Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X Read OP For Mod Warnings

gmisk · 29-03-2021 01:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I passed a funeral in Bluebell earlier this morning. Had to be at least 100 people outside the church with very little social distancing or mask wearing going on. Lot's of hugs and handshakes too. Definitely hardly any public buy in anymore.

You are basing that on one funeral?....

LameBeaver · 29-03-2021 01:34PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I actually don't think it was.

Why do you think not?

29-03-2021 01:34PM

gmisk wrote: »

You are basing that on one funeral?....

It's just one example. :rolleyes:

Tenzor07 · 29-03-2021 01:36PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Government sources are saying this afternoon that 10km is the only choice they have right now. County travel off the table.
The general secretary of the Association of Garda Sergeant and Inspectors, warned on Monday morning that any easing of the 5k travel restriction will make policing the pandemic even more challenging.

Changing the #StayAtHome rule from 5k to 10k is completely pointless, it's just offering crumbs to a weary Irish public.. we don't want it..

Dunno what the Gards are on about adding 5k shouldn't make any difference to their operations... I see they had 3 Patrol cars surrounding a Church to stop people going to say Prayers...

29-03-2021 01:36PM

LameBeaver wrote: »

Why do you think not?

You tend to notice these things if you're from the area.

JPup · 29-03-2021 01:38PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Government sources are saying this afternoon that 10km is the only choice they have right now. County travel off the table.

The general secretary of the Association of Garda Sergeant and Inspectors, warned on Monday morning that any easing of the 5k travel restriction will make policing the pandemic even more challenging.

The public will think they can move more freely which “is going to make the job even more challenging,” she told RTÉ radio’s Morning Ireland.

Just for the record, I heard that interview this morning and I feel like the way you have reported it is misleading. The spokeswoman from the Gardai wasn't especially focussed on the 5k vs 10k limit. She was saying that Gardai are high risk and should be bumped up the vaccine queue. That was her main point and her focus throughout the conversation.

Go listen back to it on player if you like, but the reason she was emphasising that extending the limit would make things more challenging for Gardai is because in her next breath she reiterated the point about vaccines. I don't think she really had a strong opinion about 5k vs 10k vs any other distance.

scamalert · 29-03-2021 01:39PM

JPup wrote: »

Just for the record, I heard that interview this morning and I feel like the way you have reported it is misleading. The spokeswoman from the Gardai wasn't especially focussed on the 5k vs 10k limit. She was saying that Gardai are high risk and should be bumped up the vaccine queue. That was her main point and her focus throughout the conversation.

Go listen back to it on player if you like, but the reason she was emphasising that extending the limit would make things more challenging for Gardai is because in her next breath she reiterated the point about vaccines. I don't think she really had a strong opinion about 5k vs 10k vs any other distance.

ive very little doubt that any gardai want to stand waiving cars all day at this stage, its muppets in goverment that push this BS about travel.

Tenzor07 · 29-03-2021 01:40PM

JPup wrote: »

Just for the record, I heard that interview this morning and I feel like the way you have reported it is misleading. The spokeswoman from the Gardai wasn't especially focussed on the 5k vs 10k limit. She was saying that Gardai are high risk and should be bumped up the vaccine queue. That was her main point and her focus throughout the conversation.

Every group wants bumping up that list.. Supermarket Staff, Bus and Taxi drivers, Teachers, Gards... the lot..seems like a very top heavy list... The ordinary citizen hasn't got a hope really..

LameBeaver · 29-03-2021 01:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's just one example. :rolleyes:

Do you have any links to this funeral? Going by past occasions there should be some footage or at least tweets about it some where on social media.

RobitTV · 29-03-2021 01:41PM

JPup wrote: »

Just for the record, I heard that interview this morning and I feel like the way you have reported it is misleading. The spokeswoman from the Gardai wasn't especially focussed on the 5k vs 10k limit. She was saying that Gardai are high risk and should be bumped up the vaccine queue. That was her main point and her focus throughout the conversation.

Go listen back to it on player if you like, but the reason she was emphasising that extending the limit would make things more challenging for Gardai is because in her next breath she reiterated the point about vaccines. I don't think she really had a strong opinion about 5k vs 10k vs any other distance.

I just copied that bit from the Irish Times. Perhaps the newspaper left out the rest of what she was trying to say.

29-03-2021 01:43PM

Go on RIP.ie or something. Do you think i'm making it up? Who care's if it was Traveller's or not. There was at least 100 people outside the church with very little social distancing. Sake!

LameBeaver · 29-03-2021 01:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Go on RIP.ie or something. Do you think i'm making it up? Who care's if it was Traveller's or not. There was at least 100 people outside the church with very little social distancing. Sake!

Ah so nothing to back up your claim then chief. OK so.

29-03-2021 01:48PM

Oh yea. I go around taking photo's of people's funerals. Go back to bed you clown.

29-03-2021 01:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I genuinely can't understand how people don't have a grasp of how this virus works after a year.i Its pretty elementary. My 6 year old niece gets it.

Your 6-year-old niece is a child who has been told what to think. Much like the fella in the last thread who knew someone whose child was now terrified of leaving the house in case the virus killed them. The old "invoking the child" thing is never the gotcha people think it is.

But sure, tell me, why have you come to the conclusion that I "don't have a grasp of how the virus works"?

Or are you just offended that someone has a different level of risk tolerance to you?

ypres5 · 29-03-2021 01:53PM

LameBeaver wrote: »

Absolutely. No non essential retail or gastro pubs, restaurants etc. to open before the May bank holiday weekend, possibly not until after the June bank holiday.

Thanks for the update Micheal or is it chief?

29-03-2021 01:53PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I genuinely can't understand how people don't have a grasp of the fact people can only deal with harsh restrictions for a limited amount of time. It's pretty elementary.

