Golf Lockdown Discussion ** No discussion of breaking Restrictions **

Lip Out wrote: »

See my post above. Why are clubs and Golf Ireland remaining silent? Enough is enough. This could have huge consequences for clubs who are trying to get subs in to stay afloat. It would be the end of May before we sre back.

I genuinely believe Golf Ireland have already been given the nod by somebody and they're trying not to rock the boat so are keeping quiet. Once the numbers dont go haywire, Im optimistic.

Diamondhands wrote: »

Anyone know if driving ranges up the north are opening on 01/04?

I know of one that hasn’t closed!!!

Golfhead65 wrote: »

I just can't believe what I'm reading from you, I think you are a wind up merchant, Lockdowns, 5K limits have not worked like the saying about insanity "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Ffs have you not gone outside, the amount of gatherings in big groups outside is off the wall, don't get me wrong as I don't think there is anything wrong with it but" a gathering at a golf club is 4 people at most and don't BS about stopping for coffee etc it's happening on a much larger scale as it is

The reality is that nothing has worked so far as for the doing the "same thing over and over again analogy" so you want the powers to be to relax all virus spreading restrictions eeeeehhhh we have tried that but "doing the same thing over and over again"
However doing the same thing again ie reducing restrictions will be far more productive this time if managed correctly as the most likely cohorts of the population to catch a bad dose will have been protected through having had the JAB.

Golfhead65 wrote: »

For 99.9999% of people it's nothing more than a flu or cold, sure you got it and as you said yourself uncomfortable but not much to write home about, it's ironic that smoking is proven to be the biggest killer but sale of tobacco is not banned, Why?? 2 reasons 1. Government make money from it 2. If it was banned it would go underground and gov would lose tax money, ffs sake your daily commute from Kilcullen to Carlow is hardly frought with traffic jams in any ordinary day or year, try going around Dublin these days it's practically back to normal as people are genuinely pissed off. Open up and if you or anybody is of the opinion that it's still not safe to go out Stay in but like the people that complain about TV shows being inappropriate for viewing change the channel, font deny everyone coz of your insecurities

For 99.999999% of People its its nothing more than the flu. Where do you get your facts from Golfhead ffs. Yes the majority of people have a mild viral experience but 99.99 % of of the roughly 250,000 people who have contracted the disease in Ireland would according to your figs mean if my maths is correct would mean that only 25 people got a bad dose. Must tell Paul Reid to tell all those malingers in ICU "to get the fcuk outta my hospital".
Making an argument is what boards is all about but ffs do a little do a little bit of digging around and get your facts right. A recent USA TODAY article on some research on hospitalization rates per age group in America "Once infected with the new coronavirus, a 20-something has about a 1% chance of illness so severe it requires hospitalization, and that risk rises to more than 8% for people in their 50s and to nearly 19% for people over 80, a comprehensive new analysis finds" I agree with lots of posters who want to see outdoor sporting activities start back up but some of the guff and sense of entitlement seen on this forum is pathetic.

So 3 in every 100 people in the world have died throughout this!! Don't think do as that would make about 150000 dead in this period in Ireland alone, you can make a play on figures as the government and nphet are doing but the reality is not everyone catches a cold, flu, Pneumonia or this, so as my 83 Yr old father says, "Rather 1 more year of living than having this crap inflicted on us

Kingswood Rover wrote: »

For 99.999999% of People its its nothing more than the flu. Where do you get your facts from Golfhead ffs. Yes the majority of people have a mild viral experience but 99.99 % of of the roughly 250,000 people who have contracted the disease in Ireland would according to your figs mean if my maths is correct would mean that only 25 people got a bad dose. Must tell Paul Reid to tell all those malingers in ICU "to get the fcuk outta my hospital".
Making an argument is what boards is all about but ffs do a little do a little bit of digging around and get your facts right. A recent USA TODAY article on some research on hospitalization rates per age group in America "Once infected with the new coronavirus, a 20-something has about a 1% chance of illness so severe it requires hospitalization, and that risk rises to more than 8% for people in their 50s and to nearly 19% for people over 80, a comprehensive new analysis finds" I agree with lots of posters who want to see outdoor sporting activities start back up but some of the guff and sense of entitlement seen on this forum is pathetic.

Brainwashed from being in the job you're in and as for Reid and all those overpayed jumped up celebrities they are only polishing up their pension funds. Totalitarianism is what we have in this country now

Golfhead65 wrote: »

"Rather 1 more year of living than having this crap inflicted on us

If it was as simple as if you catch it and it just affects you to whatever extent I’d agree with your dads logic but unfortunately it’s not and the fact it gets past on exponentially and a lot of times asymptomatically brings us back to my point above about letting it rip thru society.

