Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

normanoffside · 19-03-2021 06:58PM

Numbers Nolan wants us all to do a wee bit more.
What planet is he on?

https://twitter.com/President_MU/status/1372935041714683914

AlekSmart · 19-03-2021 07:00PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Dr Ronan Glynn says that advice will be issued in the coming fortnight for people who have received their Covid vaccine:

'It will be conservative as vaccines aren't 100% protective on an individual level'

Oh
my
fuc****
god
:P

They are playing with us now.

Golly :eek:

I wonder if I write to Doktor Glynn asking if he will take me off his mailing list,due to my own Immune System having been 100% effective over the past 12 months,will he have me arrested for sedition or something ?

His line appears to be "Have my Vaccine,or you will DIE.....(Horribly)" ...

At this point,the thread topic merits a collective move to CT,as it's more reflective of the reality on the streets...;)

19-03-2021 07:02PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Numbers Nolan wants us all to do a wee bit more.
What planet is he on?

https://twitter.com/President_MU/status/1372935041714683914

Not a bother Prof, you take a symbolic cut to your salary in solidarity with the half million rest of us who involuntarily lost our jobs and we're on the same page. Otherwise shove your shallow "we can all do a lickle bit more" drivel where the moon don't shine.

Hector Savage · 19-03-2021 07:05PM

Absolute sense.

AdrianBalboa · 19-03-2021 07:08PM

Imagine asking the leader of IEMAG to take a pay cut during the pandemic. The people involved in NPHET are working themselves to the bone, around the clock. Of course they should be remunerated.

FintanMcluskey · 19-03-2021 07:13PM

Horrific stuff on Newstalk with Paul Treyvaud

He’s in the hospitality industry and said 80% of Irish indigenous businesses are definitely gone by July 1st.

Business owners have used all cash in hand and personal savings.

Even if the reopen now they likely won’t survive

Why make them invest in social distancing measures only to shut them down indefinitely

Staff shortages also an issue

Why is the county by county localised plan out the window?

fin12 · 19-03-2021 07:14PM

Was he down in Cork again today, the prick, swanning all over the place. His physical presence isn’t needed anywhere. , stay in ur 5k prick...

themacattack. · 19-03-2021 07:14PM

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

Imagine asking the leader of IEMAG to take a pay cut during the pandemic. The people involved in NPHET are working themselves to the bone, around the clock. Of course they should be remunerated.

maybe they should take a holiday so

AdrianBalboa · 19-03-2021 07:16PM

themacattack. wrote: »

maybe they should take a holiday so

When it’s time they’ll be hard-earned.

Boggles · 19-03-2021 07:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If the analysis was done then it should be made public, given the severity of the lockdowns and the unprecedented restrictions on liberty. The government serves the people.

I'd nearly say you could probably guess it.

Deleted User wrote: »

Alcohol consumption is down because all of the on-trade sales have effectively halted. Off-trade alcohol consumption has increased a lot.

Consumption is down across the board.

This isn't a very hard concept get your head around to be honest.

I'll leave it to Patricia to explain it to you.

Patricia Callan, Director of Drinks Ireland said "there is a growing and misleading narrative that alcohol consumption increased last year during lockdown."

She said these Revenue figures show that "this is simply not true".

"While off-trade sales predictably increased when the on-trade was closed, this was not enough to offset the overall fall in alcohol consumption across the board," Ms Callan added.

ceadaoin. · 19-03-2021 07:16PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Absolute sense.

Good clip. Is he really the first person they have had on questioning things? After a year almost?

I always wanted to move back to Ireland eventually. Now I feel like there won't be anything worth going back to for a long time (except my family) and my child would be better off staying here in the long run. I'm old enough to remember what it was like in the 80s and 90s and that's what I'm picturing. Huge unemployment and more poverty than has been seen in recent years anyway.

Boggles · 19-03-2021 07:18PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Horrific stuff on Newstalk with Paul Treyvaud

He’s in the hospitality industry and said 80% of Irish indigenous businesses are definitely gone by July 1st.

Business owners have used all cash in hand and personal savings.

Even if the reopen now they likely won’t survive

Why make them invest in social distancing measures only to shut them down indefinitely

Staff shortages also an issue

Why is the county by county localised plan out the window?

Paul is a chef and a complete scare mongering one too it appears.

