Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

gozunda · 18-03-2021 11:31PM

d161 wrote: »

If you're worried stay in. I'll drop groceries to your door step every day. I'll even pay for them.
Don't make me or my kids stay in because you're nervous.

Nope. My own concerns are not for myself but are broadly inline with the restrictions which aim to stop case numbers getting out of control.

I'm sorry you have yet to understand that basic idea.

d161 · 18-03-2021 11:35PM

gozunda wrote: »

And where my friend is your bizarre twist stated anywhere in my comment?

But more importantly those old and medically vulnerable are the grandparents and in some cases the parents, siblings and even some of those kids, teenagers and young adults themselves.

But yeah fcuk them all right?

I'm not your friend. You make me sick with your attitude.
You lived and enjoyed your life. You're older now and you want to restrict my kids for a disease that won't hurt them but they will pay for. My 12 year is suffering badly but you don't care about that.
I'm older and my mother is older.
Both of us would give our lives for my kids but you want to sacrifice kids for your life

Disgusting!

d161 · 18-03-2021 11:38PM

d161 wrote: »

I'm not your friend. You make me sick with your attitude.
You lived and enjoyed your life. You're older now and you want to restrict my kids for a disease that won't hurt them but they will pay for. My 12 year is suffering badly but you don't care about that.
I'm older and my mother is older.
Both of us would give our lives for my kids but you want to sacrifice kids for your life

Disgusting!

And my favourite, you look for outlyers to convince parents that healthy kids are at risk.
Even try to scare pregnant women.

normanoffside · 18-03-2021 11:39PM

This infographic rings a few bells

RGS · 18-03-2021 11:42PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Did I hear the deputy CMO say they want people to work from home for the next three to four months ? Do they understand how that’s going to effect people because they won’t be opening up other places if they are encouraging people to work from home.

And that from a man who spends his day in his office.

I also love how they parade various different people out for their briefings and then ask people to limit their contacts.

Leading by example would be a good idea.

Necro · 18-03-2021 11:43PM

Mod:

gozunda and d161, put each other on ignore if you can't post in a civil manner towards each other

d161 · 18-03-2021 11:45PM

gozunda wrote: »

Nope. My own concerns are not for myself but are broadly inline with the restrictions which aim to stop case numbers getting out of control.

I'm sorry you have yet to understand that basic idea.

I don't believe you.
Either you're not affected financially, /better finacially or you're medically worried.
My bet is you're on pension and worried about your own health.
It's a disease with a low fatality rate. The only valid concern is that the hospitals being overrun

Neagra · 18-03-2021 11:47PM

the lockdowns do not affect everyone the same
all those paid by the public purse have continued to be paid through all the lockdowns.
that includes dole heads, public sector employees, TDs, charity workers, RTE and other quango moochers, etc etc.

just wait until the PUP is replaced by the dole and wage subsidy gives way to pay cuts and job losses.
many people working in the private sector would want to wise up,
for the sake of your children and for yourself get ****1ng mad

Chivito550 · 18-03-2021 11:49PM

ingo1984 wrote: »

There is absolutely nothing preventing you from travelling. They already stopped the 2k fine nonsense back in February once the EU commission told them it was against free momement principals of the EU.

Have you a link to this?

18-03-2021 11:49PM

d161 wrote: »

My attitude.
The kids are the future. I'll take my chances.
My 80 year old mother, the same.

What about the children getting bone marrow treatment for ALL? Should they take their chances?

JRant · 18-03-2021 11:49PM

ingo1984 wrote: »

There is absolutely nothing preventing you from travelling. They already stopped the 2k fine nonsense back in February once the EU commission told them it was against free momement principals of the EU.

Did they? Last I seen was MM blathering on about it being increased from 500 to 2k

gozunda · 18-03-2021 11:52PM

ingo1984 wrote: »

There is absolutely nothing preventing you from travelling. They already stopped the 2k fine nonsense back in February once the EU commission told them it was against free momement principals of the EU.

Do you have a source for that?

Richard Hillman · 18-03-2021 11:52PM

I think we've gathered by now that NPHET do not give a **** about people's mental well being.

NPHET are the type of folk that have been trying to grind us down for the last few years.

