Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

Allinall · 19-03-2021 09:56PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Whether people like it or not, whether people want to admit it or not, Tony Holohan comes across as a narcisstic egotist!
He picks his media appearances to further his image and avoids the hard questions.

Facts!

If this ever ****ing ends, watch his next move...

What difference does it make how he “comes across”?

Are people that shallow that the let personalities dictate how they feel about the situation we’re in?

retro:electro · 19-03-2021 10:08PM

Micheál is some gobshlte

FintanMcluskey · 19-03-2021 10:25PM

retro:electro wrote: »

Micheál is some gobshlte

A cute hoor.

Leave Glynn to answer questions like a badger in headlights, it’s going to get heavy from here on.

NPHET will rue the day they ever agreed to the daily briefings, Martin will hide behind them forever more.

It’s likely to late now for the economy and Martin realises that, his answers are just vague nothingness

RobitTV · 19-03-2021 10:26PM

https://twitter.com/JeremyDixonDJ/status/1372914119951671297

MOR316 · 19-03-2021 10:27PM

Allinall wrote: »

What difference does it make how he “comes across”?

Are people that shallow that the let personalities dictate how they feel about the situation we’re in?

I never once said it dictates how I/we feel about the situation we're in.
I was just making the point that his ego loves the limelight and media appearances and that will probably continue after this is over...

Very quick and snappy to defend Tony Holohan from something I never said...
Interesting...

Allinall · 19-03-2021 10:29PM

MOR316 wrote: »

I never once said it dictates how I/we feel about the situation we're in.
I was just making the point that his ego loves the limelight and media appearances and that will probably continue after this is over...

Very quick and snappy to defend Tony Holohan from something I never said...
Interesting...

I never once defended Tony Holohan.

MOR316 · 19-03-2021 10:32PM

Allinall wrote: »

I never once defended Tony Holohan.

You did...

I never once mentioned the situation we're in...

If you want, I've a whole list of things I can nail him with? I've done it before with people I'm friends with in the health service...Some they agree with, some they think I'm talking ****e about

But, it's been done to death on these threads, I'd feel we're going around in circles.
Can PM though if you'd like?*

*Meant in a friendly way btw

19-03-2021 10:44PM

Allinall wrote: »

What difference does it make how he “comes across”?

Are people that shallow that the let personalities dictate how they feel about the situation we’re in?

Hello? Have you ever met actual humans? Yes, people care a lot about the personalities of their leaders. Amazing that you're here carrying on like it's a new ****ing concept. Christ.

Coillte_Bhoy · 19-03-2021 10:50PM

Monster249 wrote: »

But they are? They're the ones communicating with the public and any advice is blindly followed by the leaders of the nation. You're an idiot if you can't see that and I literally have nothing else to say to you.

Fine, i dont particularly wnat to engage with some who trivialises and downplays the horrors of the SS.

Monster249 · 19-03-2021 10:52PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Fine, i dont particularly wnat to engage with some who trivialises and downplays the horrors of the SS.

Once again, I haven't downplayed anything. At this point you have to be winding me up? No one can lack this much comprehension. I identified one similarity.

19-03-2021 10:56PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Fine, i dont particularly wnat to engage with some who trivialises and downplays the horrors of the SS.

For god's sakes, grow up. It was blatantly obvious that that poster was merely saying that he can see where the comparison came from even if it was overblown and unsuited to the current situation.

"Just following orders" has been used throughout history to excuse atrocities. Some people will consider a person being violently restrained and potentially jailed for leaving their house without an excuse that their government finds adequate to be a ways along the road to tyranny.

And I'd be inclined to agree, no matter how many people feign outrage on the internet.

normanoffside · 19-03-2021 10:57PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

A cute hoor.

Leave Glynn to answer questions like a badger in headlights, it’s going to get heavy from here on.

NPHET will rue the day they ever agreed to the daily briefings, Martin will hide behind them forever more.

It’s likely to late now for the economy and Martin realises that, his answers are just vague nothingness

Myself and several others in this thread have been saying for at least the last 9 months that NPHET should not be doing briefings to the public/press and should not have public profiles.

