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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Thats because they're all lizards


    Not gonna lie

    I laughed

    You .... you meant it as a joke though right? ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    robbiezero wrote: »
    The maximum reach of the tide up the beach in Dollymount is 5.1km from my house.
    If they would just increase the distance restrictions by even 100 metres, I could feel the sea water once again cover my feet or run it through my hands. This would make a huge difference for me.

    Is it 5.1km either by walking or car ?

    It's likely less if you could go directly there or as the crow flies. That's how I'm interpreting it anyway. There a walk in the mountains I go on close to me ,to get there it is further than 5km travelled but it's less than 5km in distance.

    I wouldn't be fretting over a 100m either way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,801 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    Maybe people will eventually get tired of clowns breaking simple guidelines..

    A year on and I continue to see statements like this

    The people that continue to parrot this will never understand, and certainly never be successful in careers that involve people management

    If a company has policies that are failing, management review and change accordingly. The policy is considered wrong, not the staff.

    All people are never going to always do the right thing, people need to start to understand this. It’s why having such severe long term widespread mitigation doesn’t work.

    This was initially a blunt exercise to prevent the health service becoming overwhelmed, initially nothing got to do with x number of positive cases in the future causing a relaxation. It was only a tool to stop battlefield levels of triage being seen in hospitals.

    And of course, the disease is nowhere near the in-discriminatory killer we initially thought.

    Somewhere along the way, those in charge in Ireland lost the message, it’s now about unrealistic milestones of community cases numbers to change “the rules”.

    The HCW’s are vaccinated, 450,000 vulnerable are after getting the 1st dose and we continue to plan to suppress citizens like no other nation.

    Where did flatten the curve go?


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    Is it 5.1km either by walking or car ?

    It's likely less if you could go directly there or as the crow flies. That's how I'm interpreting it anyway. There a walk in the mountains I go on close to me ,to get there it is further than 5km travelled but it's less than 5km in distance.

    I wouldn't be fretting over a 100m either way.

    I wouldn’t waste my time responding to that post. This edge lord is over on the restrictions thread giggling like a 12 year old about “those posters on the main thread arguing about distance rules. It’s deliberate trolling.


  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    Is it 5.1km either by walking or car ?

    It's likely less if you could go directly there or as the crow flies.

    I fear that, in time to come, no matter where the crow flies there will be large screens erected across all motorways of the country - with Tony Holohan coming on-screen, announcing in a dreary, if semi-aggressive tone:

    "You are driving in the wrong direction. Return home immediately and remain within a 5-kilometer radius.

    I repeat: You are driving in the wrong direction. Return home at once and remain within a 5-kilometer radius.

    This virus loves driving.
    "


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    The excellent Static Jac on Reddit Ireland has looked at some numbers again
    So we're currently at 3,095 cases this week. We were at 3,160 cases this time last week.

    So as of this moment we seem to be doing better than last week, continuing the downward trend since the start of the lockdown.

    To go above last weeks total of 3,544, we'll need to see over 449 cases tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,631 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    jackboy wrote: »
    That is the governments fault. Some people have never followed the restrictions and some have been effectively exempt from the restrictions. That on top of the fact that some of the restrictions have no impact on the virus spread and other essential restrictions are not being applied, such as hotel quarantine for incoming travellers. All of this together indicates that our politicians are incompetent, but is anyone really surprised when we only elect them to fix potholes and get us medical cards.

    I didn't mention restrictions, I mentioned simple guidelines. Hope the guidelines are clear at the moment, wash your hands, keep the distance, wear a mask properly etc. You can hardly blame government if people don't follow that.

    Hit the switch to keep the lights on.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Locotastic wrote: »
    Sad thing is that some would prefer that, there will be people that struggle to accept societal norms again.


