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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #9212
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    Concerning

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1374326277927272451?s=19

    Their infection rate has been high for months, nothing new.


  • #9213
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    There'll always be a low % of reinfection, but if cases skyrocket, reinfections do too.


  • #9214
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    ek motor wrote: »
    Their infection rate has been high for months, nothing new.

    Apart from the accelerating number of reinfections.

    But once again it can be dismissed as "only a few cases out of millions" and "impossible to prove" or even "that's just scaremongering".

    It's becoming very clear that reinfection is very possible, and this will have an impact on vaccination strategy.


  • #9215
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,694 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Apart from the accelerating number of reinfections.

    But once again it can be dismissed as "only a few cases out of millions" and "impossible to prove" or even "that's just scaremongering".

    It's becoming very clear that reinfection is very possible, and this will have an impact on vaccination strategy.

    We all knew that reinfection was possible, it has been seen before, but in very low numbers.
    Its not entirely surprising that a country with rising infections will also see rising reinfections, the two go hand in hand.


  • #9216
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Apart from the accelerating number of reinfections.

    But once again it can be dismissed as "only a few cases out of millions" and "impossible to prove" or even "that's just scaremongering".

    It's becoming very clear that reinfection is very possible, and this will have an impact on vaccination strategy.


    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/czech-republic/

    Have a look at the 7 day moving average .

    Reinfection is also nothing new.


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  • #9217
    LillyIsland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭LillyIsland


    “Nearly a year after California Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered the nation’s first statewide shutdown because of the coronavirus, masks remain mandated, indoor dining and other activities are significantly limited, and Disneyland remains closed.
    By contrast, Florida has no statewide restrictions. Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has prohibited municipalities from fining people who refuse to wear masks. And Disney World has been open since July.
    Despite their differing approaches, California and Florida have experienced almost identical outcomes in COVID-19 case rates.”


    https://apnews.com/article/public-health-health-florida-coronavirus-pandemic-ron-desantis-889df3826d4da96447b329f524c33047?fbclid=IwAR3K8pVYMoKDzawm4kfvBNzx7G0LmyAtrLf2RdgxgkpypL1_scIqZCQ3-Ho


  • #9218
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,835 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Donnelly said people had to make themselves known once flight has landed on radio earlier. Dunno if they can be picked up at immigration based on flight or passport info if they don't though.

    facepalm


  • #9219
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,558 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Apart from the accelerating number of reinfections.

    But once again it can be dismissed as "only a few cases out of millions" and "impossible to prove" or even "that's just scaremongering".

    It's becoming very clear that reinfection is very possible, and this will have an impact on vaccination strategy.

    The reinfections in Czech republic happened after 5 months on average.

    We also know that reinfections tend to be milder and they're rare.

    I wouldn't be too worried. It's certainly possible, but unlikely.

    Doubt it'll affect the vaccine programme in any significant way.


  • #9220
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Donnelly said people had to make themselves known once flight has landed on radio earlier. Dunno if they can be picked up at immigration based on flight or passport info if they don't though.

    The mad thing about different passengers being treated differently, is that they all have been sitting together, in the same small space, for the last couple of hours!


  • #9221
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,334 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Wombatman wrote: »
    The mad thing about different passengers being treated differently, is that they all have been sitting together, in the same small space, for the last couple of hours!

    Yup


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  • #9222
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Wombatman wrote: »
    The mad thing about different passengers being treated differently, is that they all have been sitting together, in the same small space, for the last couple of hours!


    However, are passengers not also required to have a test before a flight?


  • #9223
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    However, are passengers not also required to have a test before a flight?


    They are but it may be that some may be infected and not be producing enough viral load to test positive when they are tested. They could be infections the next day. There have been some cases recently that have been as a result of travel from overseas so the requirement to have a test does not stop all travel related transmission. That is why we need everyone to be quarantined.


  • #9224
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I underage massive concern people have that cases have surged after schools return from a 7 day average the day before they went back of 648 to a massive 543 yesterday. Shocking.

    Also the stat that primary schools kids, who make up more than 10% of the population now have 10% of cases, at a time when most other age groups have no reason to meet in groups at all.

    You might be right. Belgium trying to be a bit more cautious as their PM is calling out the role in infections. It's not like NPHet were saying it's nothing to worry about.

    https://twitter.com/DGBassani/status/1373380750356135941?s=20

    It's hard to spot the start of exponential growth as we all know at this stage.

