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Maritime News Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    https://twitter.com/SStapczynski/status/1374675583142039556?s=19

    Looks like it is finally free. Thankfully for all involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,261 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    Supposedly that ship has history it was involved in a near collision with a ferry near hamburg in 2019


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,764 ✭✭✭✭josip


    What do the BBC mean when they say ?
    Egypt has reopened the canal's older channel to divert some traffic until the grounded ship can move again.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56505413

    Where the ship is stuck is only single channel?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    josip wrote: »
    What do the BBC mean when they say ?


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56505413

    Where the ship is stuck is only single channel?

    Not sure what they are getting at there. They are currently backing vessels behind the Ever Given astern down to Suez so it's going to be a long closure. Insane!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    josip wrote: »
    What do the BBC mean when they say ?


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56505413

    Where the ship is stuck is only single channel?

    That quote has been doing the rounds but is wrong, the ship is stuck in a single channel section.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1374905729329606656?s=19

    As a vessel operator do you now go around Africa or wait. What if your cargo spoils over the blockage, who is going to take liability? I'm going to say under normal conditions the shipowner of each individual ship should be covered but this is a bit different I guess. Some very interesting reports will come out of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,764 ✭✭✭✭josip


    From my rural background, my instinct could be to pull it out from the same direction it went in.
    But all 3 tugs are on the wrong side for that.
    Is that because the tugs are based north of where it grounded and can't get around or would there be other thinking behind what they are trying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    josip wrote: »
    From my rural background, my instinct could be to pull it out from the same direction it went in.
    But all 3 tugs are on the wrong side for that.
    Is that because the tugs are based north of where it grounded and can't get around or would there be other thinking behind what they are trying?

    to me the tugs look placed to push the stern to port. If the around the bow has been sufficiently cleared then the ship should be free to move in that direction. that should leave it parallel with the canal again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,185 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I'd get 2 really big ships, one on either side, with a towline attached, one on the bow, and one on the stern, and try and gently twist it off the bank.....

    basically get 2 massive ships to act as tugs......

    finding 2 willing captains (with the approval to do so from head office mind), would be the difficult part..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭pawdee


    Just go around the Cape of Good Hope? Not that much of a hardship surely!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,261 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    There was talk of taking containers off to lighten the load which would raise it in the water but that in itself would be a huge operation given the height of the ship and where it is in the canal and the number you would need to take off. Likely you bring another smaller container ship with its own cranes alongside.

    Sunday/Monday supposed to be highest tide so potentially best chance of it clearing then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    pawdee wrote: »
    Just go around the Cape of Good Hope? Not that much of a hardship surely!

    just the matter of an extra 4600Nm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭Odelay


    josip wrote: »
    From my rural background, my instinct could be to pull it out from the same direction it went in.
    But all 3 tugs are on the wrong side for that.
    Is that because the tugs are based north of where it grounded and can't get around or would there be other thinking behind what they are trying?

    They’re trying the pushy pushy turnie turnie method.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,764 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Dohvolle wrote: »
    This demonstrates how easily those with ill intent can easily shut down one of the world's major shipping choke points. While the world focused on airport security after 9/11, a ship of this size having even the most minor of incidents in the wrong place, lets say off the UK coast, could shut sown the largest ports in Europe for weeks, and hugely impact european Trade. Just look at the panic since the UK stopped becoming a land bridge? Imagine if all the ships that go to Rotterdam, Hamburg or Antwerp, could no longer use the channel because a ship of this size had dumped its load of containers into the water?
    The reliance of the sea lanes as a means of supply is often taken for granted. The ease of which they can be shut down more so.


    Interesting point, but it would be interesting to find anywhere else in the world, apart from some sections of the Panama Canal that would have such a big impact.
    Your Rotterdam-Channel-container example would be a tiny fraction of the inconvenience of this I think.

    • Ships could still make slow way in the Channel.
    • Multiple ships could be brought in to remove the containers.
    • Ships could be diverted to alternative ports.
    • Only Northern Europe would be affected
    Even further up the Suez and they might been able to use the spare channel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,185 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Dohvolle wrote: »
    Imagine if all the ships that go to Rotterdam, Hamburg or Antwerp, could no longer use the channel because a ship of this size had dumped its load of containers into the water?

    I'd imagine though the repercussions of such an incident in the English Channel wouldn't be as harsh as they are now with the Suez canal blocked...

    If 1 of the channels in the English Channel was fouled, could/would they operate a stop/go system like we see on our roads, and go to a single directional lane only, getting outbound traffic to depart at the right time, and inbound traffic to slow on approach to the channel to arrive as the 'gate' opens.. Time the gates with the tides to get traffic through quicker...

    Would still be havoc though!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    It seems to be all tugs that are around it, surely a suction dredge would be available, used for maintenance on the canal? the ship is 16 metres deep, the further out the reach from the Bank the less effective the excavators will be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,764 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Has Musk not offered to free it yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭kub


    yiddo59 wrote: »
    Irish Ferries to charter Blue Star 1. Extra tonnage on the Cherbourg run?

    https://www.niferry.co.uk/irish-ferries-to-charter-greek-ferry-blue-star-1/




    Irish Ferries also said today it would add the RoRo passenger ferry Blue Star 1 to its Rosslare to Pembroke Dock route.



    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0326/1206241-irish-ferries-new-route/


    Irish Ferries must see some potential here, it seems to go against the common avoid the landbridge mentality by Irish hauliers, The Isle of Innishmore is going to operate a new IF service between Dover and Calais.


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    scotchy wrote: »
    Still in Dun Laoghaire this evening.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2021/0327/1206508-sailor-repatriation/

    Most of the crew have left.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,843 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000



    Handy little end of first quarter sales boost there.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,261 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Potential for the trawler to end up being auctioned off on the cheap me thinks.


    Good to see the crew getting home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    https://www.thejournal.ie/ellie-adham-rescue-5393581-Mar2021/?amp=1&utm_source=twitter_short&__twitter_impression=true

    Glad to see this hopefully coming to a happy ending. Tough night for the crew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    I think that article is wrong in saying there are windows knocked in on the trawler, a tug was going to tow it and they blew in windows, they returned to port on their own power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Looks like the tow line has broken again, no longer under tow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Helicopter hovering directly above and another nearby for cover, at a guess they are taking crew off.
    Boat is listing, taking crew off, one helicopter away, presume with some or all of the crew, the second one is on scene now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    I think that article is wrong in saying there are windows knocked in on the trawler, a tug was going to tow it and they blew in windows, they returned to port on their own power.

    Correct, the tug had the windows knocked in. Sounds treacherous enough now with the crew being airlifted but glad all are safe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,261 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Hopefully the boat can be saved, always loved the rather flash paint design on it...
    astillerosriadeaviles-ellie_adham_01-1.jpg
    https://www.shipyards.es/en/ellie-adhamh-2


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