    This is silly and it's posted so much on here

    99% of Irish society just want things back to the way it was in 2019

    We're one of (if not the) most sociable nations on the planet. Of course we just want to get back to mingling with each other again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Why are the numbers not going down? honest answers only....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,631 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    A year on and I continue to see statements like this

    The people that continue to parrot this will never understand, and certainly never be successful in careers that involve people management

    If a company has policies that are failing, management review and change accordingly. The policy is considered wrong, not the staff.

    All people are never going to always do the right thing, people need to start to understand this. It’s why having such severe long term widespread mitigation doesn’t work.

    This was initially a blunt exercise to prevent the health service becoming overwhelmed, initially nothing got to do with x number of positive cases in the future causing a relaxation. It was only a tool to stop battlefield levels of triage being seen in hospitals.

    And of course, the disease is nowhere near the in-discriminatory killer we initially thought.

    Somewhere along the way, those in charge in Ireland lost the message, it’s now about unrealistic milestones of community cases numbers to change “the rules”.

    The HCW’s are vaccinated, 450,000 vulnerable are after getting the 1st dose and we continue to plan to suppress citizens like no other nation.

    Where did flatten the curve go?

    Sure mate, I'm parrot.

    But you are repeating the same nonsense, which is posted over multiple threads on boards over and over since the start of this shīt.

    Hit the switch to keep the lights on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,804 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    You asked a question, I gave you the answer.

    No point in these instances really .
    Some very polite people on this forum who answer questions then get a rude reply accusing them of setting the rules or some other inflammatory response.
    Those posters don't seem able to debate or understand another's point of view without fighting with them .

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Why are the numbers not going down? honest answers only....


    We all know why



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Hospital stats as of 8 am today
    • Hospitalised: 328 (-8)
    • ICU: 83 (-4)
    • New admissions past 24 hours: 27
    Would be great to get hospital cases down to circa 50 by June, like it was last Summer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    We all know why



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    Honestly at this stage I think we are pretty fuvcked.

    https://twitter.com/VirusesImmunity/status/1373296631358050306?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    This is silly and it's posted so much on here

    99% of Irish society just want things back to the way it was in 2019

    We're one of (if not the) most sociable nations on the planet. Of course we just want to get back to mingling with each other again
    Disagree, i have no idea nor have you what percentage of our people want to remain in lock down but i would wager it's above one percent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Hospital stats as of 8 am today
    • Hospitalised: 328 (-8)
    • ICU: 83 (-4)
    • New admissions past 24 hours: 27
    Would be great to get hospital cases down to circa 50 by June, like it was last Summer

    Won't matter either way, there will be still restrictions and a decreasing number of people following them.

    5, 50, 500 - doesn't seem to matter when there's no actual goal in sight. Even if there was a goal, like living with Covid (remember that plan!) they can change things at a moments notice.

    When do you think this will end? I think it will end when society accepts the risks and carries on regardless, we're closer to that than any vaccine 'saving us'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭jackboy


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    I didn't mention restrictions, I mentioned simple guidelines. Hope the guidelines are clear at the moment, wash your hands, keep the distance, wear a mask properly etc. You can hardly blame government if people don't follow that.

    That’s nice but a distraction really. It takes the right restrictions, enforced, to control the virus and decrease its spread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    Disagree, i have no idea nor have you what percentage of our people want to remain in lock down but i would wager it's above one percent.


    I don't think you've met enough Irish people then

    No sane society wants "permanent lockdown"

    Why would they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,282 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    First we were told to flatten the curve , then to protect the HSE staff , then the plan to live with Covid . Then wait for the vaccine , then wait till we are all vaccinated , then wait until the world is vaccinated .

    No clear message , no plan , no bloody clue how to manage this so is it any wonder people are doing what they deem safe and not even listening to NPHETs concerns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,801 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    Sure mate, I'm parrot.

    But you are repeating the same nonsense, which is posted over multiple threads on boards over and over since the start of this shīt.

    Apologies the parrot term was unnecessary.