Kingswood Rover wrote: »

For 99.999999% of People its its nothing more than the flu. Where do you get your facts from Golfhead ffs. Yes the majority of people have a mild viral experience but 99.99 % of of the roughly 250,000 people who have contracted the disease in Ireland would according to your figs mean if my maths is correct would mean that only 25 people got a bad dose. Must tell Paul Reid to tell all those malingers in ICU "to get the fcuk outta my hospital".
Making an argument is what boards is all about but ffs do a little do a little bit of digging around and get your facts right. A recent USA TODAY article on some research on hospitalization rates per age group in America "Once infected with the new coronavirus, a 20-something has about a 1% chance of illness so severe it requires hospitalization, and that risk rises to more than 8% for people in their 50s and to nearly 19% for people over 80, a comprehensive new analysis finds" I agree with lots of posters who want to see outdoor sporting activities start back up but some of the guff and sense of entitlement seen on this forum is pathetic.

Incorrect....maybe 1% of people with a positive test ends up in hospital (and that is clearly incorrect by the way). Even if I give you that....many young people have it and never get tested because they have no symptoms.

The numbers and what the media report are wildly different. I have analysed the numbers that are supplied and nearly everything I have read in media is purposefully misinterpretting the numbers to scaremonger

I will probably get banned for saying what you are saying is wrong!

bustercherry wrote: »

How about you explain it? Stay off the cans maybe

Haha I am 10 times more qualified that NPHET to explain it....


e = 2.71828

Eulers number.....it is implicitly says that R = 2.71828

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gypsy79 wrote: »

Please state your qualifications to question me?

I have circa 20 years building models as an actuary based on decrements such as this.

I do love these sad misery guts that love spend time been locked up calling for more locking up

If you read this thread you’ll see I’m far from one who wants us locked up.


For someone putting themselves forward as some sort of maths wizard who knows more than the professors on nphet it’s strange that you ask how covid grows exponentially.

If 1 person gets it and lives in a house with 3 others and passes it to them. Then those 3 go to work, pub, college or wherever and said 3 people pass it to 3 more each. Those 3 people then go home to their families and the growth continues.
The initial 1 person is responsible for an exponentially growing number of cases.
But hey.... that’s ok because that first person would prefer to live one more year rather than try reduce all that growth and protect the healthcare system and unnecessary death from non covid problems.

Again I reiterate the time for full lockdown has passed with vaccines now in the older community. A gradual reopening should be happening in April imo.

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

No 3 % of anyone who got covid in the world in a closed case are now dead.

This is obviously improving now (was about 4%) with vaccine and age profile and treatment.

And . I would warn the open everything up crowd. To look up italy and France. They are back to high figures , high deaths and lockdown. The variants are simply very different.

We probably need to hold the guns fot 2 or 3 more months (imo) till vax are more established. Probably won't hold out as public opinion and fatigue.

But a full opening up now will be very similar or worse than the Christmas outcome.

I know people don't want to hear this . But we probably would be better off holding exactly what we are doing now till June.

Again . Just look at Italian and French data.

About 4 weeks ago footage of italians in restaurants and defying lockdown. . Back in a wave as bad as 2020 now.

Very reasoned and factual unlike some of the bile from the ones who think it’s just a matter of opening everything now.
I’d agree with you for the vast majority here apart from I would 100% be allowing kids to play sports seen as though they are all in school together and let’s be honest playing on the streets together.

I’m hoping golf also gets the green light for an early restriction lift.


I find it funny these lads who say nphet don’t have a clue seen as though the one time government went against their advise the result was the current 4 month full lockdown after the Xmas fiasco.

Then you have a lad on the boards golf forum questioning how this virus grows exponentially who claims to know 10 times more than the professors, scientists and public health experts who make up nphet because he did actuary...
I think I’m going to put his posts down to late Saturday night cocktails.

Strange times.

VirgilVD wrote: »

I totally get that COVID grows exponentially once it has the ability to do that, but we can’t say if we open back up now we will be back we’re we were at Christmas as we are in a much better position currently than we were at Xmas in terms of vaccines and also there was roughly 90k of cases in January so these cases are now immune for a minimum of 6 months. Given that our vaccines are in around 500k and another nearly 100k who contracted the virus and now immune for a period of time what would the harm be in loosening restrictions of some sort especially golf. Has there been an in depth review of how many cases were linked to golf the last time it opened?

I think we are on the same page. I’m hoping for a gradual reopening from Easter while monitoring what happens. I’m not calling for an open the gates policy. That’s just silly stuff.