I see people in the main thread and real world are finally coming around to this.

This whole thing is crazy, Everyone who was labelled 'conspiracy theorist' at the start is being proven correct with time.

Coillte_Bhoy · 19-03-2021 10:59PM

Monster249 wrote: »

Once again, I haven't downplayed anything. At this point you have to be winding me up? No one can lack this much comprehension. I identified one similarity.

We will agree to differ on that so. Let's just ignore each other eh? Why not sticky to your earlier post of not saying anything else to me and we will be grand .

Coillte_Bhoy · 19-03-2021 11:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

For god's sakes, grow up. It was blatantly obvious that that poster was merely saying that he can see where the comparison came from even if it was overblown and unsuited to the current situation.

"Just following orders" has been used throughout history to excuse atrocities. Some people will consider a person being violently restrained and potentially jailed for leaving their house without an excuse that their government finds adequate to be a ways along the road to tyranny.

And I'd be inclined to agree, no matter how many people feign outrage on the internet.

Oh for crying out loud :pac:

And calling someone out for trivialising the SS is not something i will back down on.

normanoffside · 19-03-2021 11:03PM

By the way, Where is Stephen Donnelly?

Monster249 · 19-03-2021 11:05PM

normanoffside wrote: »

By the way, Where is Stephen Donnelly?

Probably off holding firm somewhere.

FintanMcluskey · 19-03-2021 11:06PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Myself and several others in this thread have been saying for at least the last 9 months that NPHET should not be doing briefings to the public/press and should not have public profiles.

I see people in the main thread and real world are finally coming around to this.

This whole thing is crazy, Everyone who was labelled 'conspiracy theorist' at the start is being proven correct with time.

NPHET were very foolish to become a fall guy.

They should have insulated themselves like Leo and MM did

Oh and I was one of the others

normanoffside · 19-03-2021 11:08PM

By the time the vaccine is rolled out the Vulnerable cohort who received it first will already be needing boosters and will be susceptible again.
The whole charade will continue on; we'll have to lockdown to protect the vulnerable until they are vaccinated.

FintanMcluskey · 19-03-2021 11:10PM

normanoffside wrote: »

By the time the vaccine is rolled out the Vulnerable cohort who received it first will already be needing boosters and will be susceptible again.
The whole charade will continue on; we'll have to lockdown to protect the vulnerable until they are vaccinated.

A guy at work in his 20s said he’s due March 2022 for vaccination

Hopefully we will have increased to 6km by then

Coillte_Bhoy · 19-03-2021 11:13PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

A guy at work in his 20s said he’s due March 2022 for vaccination

Hopefully we will have increased to 6km by then

So a workmate tells you blatant lies and bs and you think its worthy of posting here?

19-03-2021 11:14PM

Monster249 wrote: »

Probably off holding firm somewhere.

He'd want to let go before gangrene sets in. Himself and Harris have been media shy these past few months, they're waiting for MM to fall on the sword and swoop in like vultures. Meanwhile, the public are being deliberately kept in the dark over potential easing of restrictions. We need leaders not slippery chancers, government presiding over a shambolic fiasco.

bb1234567 · 19-03-2021 11:14PM

https://twitter.com/RealMessageEire/status/1372918411068604420

Look at the comments..if any kind of concern or speaking out against plans for level 5 until almost mid summer are still met with such resistance and animosity from so many in the population, where does that leave us. These people really genuinely believe that high case numbers are 1) the sole result of 'rule breakers' and 2) if these rebels would just shut up and hunker down like the rest of the country and let us get down to near zero cases that this would have any effect whatsoever on NPHET's plans to keep us in level 5 for months on end.

Even if we were registering 10 cases daily NPHET would still maintain Level 5 until June just in case. How will this ever end, I despair for the country, it's like watching a car crash in slow motion. What will be left be in June, if that is even the end of this, I don't want to emigrate, I love this country but I can't see a bright future here as things now stand

Monster249 · 19-03-2021 11:15PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

So a workmate tells you blatant lies and bs and you think its worthy of posting here?

It's more worthy than your last 5+ posts? Do you just scan these forums to try and antagonize people who are actually interested in progressive discourse?