    It frustrates me to see people blame their fellow citizens for this.

    It’s an implication that the deaths can be blamed on us, and it’s an implication used to mask failures to protect vulnerable by those in authority


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Genuine question: why do you think this means we're fūcked?

    Reading some of the replies to the tweet, it doesn't seem that this is bad, just interesting and makes researching sars-cov2 easier in mice (apparently. I know nothing about this, just reading the various replies)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,804 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    robbiezero wrote: »
    That 100m could be the difference between life and death for someones granny.

    No robbie ,the grannies are vaccinated ,you can go for a paddle with a clear conscience, when the tide is in :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I don't think you've met enough Irish people then

    No sane society wants "permanent lockdown"

    Why would they?

    Now your making wild assumptions.Lets agree to disagree on our societies sane percentage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    How people are quite happy and accepting of this perpetual bull**** is staggering.

    Nobody is. NO. BODY. Just because it is happening and people are complying by and large with the restrictions in no way says they are happy with it. They are sensible and put up with it as the best game in town, and arent out there with the loony conspiracy theorists thinking its all just a government experiment to see how compliant people will be to an unelected committee of technocrats. But it isnt bulldung, and nobody is happy with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    With the increasing number of protests against restrictions being seen right across the EU, how long will it be before businesses just decide to open back up and deal with consequences?

    I mean they can't shut everyone down if a large number were to decide to open all at once.

    As tough as it is dealing with all of this, those who are suffering financially must be incredibly frustrated with no end in sight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,282 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    No robbie ,the grannies are vaccinated ,you can go for a paddle with a clear conscience, when the tide is in :)

    I wish the criteria for a vaccine was to be a granny !! No such luck some of us are way too young to have it yet !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,804 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I'm not happy with but unfortunately we get what we as a population deserve.

    There is some things government have or haven't done that I don't agree with. I do think its essential that health care is prioritised. My parents are older vulnerable people and have had non urgent but routine and necessary testing and appointments cancelled.

    My father has had 2 appointments for a knee replacement cancelled because of hospitals being stressed. Then they won't reschedule them because he is vulnerable so they don't want to being him into hospital.

    My mother needs routine blood tests every 6 months. The hospital isnt bringing people in for blood tests and neither is her gp so she had to pay for someone to call to house to take blood despite being on the medical care.

    My uncle had covid and a heart attack in the last month. The hospital would have sent him to a step down facility for rehab but they are full with excovid patients so they sent him home instead.

    To me the resumption of full medical care is the most important thing. If they can't do that they can't justify any relaxations.

    Sorry to hear all your family have been through .
    You are so right . About normal hospital care . However in any of the hospitals near me including where I work regular blood tests are continuing .
    Any news of vaccinations for them yet ?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Genuine question: why do you think this means we're fūcked?

    Genuine answer. The variants that are emerging have been able to evade immunity. The fact they are more adept at bridging the species barrier would say to me that it has a lot more space to evolve and incubate.

    People saying that there is no evidence that AZ doesn't prevent (double negative) severe disease are right but the trial that showed it didn't work against S.A variant showed no difference in vaccinated vs unvaccinated and young people don't generally get hospitalised.

    Thanks for asking and hope that helps. Apologies for the downbeat forecast but what do I know. Feel free to disregard.

    P.S if we are this slow getting the first batch of vaccines out why do we think we'll be quicker with the 2.0 version.


  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Genuine question: why do you think this means we're fūcked?

    No, there is a limited range of mutations.

    We have the first vaccine; now they can be easily modifiable to account for existing and potential future variations.

    Existing vaccines are more than partially effective against the P1 and B135 variants, too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,804 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I wish the criteria for a vaccine was to be a granny !! No such luck some of us are way too young to have it yet !!

    Yes, I know , was just joking as I am sure the op was too with his post ;)

    Still a lot of vulnerable people waiting patiently and trying to mind themselves .

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