Guilt free beers/bottle of wine at the end of the week? No. Binge drinking bad. Minimum pricing of alcohol.

On the rag and fancy are large dairy milk? No, sugar tax for you fattys.

Recently dumped and fancy a bender? No. Pubs will close early tonight, don't even think about an off licence.

A cigarette after long day of work? No. More tax.€1 a cigarette.

18-03-2021 11:55PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I think we've gathered by now that NPHET do not give a **** about people's mental well being.

NPHET are the type of folk that have been trying to grind us down for the last few years.

Guilt free beers/bottle of wine at the end of the week? No. Binge drinking bad. Minimum pricing of alcohol.

On the rag and fancy are large dairy milk? No, sugar tax for you fattys.

Recently dumped and fancy a bender? No. Pubs will close early tonight, don't even think about an off licence.

A cigarette after long day of work? No. More tax.€1 a cigarette.

Just as a point, cigarettes and alcohol are actually bad for people with mental health issues. It will worsen the symptoms. If you are struggling at this time, Maybe best to refrain and indulge in some exercise.

d161 · 18-03-2021 11:56PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What about the children getting bone marrow treatment for ALL? Should they take their chances?

I'm genuinely sorry if your child needs a bone marrow transplant.
Explain your post. Are you saying that because some kids need a bone marrow transplant then all kids should stay in?

thebaz · 18-03-2021 11:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What about the children getting bone marrow treatment for ALL? Should they take their chances?

obvioulsly , children (or adults) , who are at risk for what ever reason , should take extra precautions, that would be medically advised .

But ther is a whole generation of healthy teenagers who have been severly harmed, by a year of lockdown.
For instance I have a friend whose once healthy grandson, has not left the house for a year , for fear of catching virus, and passing it on , now his whole family is worried about this once healthy 16 year old, and his now hermit online life. I know he is not the only one.

gozunda · 18-03-2021 11:58PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What about the children getting bone marrow treatment for ALL? Should they take their chances?

That's the thing that seems to be constantly ignored. The virus most certainly affects those who are medically vulnerable of all ages.

What do you say to the worried sick child who I know - whose medically vulnerable parent is at serious risk because they're are some simply too selfish to help prevent the spread of the disease or think its all a big conspiracy?

d161 · 18-03-2021 11:59PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just as a point, cigarettes and alcohol are actually bad for people with mental health issues. It will worsen the symptoms. If you are struggling at this time, Maybe best to refrain and indulge in some exercise.

Agree with all but the cigarette bit. Don't think they are bad for your mental health? Not great for your lungs!

Hooked · 19-03-2021 12:04AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

My wife's mother in New York had bone marrow treatment for AML over the summer. I'm not an expert, but from what I understand AML is generally the more serious disease and she was in real danger.

She was treated in one of the top cancer centres in the US.Her doctor has been fine with people visiting her as long as they keep their distance and wear masks since last winter - long before vaccines were widely available there.

We are being ridiculously over cautious with covid in this country.

That last line.

Nail. On. The. Head!

gozunda · 19-03-2021 12:04AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I think we've gathered by now that NPHET do not give a **** about people's mental well being.
NPHET are the type of folk that have been trying to grind us down for the last few years.
Guilt free beers/bottle of wine at the end of the week? No. Binge drinking bad. Minimum pricing of alcohol. On the rag and fancy are large dairy milk? No, sugar tax for you fattys.
Recently dumped and fancy a bender? No. Pubs will close early tonight, don't even think about an off licence. A cigarette after long day of work? No. More tax.€1 a cigarette.

What?

OK I think history is deliberately being rewritten here. NPHET were only set up in 2020 with the remit of helping to co-ordinate the national response to the pandemic.

The sugar tax, tax on cigarettes or minimun price of alcohol predates the pandemic etc has fek all to do with them

d161 · 19-03-2021 12:10AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

My wife's mother in New York had bone marrow treatment for AML over the summer. I'm not an expert, but from what I understand AML is generally the more serious disease and she was in real danger.

She was treated in one of the top cancer centres in the US.Her doctor has been fine with people visiting her as long as they keep their distance and wear masks since last winter - long before vaccines were widely available there.

We are being ridiculously over cautious with covid in this country.

