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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #9242
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Benimar wrote: »
    Hopefully some 'noise' still in the swabs from Paddys Day. Total Swabs for yesterday and today were 1,020 v 722 for the same 2 days last week.

    Past 7 days rolling average of swabs:
    23/3: 587
    16/3: 533
    9/2: 524
    2/3: 643

    It's very easy to dismiss a 9% weekly increase as a blip, but as caveat emptor shows, by the time you accept it's not a blip, your're up **** creek!


  • #9243
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    Why isn't 500 cases a day not great? what's the magic no?

    Once hospital admissions are not declining i think it is great, especially if we keep it at that level with schools back.

    500 cases a day with 300 in hospital and nothing increasing is enough for level 3 IMO.

    Its not great because NPHET were hoping for 100-300 a day by now, I agree level 3 outdoor pubs and restaurants open is where we should be for April, but NPHET and Martins "slow and cautious" mantra means not much will happen.


  • #9244
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,210 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Those cases would be inevitably higher if there weren't restrictions though. No idea what you mean about the last bit tbh.

    I meant that many people are still having gatherings among themselves at each other's homes. Restricting people's socialising is like banning the consumption of alcohol in the US in the 1920s - it doesn't work!


  • #9245
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    covidrelease wrote: »
    No need of level 5 lockdown here, its effectively being ignored anyway, .

    I would say 90% of people I talk to are 95%+ compliant.


  • #9246
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    I would say 90% of people I talk to are 95%+ compliant.

    That's an incredible statistic. I would say of the people I know the inverse is true.


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  • #9247
    big syke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    I would say 90% of people I talk to are 95%+ compliant.

    What 5% of the restrictions do they not follow?

    For me 75% ish i know adhere to everthing that is forced upon them i.e. non essentialshops, sports, gym, football etc etc and in general ignore stuff not forced upon them the not meeting outside, staying at home except for essential purposes, 5km to a point.

    About 25%+ get haircuts, nails and the likes on the "black market".

    Noone i know is adhering 100%. Not saying it is widespread but just from my own friends, family, work colleagues even my 99 year old grandmother.

    Other friends/family have similar experiences with their own family, work friends etc


  • #9248
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Caught the tail end of a radio segment yesterday talking about RTE profits (was not on an RTE station!) 2020 was the first year in many years that RTE turned a profit. This was helped significantly by increased advertising revenue due to higher viewing figures shows like Prime Time and CB live.
    There will be some in Montrose sad when this is all over!

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • #9249
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    I would say 90% of people I talk to are 95%+ compliant.



    I find that hard to believe at this point, its generally gone out the window, to various degrees.


  • #9250
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,003 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    big syke wrote: »
    What 5% of the restrictions do they not follow?

    For me most people i know adhere to everthing that is forced upon them i.e. non essentialshops, sports, gym etc etc and in general ignore the not meeting outside, staying at home except for essential purposes, 5km to a point.

    About 25%+ get haircuts, nails and the likes.

    Many people I know are going well beyond their 5km for exercise - walks, hikes, cycles, swims etc. I have no problem with that.

    I even know one person that says he is going for a Covid test when stopped by Gardai :)

    I drive across Galway county once a week to shop for an elderly relative (2 hour round trip). In the past year I have been stopped 5 times at checkpoints. Twice in 2020 and 3 times on one January day when the Gardai were doing a visible blitz. Not one checkpoint since.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #9251
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,414 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Theboinkmaster wrote:
    500 cases a day with 300 in hospital and nothing increasing is enough for level 3 IMO.
    Yeah if you want to be back at 2000 cases and hospitals packed in two weeks.


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  • #9252
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    covidrelease wrote: »
    Its not great because NPHET were hoping for 100-300 a day by now, I agree level 3 outdoor pubs and restaurants open is where we should be for April, but NPHET and Martins "slow and cautious" mantra means not much will happen.

    By my calculations, taking our population as 4.9 million, 200 cases a day would mean a 14 day rate of 57 per 100,000. At present our national 14 day rate is 157 per 100,000.

    But for the record, there are 5 counties below that magic rate of 57 per 100,000 (being Leitrim, Kilkenny, Cork, Kerry and Clare).

    If you use the 300 cases a day figure, the rate goes up to 86 per 100,000. We have 10 counties at 90 or lower. On top of those 10, other counties, like Limerick, seem to falling all the time and should join that cohort soon (in passing, making quite the area in the south west of Clare, Limerick, Kerry and Cork which would be very low covid).

    That hopefully tells us these lower national figures are perfectly possible.

    Separately, I believe it also means there has to be some consideration to some class of regionalisation in the announcement slated for next week.


  • #9253
    big syke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Yeah if you want to be back at 2000 cases and hospitals packed in two weeks.

    Whos to say that would happen. And before you say it we are in a different place today then in December/Jan.

    It is not comparible.


  • #9254
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    Caught the tail end of a radio segment yesterday talking about RTE profits (was not on an RTE station!) 2020 was the first year in many years that RTE turned a profit. This was helped significantly by increased advertising revenue due to higher viewing figures shows like Prime Time and CB live.
    There will be some in Montrose sad when this is all over!