:rolleyes:

Captain_Crash · 19-03-2021 07:20PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Good clip. Is he really the first person they have had on questioning things? After a year almost?

It was funny the part where she said “well we have you on now questioning it”... yeah 12 months in Claire, you just proved his point haha!

screamer · 19-03-2021 07:20PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Horrific stuff on Newstalk with Paul Treyvaud

He’s in the hospitality industry and said 80% of Irish indigenous businesses are definitely gone by July 1st.

Business owners have used all cash in hand and personal savings.

Even if the reopen now they likely won’t survive

Why make them invest in social distancing measures only to shut them down indefinitely

Staff shortages also an issue

Why is the county by county localised plan out the window?

Heard that too, of course there are thousands of businesses out there that will never re-open. I hope the government have the cop on to re-open the passport office so that soon as we're vaccinated, we can all rely on the age old pressure valve of emigration.

As for the county by county localised plan, well, I've a couple of thoughts, and one is that it's just easier to keep everything locked down, and I imagine there'd be anarchy if some counties are opened up and others are not.

They better do something and quick, or there'll be no coming back from this.

ceadaoin. · 19-03-2021 07:21PM

Boggles wrote: »

I'd nearly say you could probably guess it.

Consumption is down across the board.

This isn't a very hard concept get your head around to be honest.

I'll leave it to Patricia to explain it to you.

Ireland must be bucking the trend then given that alcohol related deaths in England and wales were at record levels last year ,and hospital admissions for alcohol related illnesses.

Boggles · 19-03-2021 07:24PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Ireland must be bucking the trend then given that alcohol related deaths in England and wales were at record levels last year ,and hospital admissions for alcohol related illnesses.

There is no trend, the figures are from Revenue backed up by people in the industry.

If you have any information that refutes it by all means fire it up.

* England, Wales are not Ireland.

FintanMcluskey · 19-03-2021 07:27PM

Boggles wrote: »

Paul is a chef and a complete scare mongering one too it appears.

:rolleyes:

You will shortly realise it’s too late Boggles.

The country is in ruins, it’s currently masked behind money that’s not ours being borrowed at a rate never seen before

When the exchequer can’t fund the health service and pay wages of public servants in a few months I imagine a few of ye will wonder how when our imaginary GDP is so strong.

Boggles · 19-03-2021 07:31PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

You will shortly realise it’s too late Boggles.

What, this nugget?

80% of Irish indigenous businesses are definitely gone by July 1st.

Paul is talking out of his hole, if that is indeed what he said.

The doom and scare mongering is gone absolutely ridiculous.

Monster249 · 19-03-2021 07:33PM

Boggles wrote: »

What, this nugget?

Paul is talking out of his hole, if that is indeed what he said.

The doom and scare mongering is gone absolutely ridiculous.

The irony in some of the ****e you post is unreal. You parrott about scaremongering while downplaying the negative effects of lockdowns whilst simultaneously supporting the king's of scaremongering and continuous lockdowns.

hynesie08 · 19-03-2021 07:35PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Horrific stuff on Newstalk with Paul Treyvaud

He’s in the hospitality industry and said 80% of Irish indigenous businesses are definitely gone by July 1st.

Business owners have used all cash in hand and personal savings.

Even if the reopen now they likely won’t survive

Why make them invest in social distancing measures only to shut them down indefinitely

Staff shortages also an issue

Why is the county by county localised plan out the window?

For someone so desperate to save his business, why is he waiting for the last possible day to reopen.....

the kelt · 19-03-2021 07:40PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Ireland must be bucking the trend then given that alcohol related deaths in England and wales were at record levels last year ,and hospital admissions for alcohol related illnesses.

Well we do have that virus variant with the built in gps tracking that mean it only activates outside of 5k but is smart enough to realise when it’s in a school setting and not to spread so ye know we could very well be bucking the trend!:D

Boggles · 19-03-2021 07:46PM

Monster249 wrote: »

The irony in some of the ****e you post is unreal. You parrott about scaremongering while downplaying the negative effects of lockdowns whilst simultaneously supporting the king's of scaremongering and continuous lockdowns.

I don't think you understand the concept of Irony.

But if you think Paul is correct, we won't have to wait long to find out.

What actual tangible negative effects of lock-downs have I downplayed?

