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Covid 19 Part XXXIV-249,437 ROI(4,906 deaths) 120,195 NI (2,145 deaths)(01/05)Read OP

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  • #1262
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    HSE 8pm Report out

    In Hospital: 328 (+9)
    In ICU: 68 (+3) with 2 deaths.

    This time last week:
    In Hospital: 366
    In ICU: 80


  • #1263
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    covidrelease wrote: »
    Our rural country throws up erratic numbers. Monaghan was the highest back in February but is almost covid free now.

    Yeah, Offaly taking that crown now.
    Monaghan doing better than Leitrim now, that says ALOT!


  • #1264
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    covidrelease wrote: »
    You are claiming UK restrictions are being policed, then post links to several months ago, which is past tense.

    Any links to police actions in relation to restrictions this past week?

    Well an article from January is not historical as you claimed is it?

    The same article which details the UKs governments statement on the policing of UK restrictions including parking benches and other things.

    And yeah relevant to the point made.

    "This past week"! Sure that's "past tense" as well. We couldn't be having that!

    Heres one from the past 48 hours or do you think that's too old?

    https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/19190658.7-reasons-people-broke-lockdown-rules-south-essex/

    Any links showing that there's absolutely no police actions in relation to restrictions this past week? Google is your friend btw.

    Btw I have question for you.
    covidrelease wrote: »
    How sure can you be? It emerged at the worst possible point in the cycle, short days, cold weather, public apathy, Christmas gatherings, christmas dinner etc. etc.

    If it never existed we may have been in the exact same position. Christmas was always going to be a **** show.

    So is it that you're saying its part of a conspiracy or?


  • #1265
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭prunudo


    7 day numbers show 130 odd more cases from 20,000 more tests, 5 day averages being used but Wed to Sun are always higher anyway, hospital cases going up but its weekend so no discharges, constant referencing the new variant even though its been here for over 3 months.
    Do nphet and the media really take us for fools on a Monday morning as they try and spin the worst angle about our current situation while they try to justify opening up the bare minimum next week.


  • #1266
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,404 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    prunudo wrote:
    7 day numbers show 130 odd more cases from 20,000 more tests, 5 day averages being used but Wed to Sun are always higher anyway, hospital cases going up but its weekend so no discharges, constant referencing the new variant even though its been here for over 3 months. Do nphet and the media really take us for fools on a Monday morning as they try and spin the worst angle about our current situation while they try to justify opening up the bare minimum next week.

    Nobody is trying to fool you


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  • #1267
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Nobody is trying to fool you

    Well why are they trying to paint a picture of things being far worse than they are.


  • #1268
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,404 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    prunudo wrote:
    Well why are they trying to paint a picture of things being far worse than they are.

    Because their opinion doesn't match your opinion


  • #1269
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Because their opinion doesn't match your opinion

    Going by what I've witnessed over the last few weeks, there are many others that don't share nphets opinion either.


  • #1270
    Rosita
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Maybe if we didn't have the UK variant we would be well under 600 cases per day?
    prunudo wrote: »
    Going by what I've witnessed over the last few weeks, there are many others that don't share nphets opinion either.

    To be fair I wouldn't assume the tendency to breach restrictions to be the product of deep research and thought on the virus and its potential spread before deciding they "don't share" NPHET's views. Some people just think that they are beyond the law. That has happened in Germany and lots of other countries too.


  • #1271
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Rosita wrote: »
    To be fair I wouldn't assume the tendency to breach restrictions to be the product of deep research and thought on the virus and its potential spread before deciding they "don't share" NPHET's views. Some people just think that they are beyond the law. That has happened in Germany and lots of other countries too.

    Wouldn't say the people I've observed think they're above the law, they've just done their own risk assessment and now doing activities which are lower risk.
    Though there will always a minority alright who don't care and will continue to meet indoors in groups, I think most people are now viewing the current situation with less risk than nphet, but that wouldn't be hard in fairness.


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  • #1272
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    5 of the 8 age groups in the reports have had increasing cases over the past week. Initially it was younger cohorts but now it's every age group below 45 is increasing.

    Easter holidays will put a dampener on it but if restrictions not followed there's enough of a critical mass across all demographics for it to rise very quickly.


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  • #1273
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    HSE 8pm Report out

    In Hospital: 328 (+9)
    In ICU: 68 (+3) with 2 deaths.

    This time last week:
    In Hospital: 366
    In ICU: 80

    A much smaller weekend "increase" than recent weekends.

    Could breakthrough 300 Tuesday/Wednesday.