    547866.jpeg


  • #9225
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    LillyIsland wrote: »
    “Nearly a year after California Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered the nation’s first statewide shutdown because of the coronavirus, masks remain mandated, indoor dining and other activities are significantly limited, and Disneyland remains closed.
    By contrast, Florida has no statewide restrictions. Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has prohibited municipalities from fining people who refuse to wear masks. And Disney World has been open since July.
    Despite their differing approaches, California and Florida have experienced almost identical outcomes in COVID-19 case rates.”


    https://apnews.com/article/public-health-health-florida-coronavirus-pandemic-ron-desantis-889df3826d4da96447b329f524c33047?fbclid=IwAR3K8pVYMoKDzawm4kfvBNzx7G0LmyAtrLf2RdgxgkpypL1_scIqZCQ3-Ho

    No need of level 5 lockdown here, its effectively being ignored anyway, let people do as they please outdoors, maximum of 20 people in gatherings at the start and see what happens.

    Draconian punishment for indoor breaches though.

    People need to start seeing through the RTE led negative narrative.


  • #9226
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Eh?

    https://twitter.com/BarbaraMSmyth/status/1374356387766079489?s=19


  • #9227
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Cancer services will not fully resume until year-end under HSE's pandemic plan

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/cancer-services-will-not-fully-resume-until-year-end-under-hse-s-pandemic-plan-1.4517265

    :(:(:(:(

    "BUT OUR HEALTH SERVICE WAS NOT OVERRUN AND WE COPED FINE WITH 8000 CASES A DAY, OPEN EVERYTHING UP"


  • #9228
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,212 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Given that the Health Act is from 1947 - the era of polio, cholera, TB etc - how is the imposition of the current restrictions proportionate?

    Even with the new variants of SARS-CoV-2, this virus is still, overall, much less likely to cause potentially fatal symptoms than polio or cholera or TB or smallpox.

    Furthermore, what is the point of continuing with lockdown when it doesn't work?


  • #9229
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1374360037473275906


  • #9230
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Amazing positivity rate today. How do all those people who lost their sht Sunday feel now


  • #9231
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    landofthetree wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1374360037473275906

    Good positivity rate again. Positive swabs seem to be very stagnant at ~500, but don't appear to be worsening much anyway.


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  • #9232
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,334 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    political analyst wrote: »
    Furthermore, what is the point of continuing with lockdown when it doesn't work?

    That's a fairly blanket statement. What do you mean exactly?


  • #9233
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,212 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Eod100 wrote: »
    That's a fairly blanket statement. What do you mean exactly?

    I meant that the lockdown has failed to bring down the numbers of Covid cases that have required hospitalisation, especially those cases in ICU.

    These restrictions are like banning people from having sex during an epidemic of HIV or of some other sexually-transmitted infection.

    Furthermore, the lockdown is comparable to the prohibition of alcohol in the US in the 1920s - we know how that turned out!


  • #9234
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Hopefully some 'noise' still in the swabs from Paddys Day. Total Swabs for yesterday and today were 1,020 v 722 for the same 2 days last week.


  • #9235
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    Benimar wrote: »
    Hopefully some 'noise' still in the swabs from Paddys Day. Total Swabs for yesterday and today were 1,020 v 722 for the same 2 days last week.


    Looks like stagnation at best, slowly increasing at worst


  • #9236
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,334 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    political analyst wrote: »
    I meant that the lockdown has failed to bring down the numbers of Covid cases that have required hospitalisation, especially those cases in ICU.

    These restrictions are like banning people from having sex during an epidemic of HIV or of some other sexually-transmitted infection.

    Furthermore, the lockdown is comparable to the prohibition of alcohol in the US in the 1920s - we know how that turned out!

    Those cases would be inevitably higher if there weren't restrictions though. No idea what you mean about the last bit tbh.


  • #9237
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    Amazing positivity rate today. How do all those people who lost their sht Sunday feel now

    I wouldn't be reading too much into a few days numbers.


  • #9238
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    All this narrative around "surge" and cases increasing - media hysteria....

    At worst we've stagnated.


  • #9239
    covidrelease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭covidrelease


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    All this narrative around "surge" and cases increasing - media hysteria....

    At worst we've stagnated.

    Thats not great considering increased mixing and a plan to ease restrictions and allow even more mixing.

    Hopefully the vaccine rollout outruns it at this stage, between vaccinated and those who already had it could we be at 25% immunity now?


  • #9240
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Benimar wrote: »
    Hopefully some 'noise' still in the swabs from Paddys Day. Total Swabs for yesterday and today were 1,020 v 722 for the same 2 days last week.

    32% more tests compared to same day last week. Likely some carry over from Paddy's Day.


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  • #9241
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    covidrelease wrote: »
    Thats not great considering increased mixing and a plan to ease restrictions and allow even more mixing.

    Hopefully the vaccine rollout outruns it at this stage, between vaccinated and those who already had it could we be at 25% immunity now?

    Why isn't 500 cases a day not great? what's the magic no?

    Once hospital admissions are not declining i think it is great, especially if we keep it at that level with schools back.

    500 cases a day with 300 in hospital and nothing increasing is enough for level 3 IMO.


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