-03-2021 03:04PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I doubt many of 20k are motorists who drive that place. I bet most are cyclists and or keyboard heros

1) Most cyclists ARE motorists.
2) Most keyboard warriors ARE motorists.

You're right to say that most of them probably don't drive in that location, but do you think it is reasonable to say that maybe 1% of viewers drive in that location occasionally?

Seve OB · 30-03-2021 03:28PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

1) Most cyclists ARE motorists.
2) Most keyboard warriors ARE motorists.

You're right to say that most of them probably don't drive in that location, but do you think it is reasonable to say that maybe 1% of viewers drive in that location occasionally?

have you got evidential stats to back up your assumptions there?

AndrewJRenko · 30-03-2021 03:33PM

Seve OB wrote: »

have you got evidential stats to back up your assumptions there?

Sure

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2010/aug/10/cycling-boom-survey

Duckjob · 30-03-2021 03:37PM

CramCycle wrote: »

"Have you not seen the viral videos" LOL, no, its a few thousand views in a city of millions a good chunk of those views are probably from Ireland at the minute.

This said, it is funny how many of them persist in engaging with him, they are morons. You see the smart ones immediately pull back in, but the ones who persist, you have to wonder the mentality. They would have been through the junction. I still say if his only interest was safety though he would simply sit there and film and report. That said, luckily for him he isn't in Ireland or he would have to go to court each time of the gardai even bothered and a judge or garda would blame him for some of the incidents.

I can just imagine trying to progress an assault charge with the gardai in that situation. It would be that scene in Goodfellas....

No, no, you insulted him a little bit, you got a little bit out of order yourself...

Seve OB · 30-03-2021 03:39PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Sure

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2010/aug/10/cycling-boom-survey

nothing about keyboard warriors or your guess about 1% of Mikeys viewers driving his stomping ground?

AndrewJRenko · 30-03-2021 03:40PM

Duckjob wrote: »

I can just imagine trying to progress an assault charge with the gardai in that situation. It would be that scene in Goodfellas....

If the Gardai found out that you were a cyclist, they would charge you with damaging the other guy's knuckles.

timmyjimmy · 30-03-2021 04:30PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

1) Most cyclists ARE motorists.

The opposite cannot be said for motorists

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

1)

Sure

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ng-boom-survey

"However, just 12% of adults questioned by Mintel said they cycled regularly, while 65% said they never rode a bike. One in seven (15%) said they were "lapsed cyclists" who had a bicycle which they no longer rode."

AndrewJRenko · 30-03-2021 04:35PM

Seve OB wrote: »

nothing about keyboard warriors or your guess about 1% of Mikeys viewers driving his stomping ground?

You're welcome.

Define "keyboard warriors"?

And yes, the 1% is a pure guess. What % do you reckon?

30-03-2021 05:55PM

Life really is too short for that ****e. 5 minutes having back and forth when all he had to do was make his point and report them. What happens then is the junction is blocked for those legally using it for a full 5 minutes.

He's no intention of preceding through that junction himself he was heading back to his bush, so why throw himself into the middle of the road when he can just as easily film every one of them from the footpath and report them and avoid any confrontation? Wouldn't do the clicks on youtube is why.

AndrewJRenko · 30-03-2021 05:57PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Life really is too short for that ****e. 5 minutes having back and forth when all he had to do was make his point and report them. What happens then is the junction is blocked for those legally using it for a full 5 minutes.

He's no intention of preceding through that junction himself he was heading back to his bush, so why throw himself into the middle of the road when he can just as easily film every one of them from the footpath and report them and avoid any confrontation? Wouldn't do the clicks on youtube is why.

Just to be clear, the junction was blocked for five minutes by the two drivers driving on the wrong side of the road.

30-03-2021 06:08PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Just to be clear, the junction was blocked for five minutes by the two drivers driving on the wrong side of the road.

As I said all he had to do was make his point and report them and go around, but he was never going around was he ? Back to the bush with him.