  • #1274
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Less of that positive spin, don't you know we're experiencing a surge and NPHET are very concerned?

    Deeply concerned.


  • #1275
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    covidrelease wrote: »
    NPHET are saying social mixing has increased a lot in recent weeks, yet this highly transmissible UK variant is making no inroads.

    You keep saying that but the fact remains that we went through months of level 5 to end up on 600 cases a day.

    You can keep playing it down all you like but the figures are higher than they should be.


  • #1276
    Rosita
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    prunudo wrote: »

    I think most people are now viewing the current situation with less risk than nphet, but that wouldn't be hard in fairness.

    Yeah, I suppose the difference is that if there's another surge it'll NPHET rather than the anonymous person who breaches restrictions who'll get the flak. Inevitably that'll govern behaviour.


  • #1277
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭celt262


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    You keep saying that but the fact remains that we went through months of level 5 to end up on 600 cases a day.

    You can keep playing it down all you like but the figures are higher than they should be.

    Its the varient.


  • #1278
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    celt262 wrote: »
    Its the varient.

    Source?


  • #1279
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    If we can only keep a steady state with level 5 restrictions what hope do we have if we open anything.

    I can see some low risk opening hoping to divert activity outside but not more than that.


  • #1280
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    You keep saying that but the fact remains that we went through months of level 5 to end up on 600 cases a day.

    You can keep playing it down all you like but the figures are higher than they should be.

    In reality we are not in Level 5 at the moment though, an awful lot of things are operating secretly.

    We started January in level 5 for sure but it's not there in reality now.


  • #1281
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    If we can only keep a steady state with level 5 restrictions what hope do we have if we open anything.

    I can see some low risk opening hoping to divert activity outside but not more than that.

    Vaccines?


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  • #1282
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,472 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    14 day EPI report

    https://twitter.com/hpscireland/status/1376451440835764225?s=19


  • #1283
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    You keep saying that but the fact remains that we went through months of level 5 to end up on 600 cases a day.

    You can keep playing it down all you like but the figures are higher than they should be.

    Has the testing gone up much i.e. sufficient to justify the increase in cases? If positivity staying low (i.e. just over 3%?) is the increase in cases a result of increased testing?

    If they tested 1m people tomorrow we'd have 30k cases no? Or am I getting this all wrong? :)

    Or, do increased cases inevitably lead to increased hospitalisations if they are only arising out of increased testing? Hospitalisations are occuring regardless of case numbers as case numbers are only a metric from testing, if you know what I am trying to say.


  • #1284
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Has the testing gone up much i.e. sufficient to justify the increase in cases? If positivity staying low (i.e. just over 3%?) is the increase in cases a result of increased testing?

    If they tested 1m people tomorrow we'd have 30k cases no? Or am I getting this all wrong? :)

    If we tested 1 million people the positivity would go down. We have increased testing (including walk in test centres). As nolan said on Thursday its hard to know whether cases are increasing or plateauing with increased detection.

    For example the positivity in the walk in testing centres was around 1% on day 1 and they are new.
    Stheno wrote: »
    Vaccines?


    Apologies statement corrected

    If we can only keep a steady state with level 5 restrictions what hope do we have if we open anything until a sufficient bulk of the population is vaccinated.


  • #1285
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Construction isn't all shut it seems, as I can see construction workers operating on a building in Dublin right now.


  • #1286
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,106 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Open up all outdoor activity . Give people something to do . At the moment we are forcing people to mix in each others homes.

    Open up all outdoor sports . Allow families to meet outdoors.

    Otherwise we will be in the same position at the end of April


  • #1287
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Construction isn't all shut it seems, as I can see construction workers operating on a building in Dublin right now.

    That's right. At the very least any Foreign Investment construction has been allowed to continue.


  • #1288
    big syke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    covidrelease wrote: »
    In reality we are not in Level 5 at the moment though, an awful lot of things are operating secretly.

    Source?


  • #1289
    The Big Easy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭The Big Easy


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    14 day EPI report

    https://twitter.com/hpscireland/status/1376451440835764225?s=19

    Do they usually give that breakdown? I've never seen it before, would've been very interesting previously.


  • #1290
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    big syke wrote: »
    Source?

    :pac::pac: open your own eyes


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  • #1291
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Open up all outdoor activity . Give people something to do . At the moment we are forcing people to mix in each others homes.

    Open up all outdoor sports . Allow families to meet outdoors.

    Otherwise we will be in the same position at the end of April

    I know that, and you know that, but unfortunately the covideers pretend that if it can't be seen it is not happening.


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