I do understand how lockdowns work. But I also am cognisant that having a dinner party with unvaccinated friends is going to cause the numbers to go up rather than down. The more people mix, the more opportunity for spread.

A six year old can understand that.

LameBeaver · 29-03-2021 01:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh yea. I go around taking photo's of people's funerals. Go back to bed you clown.

I asked for any comments/pictures/footage about this supposed funeral on FB/Twitter etc. And you can`t provide any but just come out with a jibe. I wonder who exactly is the "clown" here chief.

normanoffside · 29-03-2021 01:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Your 6-year-old niece is a child who has been told what to think. Much like the fella in the last thread who knew someone whose child was now terrified of leaving the house in case the virus killed them. The old "invoking the child" thing is never the gotcha people think it is.

But sure, tell me, why have you come to the conclusion that I "don't have a grasp of how the virus works"?

Or are you just offended that someone has a different level of risk tolerance to you?

You should know by now that intelligence is the ability to repeat what you are told by NPHET, government and the media.

Anyone who can think for themselves or question what they are told is considered to be stupid.

ypres5 · 29-03-2021 01:55PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Oh yea. I go around taking photo's of people's funerals. Go back to bed you clown.

He expected a poster last week to take pictures of kids going to school as proof they had to stand outside in the rain while they got their hands sanitized so it's true to form

ypres5 · 29-03-2021 01:57PM

LameBeaver wrote: »

I asked for links to FB or social media chief. And you can`t provide any but just come out with a jibe. I wonder who exactly is the "clown" here chief.

How is he going to know whose funeral it was and why do you care so much? also no one thinks calling people chief is cool it's just reddit tier cringe

29-03-2021 01:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Your 6-year-old niece is a child who has been told what to think. Much like the fella in the last thread who knew someone whose child was now terrified of leaving the house in case the virus killed them. The old "invoking the child" thing is never the gotcha people think it is.

But sure, tell me, why have you come to the conclusion that I "don't have a grasp of how the virus works"?

Or are you just offended that someone has a different level of risk tolerance to you?

I'm simplify it for you.

If unvaccinated people have dinner parties, this will increase community transmission as you have different households mixing. You have no immunity to this virus. Could spread it to the parents etc.

I don't particularly care about your risk tolerance, I was just stating that your assumption that it's safe to have dinner parties with unvaccinated friends was misguided and displayed cloudy judgement.

29-03-2021 01:58PM

LameBeaver wrote: »

I asked for links to FB or social media chief. And you can`t provide any but just come out with a jibe. I wonder who exactly is the "clown" here chief.

Are you not asleep yet? Ignored!

29-03-2021 02:01PM

ypres5 wrote: »

How is he going to know whose funeral it was and why do you care so much? also no one thinks calling people chief is cool it's just reddit tier cringe

Well firstly, he insinuated it was a Traveller's funeral just because there were a lot of people outside the church. But it doesn't matter because he only takes Facebook posts as proof.

29-03-2021 02:08PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

What you seem to be missing is that people are increasingly willing to tolerate that increased risk of spread in order to return to a more normal life. This was always going to happen if lockdown went on for too long.

I totally get what you are saying. Lockdowns are rough. To be honest, I find them difficult and I am working most of the time.

But the poster was suggesting that because he wasn't having dinner with unvaccinated over 80s, that there was no risk. I was just point out he was incorrect or maybe speaking disingenuously.

gozunda · 29-03-2021 02:09PM

Nokotan wrote: »

With the median age range of the new cases falling (less vulnerable people getting infected) and the most vulnerable vaccinated does this not massively affect any previous models to predict future hospitalization and ICU?

Add to that mass testing of asymptomatic people who are not sick possibly increasing the number of positive tests.

From what I remember the positivity rate is low and going down too.

Not sure. Recent 14 day data continue to show that approx 50% of all those in hospital with covid are under 65. Dont have an age breakdown but there is evidence that significant number of all those in hospital with covid do not have underlying conditions.

How much is attributable to vaccinations and / or the much higher rate of transmissibility of the
B.1.1.1.7 variant which is now dominant we don't know ..

LameBeaver · 29-03-2021 02:12PM

ypres5 wrote: »

How is he going to know whose funeral it was and why do you care so much? also no one thinks calling people chief is cool it's just reddit tier cringe

If someone makes a claim such as this poster and for that matter others have then it is entirely justifiable to ask for some evidence to be provided that events happened as claimed. And as for your bolded comment I`ll take it on advisement chief.

Whatsisname · 29-03-2021 02:15PM

ypres5 wrote: »

He expected a poster last week to take pictures of kids going to school as proof they had to stand outside in the rain while they got their hands sanitized so it's true to form

Reminds me of an old poster who regularly posted in an aggressive, superior manner and also hounded someone for days to take pictures of their illegal haircut so he could see.

PTH2009 · 29-03-2021 02:15PM

Sadly can't see this been the end of Level 5 in this country

If numbers don't fall come mid May then a returning Dr Tony will want Level 5 once again.

Autumn/Winter 2021 is a big worry

Graham · 29-03-2021 02:15PM

gozunda wrote: »

Not sure. Recent 14 day data cintinue to show that approx 50 of all those in hospital with covid are under 50. Dont gave a age breakdown but there is evidence that significant number ic all those in hospital with covid do not have underlying conditions.

I think we're going to see one of two things happen as the vaccine rollout progresses.

Either the number of hospitalisations will steadily drop, or the average age of those hospitalised will drop.

Hopefully it will be the number of hospitalisations as that should be the best indicator restrictions can change.

manofwisdom · 29-03-2021 02:17PM

What will these April 5th restrictions be called, Level 5 minus, Level 4 plus or something else?

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