I guess the question is whether you should restrict the healthy to protect the unhealthy. The unhealthy would say yes.
They and nphet in my opinion have exaggerated the dangers of covid to do this.
I believe they have manipulated the danger of Covid in the media. For a long time they did not release data on the age of people who died from covid.
I genuinely have sympathy for people who are at risk especially kids.

FintanMcluskey · 19-03-2021 12:11AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Last autumn we had an increase in cases due to household transmission after the schools reopened.

Now we have an increase in cases due to increased movement after the schools reopened.

Can anyone figure out the common denominator? Answers in a stamped addressed envelope please to PO box COVID 19, RTE, Dublin 4.

Is it because of the old woman who went to her brothers funeral?

Or was it because of them lads suspiciously smoking benson during a work break that Detective Mai Mannix spotted?

How many guesses do I get

d161 · 19-03-2021 12:11AM

d161 wrote: »

I guess the question is whether you should restrict the healthy to protect the unhealthy. The unhealthy would say yes.
They and nphet in my opinion have exaggerated the dangers of covid to do this.
I believe they have manipulated the danger of Covid in the media. For a long time they did not release data on the age of people who died from covid.
I genuinely have sympathy for people who are at risk especially kids.

Edit. Not all the old or u healthy would agree with restricting the healthy.

ypres5 · 19-03-2021 12:12AM

d161 wrote: »

What is gobsmacking is your selfish attitude.
Fcuk the kids to protect the old and vulnerable.

you can always spot some of the older people on this thread because they always put themselves on the crucifix and up themselves like their the greatest thing since sliced bread but then refer to themselves in the 3rd person to avoid sounding vain and the open contempt they hold for younger people

d161 · 19-03-2021 12:16AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Is it because of the old woman who went to her brothers funeral?

Or was it because of them lads suspiciously smoking benson during a work break that Detective Mai Mannix spotted?

How many guesses do I get

It was because its a virus and possibly mismanagement to an extent.
But to deflect its because of travel or Christmas or house parties or because of St Patrick's day.. Sorry that's next

d161 · 19-03-2021 12:17AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Wrong on both counts Fintan, the correct answer is, of course...Pubs!

I like that.
I think it's because they extended the opening hours of pubs?

d161 · 19-03-2021 12:19AM

ypres5 wrote: »

you can always spot the older people on this thread because they always put themselves on the crucifix and up themselves like their the greatest thing since sliced bread but then refer to themselves in the 3rd person to avoid sounding vain and the open contempt they hold for younger people

And they paid taxes.
Although that said I'm afraid to say but I'm old too,

ypres5 · 19-03-2021 12:21AM

d161 wrote: »

And they paid taxes.
Although that said I'm afraid to say but I'm old too,

sorry I'll edit that to some, it's unfair of me to tar everyone with the same brush. good point about taxation though, they're the only people who've ever paid taxes too and you'll hear all about the taxes they paid

Feria40 · 19-03-2021 12:26AM

The current 14 day incidence rate in Ireland is 144 per the ecdc website. For the same period the corresponding number for Spain is 146, we are neck and neck.

Restrictions vary from region to region in Spain and even town to town but there have been few total hospitality lockdowns in the last two waves.

Take Andalusia (population circa 8 million) over the past number of months, bars and restaurants have been free to open during daylight hours including inside. (Variation from town to town)

Each area in Andalusia reviews it's data I think every 2 weeks. From today many towns on the Costa del sol are allowing hospitality open from morning to 10.30pm.

While not as bad as here, the UK variant accounts for a large portion of Spanish cases. So why, when we are headed coming up on our 3rd full month of lockdown are we neck and neck with a country that has took a vastly different approach to waves 2 and 3 than us? What gives?!

Read the same for much of the non essential retail sector. You have a mega city like Madrid that sets its face against government urgings to shut down.

Yet look at both countries today

d161 · 19-03-2021 12:27AM

ypres5 wrote: »

sorry I'll edit that to some, it's unfair of me to tar everyone with the same brush. good point about taxation though, they're the only people who've ever paid taxes too and you'll hear all about the taxes they paid

I know, its incredible.
We all pay taxes but cause somebody paid 40 years it means their view point is more important.
I paid 30 years so my view is important ðŸ˜‚

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings