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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #1592
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,100 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    giveitholly wrote: »
    So we can't have hospitality in the summer unless we behave ourselves in the next two months, shower of c**ts

    Yeah just behave for at least another 2 months then we may get a summer if we're all good boys and girls

    Couldn't give any dates to the public but NPHET and the government have no problem coming up with dates that we can't do things by

    NPHET completely running the country so the government will just roll over again


  • #1593
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    blowitupref wrote: »
    I don't i always focus on 7 or 14 day averages.

    202 is weekly difference in case numbers and 27,823 more tests was carried out the last 7 days compared to the previous 7 days

    More testing is good.

    New case numbers are not showing any significant reduction over time.


  • #1594
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,545 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »
    Schools to reopen on 12th.
    Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
    Kids sports training from 26th.
    5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
    Construction reopening May 3rd.
    Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

    Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.

    If they come out with that people will just throw the towel in. The 5km is already being widely ignored.


  • #1595
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,100 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »
    Schools to reopen on 12th.
    Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
    Kids sports training from 26th.
    5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
    Construction reopening May 3rd.
    Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

    Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.

    Where are you finding those proposals?


  • #1596
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    We are all the worst and deserve to be punished by NPHET


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  • #1597
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,713 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nphet-delivers-stark-warning-to-government-that-lifting-restrictions-too-early-could-cause-fresh-covid-wave-lasting-into-summer-1.4522864

    Unbelievable stuff. 2000 cases a day within a week if the 5km is relaxed.

    They don't seem to realise that Ireland is not a police state. It's police by consent here. The people will stop supporting these measures unless there is some reprieve tomorrow. Then they will get their "fourth wave" regardless.


  • #1598
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Where are you finding those proposals?

    He's pulled them from the depths of an orifice.


  • #1599
    Natterjack from Kerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    giveitholly wrote: »
    So we can't have hospitality in the summer unless we behave ourselves in the next two months, shower of c**ts

    Why such a hostile reaction ? They arent just making up arbitrary rules for fun of it. If thats what the modelling says, thats what the modelling says. It would be irresponsible of NPHET not to spell this out of thats the ways it is. No point blaming them for the maths of the virus.


  • #1600
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    marno21 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nphet-delivers-stark-warning-to-government-that-lifting-restrictions-too-early-could-cause-fresh-covid-wave-lasting-into-summer-1.4522864

    Unbelievable stuff. 2000 cases a day within a week if the 5km is relaxed.

    They don't seem to realise that Ireland is not a police state. It's police by consent here. The people will stop supporting these measures unless there is some reprieve tomorrow. Then they will get their "fourth wave" regardless.

    They also don't realize people don't give a **** about the 5km radius anymore, they're living in a fantasy and oblivious to reality.


  • #1601
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Very easy to lockdown

    NPHET and the government had no issue with the LOKdown last year

    Coming up with a plan for easing restrictions in regions or counties won't be countenanced as it would require work so they'll stick to blanket restrictions

    They are all spineless


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  • #1602
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,713 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »
    Why such a hostile reaction ? They arent just making up arbitrary rules for fun of it. If thats what the modelling says, thats what the modelling says. It would be irresponsible of NPHET not to spell this out of thats the ways it is. No point blaming them for the maths of the virus.
    How do you input mass disobedience and complete collapse of public buy in to the modelling?

    It's evidently going on already and it's compliance isn't going to increase if we get told we're bold and getting no treats tomorrow.


  • #1603
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,471 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Where are you finding those proposals?

    He's making them up as usual


  • #1604
    Natterjack from Kerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    If they come out with that people will just throw the towel in. The 5km is already being widely ignored.

    Then are they not perfectly correct to maintain it ?


  • #1605
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Corholio wrote: »
    No way will they not increase the 5km limit until May. They will actually do more damage to their 'targets' by doing that. Cases will rise out of sheer frustration.

    Yeah, I'd be very surprised if that didn't change on Monday.


  • #1606
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »
    Why such a hostile reaction ? They arent just making up arbitrary rules for fun of it. If thats what the modelling says, thats what the modelling says. It would be irresponsible of NPHET not to spell this out of thats the ways it is. No point blaming them for the maths of the virus.

    Their modelling is bollocks and has been off time and time again. "Maths of the virus" - good heavens. I haven't seen you critically analyse anything from NPHET, you seem to just blindly agree.


  • #1607
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »
    Schools to reopen on 12th.
    Golf to reopen on 19th for those within 5km.
    Kids sports training from 26th.
    5km for exercise to be extended to 10km from May 3rd.
    Construction reopening May 3rd.
    Further stages from May 17th to be reviewed and announced w/b 10th.

    Something like that I think. It is cautious, is a plan, which is the main thing people are demanding, and does show some light at the end of the tunnel, without risking the hard work done so far before the vaccine number really rise through April and May.


    Far too aggressive a reopening.

    3 weeks minimum between each date.


  • #1608
    Natterjack from Kerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Where are you finding those proposals?

    Reading the tea leaves, which I think are pretty obvious at this point and all can see them, which is why many are so up in arms.


  • #1609
    11521323
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »
    Then are they not perfectly correct to maintain it ?

    Yes. If something is not working, why not keep trying until it does. You realize the stuff you perpetually regurgitate bears the mark of insanity?


  • #1610
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,545 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    marno21 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nphet-delivers-stark-warning-to-government-that-lifting-restrictions-too-early-could-cause-fresh-covid-wave-lasting-into-summer-1.4522864

    Unbelievable stuff. 2000 cases a day within a week if the 5km is relaxed.

    They don't seem to realise that Ireland is not a police state. It's police by consent here. The people will stop supporting these measures unless there is some reprieve tomorrow. Then they will get their "fourth wave" regardless.

    NPHET want up to another 2 months of lockdowns. Would they ever just fook off!!


  • #1611
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »
    Reading the tea leaves talking complete sh1te, which I think are pretty obvious at this point and all can see them, which is why many are so up in arms.

    FYP


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  • #1612
    castletownman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,462 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I'm fairly certain that a good chunk of the gardaí don't care about the 5KM restrictions any more either. I haven't seen any checkpoint on my usual routes for a month now, including one on the way to check in on work where I pass through a county border.

    I do still have a "prescription" sitting on my passenger seat in the off-chance I do encounter a checkpoint whenever I feel like a bad-ass and venture beyond my 5KM.


  • #1613
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    11521323 wrote: »
    Their modelling is bollocks and has been off time and time again. "Maths of the virus" - good heavens. I haven't seen you critically analyse anything from NPHET, you seem to just blindly agree.

    Was just gonna say this. Seen people criticising their modelling online. I don’t know anything about or claim to, however it seems to be something that comes with a sizeable margin of error.


  • #1614
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    km79 wrote: »
    People needing homes built to live in ?

    Eh? You mean you believe construction wont resume? During the last recession the demand for new housing fell through the floor and when economic conditions were right - house building went into overdrive. I expect the exact same will happen again tbf.


  • #1615
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    castletownman wrote: »
    I'm fairly certain that a good chunk of the gardaí don't care about the 5KM restrictions any more either. I haven't seen any checkpoint on my usual routes for a month now, including one on the way to check in on work where I pass through a county border.

    I do still have a "prescription" sitting on my passenger seat in the off-chance I do encounter a checkpoint whenever I feel like a bad-ass and venture beyond my 5KM.

    5km rule is non-existent. It’s only there to make the lockdown merchants feel safe.


  • #1616
    Natterjack from Kerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    11521323 wrote: »
    Yes. If something is not working, why not keep trying until it does. You realize the stuff you perpetually regurgitate bears the mark of insanity?

    Because reducing it to 2km would likely not fix it. What restriction would you impose instead that would work to get numbers down ?


  • #1617
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,873 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    It will be 5k for the whole of this year at this rate


  • #1618
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    I understand calls for some regional lifting where cases are low.

    But if we lift restrictions nationwide we get another wave similar to christmas.

    Schools unfortunately & people breaking restrictions will see a rise next months most likely.
    some people just not thinking logically. We just get another lockdown if we lift restrictions with cases still too high


  • #1619
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    The fact they think we could end up with 2000 cases a day if 5k limit is extended is farcical! Counties the size of Cork and Kerry which have very little covid if any, how would I catch covid by walking on Garryvoe beach or going to the lakes in Killarney! I’m not going to go and lick someone or ask them to shift me!


  • #1620
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    gozunda wrote: »
    More testing is good.

    New case numbers are not showing any significant reduction over time.
    You still haven't answered my original question.


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  • #1621
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,545 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    MD1990 wrote: »
    I understand calls for some regional lifting where cases are low.

    But if we lift restrictions nationwide we get another wave similar to christmas.

    Schools unfortunately & people breaking restrictions will see a rise next months most likely.
    some people just not thinking logically. We just get another lockdown if we lift restrictions with cases still too high

    Schools are open for 4 weeks now with all primary back 2 weeks. No sign of this so called surge.


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