Monster249 · 19-03-2021 11:16PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RealMessageEire/status/1372918411068604420

Look at the comments..if any kind of concern or speaking out against plans for level 5 until almost mid summer are still met with such resistance and animosity from so many in the population, where does that leave us. These people really genuinely believe that high case numbers are 1) the sole result of 'rule breakers' and 2) if these rebels would just shut up and hunker down like the rest of the country and let us get down to near zero cases that this would have any effect whatsoever on NPHET's plans to keep us in level 5 for months on end.

Even if we were registering 10 cases daily NPHET would still maintain Level 5 until June just in case. How will this ever end, I despair for the country, it's like watching a car crash in slow motion. What will be left be in June, if that is even the end of this, I don't want to emigrate, I love this country but I can't see a bright future here as things now stand

The herd mentality is shocking alright, you'd feel like a character in a Playstation game surrounded by NPCs who are programmed to act a certain way.

normanoffside · 19-03-2021 11:17PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

NPHET were very foolish to become a fall guy.

They should have insulated themselves like Leo and MM did

Oh and I was one of the others

I'm afraid Tony H made the bed for NPHET in October when he demanded immediate level 5 out of the blue.
Varadkar went against him in and publicly criticised him but the press dug in and sided with NPHET.
The press took public and political opinion with them.
Tony won out and with NPHET won that battle and have been holding ground ever since.

I do feel sorry for Glynn as I don't think he sees himself a a political being like his boss but he is paying the price for all the above now.

AngeloArgue · 19-03-2021 11:17PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RealMessageEire/status/1372918411068604420

Look at the comments..if any kind of concern or speaking out against plans for level 5 until almost mid summer are still met with such resistance and animosity from so many in the population, where does that leave us. These people really genuinely believe that high case numbers are 1) the sole result of 'rule breakers' and 2) if these rebels would just shut up and hunker down like the rest of the country and let us get down to near zero cases that this would have any effect whatsoever on NPHET's plans to keep us in level 5 for months on end.

Even if we were registering 10 cases daily NPHET would still maintain Level 5 until June just in case. How will this ever end, I despair for the country, it's like watching a car crash in slow motion. What will be left be in June, if that is even the end of this, I don't want to emigrate, I love this country but I can't see a bright future here as things now stand

Do Lockdowns work?

Bearing in mind in early January we had one of the highest level of infection in the world

FintanMcluskey · 19-03-2021 11:19PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RealMessageEire/status/1372918411068604420

Look at the comments..if any kind of concern or speaking out against plans for level 5 until almost mid summer are still met with such resistance and animosity from so many in the population, where does that leave us. These people really genuinely believe that high case numbers are 1) the sole result of 'rule breakers' and 2) if these rebels would just shut up and hunker down like the rest of the country and let us get down to near zero cases that this would have any effect whatsoever on NPHET's plans to keep us in level 5 for months on end.

Even if we were registering 10 cases daily NPHET would still maintain Level 5 until June just in case. How will this ever end, I despair for the country, it's like watching a car crash in slow motion. What will be left be in June, if that is even the end of this, I don't want to emigrate, I love this country but I can't see a bright future here as things now stand

The comments are further evidence that NPHET have fallen into the trap laid out for them.

They could have been just as conservative while reporting directly to government with advice, but they have now become public enemy number 1.

They really need to wake up and smell the roses and let the elected leaders take the hit

Monster249 · 19-03-2021 11:19PM

AngeloArgue wrote: »

Do Lockdowns work?

Bearing in mind in early January we had one of the highest level of infection in the world

Definitely, but you need public buy-in. That begins to wain (it has done & will continue to do so) when you implement them too frequently and for too long.

Ha Long Bay · 19-03-2021 11:20PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

A guy at work in his 20s said he’s due March 2022 for vaccination

Hopefully we will have increased to 6km by then

Do you believe him?

FintanMcluskey · 19-03-2021 11:21PM

AngeloArgue wrote: »

Do Lockdowns work?

Bearing in mind in early January we had one of the highest level of infection in the world

Bearing in mind for the 9 months previous Ireland had the longest lockdown in Europe

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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