I mean real ones, not the makey uppy ones that appear here daily to drive fear and scaremonger?

Here is an example of a makey uppy one

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

When the exchequer can’t fund the health service and pay wages of public servants in a few months I imagine a few of ye will wonder how when our imaginary GDP is so strong.

Health service gone and mass unemployment of the public sector in June.

Monster249 · 19-03-2021 07:50PM

Boggles wrote: »

I don't think you understand the concept of Irony.

But if you think Paul is correct, we won't have to wait long to find out.

What actual tangible negative effects of lock-downs have I downplayed?

I mean real ones, not the makey uppy ones that appear here daily to drive fear and scaremonger?

The irony is you claiming people are scaremongering yet support NPHET who have done nothing but scaremonger since last March, does that fit your description of irony?

I have no interest in discussing anything with you, if I thought you had the critical thinking ability and rational thought process to see opposing viewpoints I would but I don't.

For what it's worth, I think NPHET are doing exactly what they're supposed to, it's the government ignoring all other facets of the counties ongoing development that I have an issue with.

Monster249 · 19-03-2021 07:51PM

Boggles wrote: »

I don't think you understand the concept of Irony.

But if you think Paul is correct, we won't have to wait long to find out.

What actual tangible negative effects of lock-downs have I downplayed?

I mean real ones, not the makey uppy ones that appear here daily to drive fear and scaremonger?

Here is an example of a makey uppy one

Health service gone and mass unemployment of the public sector in June.

We agree on that one, that is clearly untrue ☺️

Silentcorner · 19-03-2021 07:51PM

People need to start realizing that the last day of the last lockdown is not the end...it is the half way point, over 800,000 now on HSE waiting lists, Unemployment will hit 20% probably higher, housing crisis has been worsened, the local SME industry, the industry that employs people in ever village, town and city is going to be decimated...when we look back at the stats, cases, death rate it will appear to be the biggest miscalculation in our nations history, we will lose another generation to emigration...it is money that the state is borrowing on our behalf, which has to come to an end soon, that is stopping the mass protests, civil disobedience....

Martin doesn't want to speculate what will happen next month? That is simply not good enough....We are being run by the members of one of the most dysfunctional health system in Europe...who are ignoring the WHO, Science and all the other countries that have more relaxed restrictions than we do, in countries with much bigger cities and older populations.

This has been a monumental disaster...all the cheer leading media channels in the State won't protect them from what is coming next!

CalamariFritti · 19-03-2021 07:51PM

Boggles wrote: »

What, this nugget?

Paul is talking out of his hole, if that is indeed what he said.

The doom and scare mongering is gone absolutely ridiculous.

I dont know Boggles. Restaurant business is a difficult business at the best of times.. I wouldnt be surprised if 80% of them folded or in that region. Doesnt sound implausible.

Monster249 · 19-03-2021 07:52PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Yeah, one prominent idiot on here was comparing the Gardai to the SS

I'm not agreeing with the comparison but are you not able to see some similarities? Albeit nowhere near as sinister and not in the same moral arena.

Boggles · 19-03-2021 07:54PM

Monster249 wrote: »

The irony is you claiming people are scaremongering yet support NPHET who have done nothing but scaremonger since last March, does that fit your description of irony?

I have no interest in discussing anything with you, if I thought you had the critical thinking ability and rational thought process to see opposing viewpoints I would but I don't.

For what it's worth, I think NPHET are doing exactly what they're supposed to, it's the government ignoring all other facets of the counties ongoing development that I have an issue with.

Monster249 wrote: »

I have no interest in discussing anything with you, if I thought you had the critical thinking ability and rational thought process to see opposing viewpoints I would but I don't.

Indeed.

Monster249 · 19-03-2021 07:55PM

Boggles wrote: »

Indeed.

Yes? NPHET's job is to be as cautious as possible and if they're given a voice, which they are, of course they're going to be as cautious as possible, overly so.

It's the government who are supposed to balance that with positivity and every other arm of the country which they have monumentally failed to do.

Boggles · 19-03-2021 07:56PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

I dont know Boggles. Restaurant business is a difficult business at the best of times.. I wouldnt be surprised if 80% of them folded or in that region. Doesnt sound implausible.

Paul didn't claim 80% of restaurants.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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