I'd have full support for someone who'd encountered the car while using the road but this guy is just out for clicks. He doesn't need to put himself in the road to film them and report them.

This is not the behaviour of some white knight.

MojoMaker · 30-03-2021 06:25PM

You really think motorists only respond to the letter in the post weeks or months later?

The confrontation at least crystallises the action there and then. You're left in no doubt that you've transgressed - where, when, how, and why it was a transgression.

Points are remote and somewhat distant from the transgression.

If anyone has a problem with being called out for being a cock, then don't be a cock.

30-03-2021 07:47PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

1) Most cyclists ARE motorists.
2) Most keyboard warriors ARE motorists.

You're right to say that most of them probably don't drive in that location, but do you think it is reasonable to say that maybe 1% of viewers drive in that location occasionally?

When I was a child we had a toy called stretched armstrong. You could stretch it into all kinds of tortured shapes

CramCycle · 30-03-2021 08:35PM

I get the crystalline point but it's crystallising it in one person's mind. Most drivers, like cyclists are creatures of habit. If he just sat there and filmed, day in and day out, he'd have most of them off the road or fined enough they would start behaving. All that crowd might do is start behaving at that one junction. They will still misbehave elsewhere. I think it's great he is doing it but anyone who thinks he is doing it as some beacon of justice is misguided at best, it's YouTube hits and nothing else.

Car99 · 30-03-2021 09:42PM

Cycling micky is getting 500k to 1million plus views on his more popular videos that us a nice little earner probably pulling in 3k a month after tax.

AndrewJRenko · 30-03-2021 09:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

When I was a child we had a toy called stretched armstrong. You could stretch it into all kinds of tortured shapes

Nice story, but should we get back to talking about Mikey?

CramCycle wrote: »

I get the crystalline point but it's crystallising it in one person's mind. Most drivers, like cyclists are creatures of habit. If he just sat there and filmed, day in and day out, he'd have most of them off the road or fined enough they would start behaving. All that crowd might do is start behaving at that one junction. They will still misbehave elsewhere. I think it's great he is doing it but anyone who thinks he is doing it as some beacon of justice is misguided at best, it's YouTube hits and nothing else.

It seems to take 1-2 years for the police/courts to process a case, based on the timing of release of videos. So he has the choice of a 1-2 year time lag for the driver to get the message, or immediate delivery of that message. I know which one is more effective.

The YouTube hits are almost certain to have some degree of deterrent effect too.

CramCycle · 30-03-2021 10:06PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

It seems to take 1-2 years for the police/courts to process a case, based on the timing of release of videos. So he has the choice of a 1-2 year time lag for the driver to get the message, or immediate delivery of that message. I know which one is more effective.

The YouTube hits are almost certain to have some degree of deterrent effect too.

I admire your optimism but a lot of people with that attitude that the drivers in the video have will not learn from this, the video or anything else and a lot of people will look at this and just think he is a tosser and what's the harm in what they are doing. I don't agree with them but the truth of the matter is if youtube videos had any noticeable affect on driver behaviour, things would have improved along time ago.
If he hit them hard with multiple fines and DQs, that would have an affect, this achieves very little in the context of his city as a whole and the behaviour of these drivers once they are away from this area.
I don't begrudge him making a buck out of it, its entertaining in the way Alan Partridge or David Brent is entertaining, but don't dress is up as anything else other than him making a buck, like CSR, I'd sooner this than nothing at all.
If the gardai had a similar system I'd happily upload my commutes every day, I'd be making them a mint and I don't mind Cycling mickey, its certainly entertaining in a way he doesn't intend, but I won't buy that he is on some noble mission.

30-03-2021 10:51PM

Has he campaigned the relevant authority to do something to prevent cars going down the right on that stretch? Seems like a no brainer with the amount of video he has there. I'd be more supportive of him if he won the battle here like that and move the war on somewhere else.

Cycling Mikey

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