    Profiting from the misery of others, who would have thunk it. Keep the fear pumped out, and discredited spoofers like Sam McConkey in the limelight. RTÉ have no shame, any notion of a balanced narrative long abandoned. And the taxpayers funding this dinosaur are being betrayed and vilified to this very day.


  • #9255
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Yeah if you want to be back at 2000 cases and hospitals packed in two weeks.

    i dont believe level 3 in april/may would do that.

    Xmas did that - going from level 5 to zero for 3 weeks leading up to xmas.


  • #9256
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    The trend in the GP referral data would not make you happy.

    This is Monday's data, so you always see an increase after the weekend, but the last week has been bad whatever way you look at it.

    https://tomorrowscare.ie/covid/2021-03-23_COVID_GP_Survey_Results.pdf


  • #9257
    big syke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    i dont believe level 3 in april/may would do that.

    Xmas did that - going from level 5 to zero for 3 weeks leading up to xmas.

    Exactly. Plus no vaccinations of the vulnerable or HCW.


  • #9258
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    Caught the tail end of a radio segment yesterday talking about RTE profits (was not on an RTE station!) 2020 was the first year in many years that RTE turned a profit. This was helped significantly by increased advertising revenue due to higher viewing figures shows like Prime Time and CB live.
    There will be some in Montrose sad when this is all over!

    Fair play to them. Milking the last bit of attention out of their ever dwindling aged audience by scaring the **** out of them.

    Says a lot when they can only improve ratings when people are literally locked indoors.


  • #9259
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Yeah if you want to be back at 2000 cases and hospitals packed in two weeks.

    No chance, back in December we had hotels packing in 250 for the All Ireland final and staying there all day, along with huge gatherings Christmas day and people on the move en masse, nationally.

    Also Christmas shopping packing non essential retail.

    The biggest culprit was social mixing indoors.

    Allow gatherings outdoors and it will be fine.


  • #9260
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    I would say 90% of people I talk to are 95%+ compliant.
    ek motor wrote: »
    That's an incredible statistic. I would say of the people I know the inverse is true.

    I'd be in the first group. 90% of people I know are 95% compliant.

    The ones who aren't are the same ones who weren't last April or November either.

    Certainly based on my experience and discussions with friends and work colleagues, the level of compliance is still incredibly high.


  • #9261
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    political analyst wrote: »
    I meant that many people are still having gatherings among themselves at each other's homes. Restricting people's socialising is like banning the consumption of alcohol in the US in the 1920s - it doesn't work!

    No restrictions are 100% effective. A minority are but majority aren't. Doesn't mean it justifies not having restrictions at all.


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  • #9262
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    big syke wrote: »
    Exactly. Plus no vaccinations of the vulnerable or HCW.


    And another little bit of herd immunity built thanks to the Christmas wave, even a full repeat of Christmas would take longer to get out of hand.


  • #9263
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    i dont believe level 3 in april/may would do that.

    Xmas did that - going from level 5 to zero for 3 weeks leading up to xmas.

    Eh, we went from Level 5 to Level 3 on the 1st December.


  • #9264
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Benimar wrote: »
    Eh, we went from Level 5 to Level 3 on the 1st December.

    Surely poster meant mentally not legally.


  • #9265
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    blade1 wrote: »
    Surely poster meant mentally not legally.

    Probably, but the fear is the same mentality would apply again.


  • #9266
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Benimar wrote: »
    Probably, but the fear is the same mentality would apply again.

    Not if indoor gathering are not allowed.

    Outdoors all the way, both at home and pubs / restaurants. Restrict numbers.

    Modified Level 3 so to speak.


  • #9267
    Just Saying
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    I would say 90% of people I talk to are 95%+ compliant.

    I heard recently of a survey where 97% of people say they are more compliant with restrictions than the average person..As our American friends might say ...Go figure!!

    I must try to find out who did the survey but it highlights the difference between perception and reality.


  • #9268
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,414 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    big syke wrote:
    Whos to say that would happen. And before you say it we are in a different place today then in December/Jan.
    It is not comparible.

    If you relax restrictions then some are going to push the boundaries.
    So if you say no house calls you'll have these people meeting one other family. You say one household can visit another they'll have three or four families over.
    That's just the way some people act and in a pandemic if one of those families get covid you'll have a large cluster very quickly with relaxed restrictions.


  • #9269
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,282 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    covidrelease wrote: »
    Not if indoor gathering are not allowed.

    Outdoors all the way, both at home and pubs / restaurants. Restrict numbers.

    Modified Level 3 so to speak.

    Everything outdoors should be encouraged now . Outdoor eating , outdoor pubs , people allowed meet outdoors , picnic areas and parks should encourage with benches and seating areas . People should be encouraged to bring picnics and stay outdoors as much as they can


  • #9270
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    I find it shocking that TV viewership and advertising revenue is up during these never ending lockdowns. It's not like there's loads of options of an evening.


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  • #9271
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    So on the GP data on 15 March was 0.42 likey covid and nearly doubled in a week to 0.81 to March 22nd. This is alarming tbh .It does seem to be the start of another wave unless St Patrick's day has lead to a backlog of people reporting for testing


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