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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #6962
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,790 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    All I hear is “ concerned “
    They were concerned with 30 cases , 8000 cases and 500 cases . Its all white noise now , is anyone listening anymore ??

    Exactly, last summer with 4 cases per day they were on every night with their concerned hand wringing.

    Repeat the same thing over and over and it's inevitable that people will stop listening.

    Clowns


  • #6963
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    thebaz wrote: »
    meanwhile, they take days to make pro-active decisions , at a time of a pandemic, where we have been in lockdown for months. No ****ing urgency just doom and gloom, we are not doing enough, holdfirm nonsense.

    and the public lap it up, from our betters.

    "Hold firm" is the mantra of the entitled. Many of us have been forced to hit the pause button for over a year, with the economic and psychological fallout all but ignored. Meanwhile vaccines are dribbling along at a few thousand every day, not even 10% of the population have received their first jab. And then you have the dynamic duo Martin and Varadkar contradicting each other and muddying the waters on a regular basis. The communication these past few months has been nothing short of scandalous, and blaming an increasingly fed-up public only stirring the pot further.


  • #6964
    fm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭fm


    Gael23 wrote: »
    He said advice won’t change until at least June

    I doubt their advice will change anytime, doesn't mean ireland will or can opt out either.


  • #6965
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Gael23 wrote: »
    He said advice won’t change until at least June

    And you think there'll be mass travel before June anyway ?? Not a chance.

    Your taking Glynns comments completely out of context by saying we won't be participating in EU travel as that was never insinuated nor mentioned. The travel landscape isn't going to look much different in the next 2 months.


  • #6966
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,654 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    theballz wrote: »
    In the park beside my house, young people were drinking until all hours this morning. Garda didn’t bother dealing with them

    Young people have given up

    And would you blame them? No plan,no idea how we get out of this mess,if they came out and said we need cases/hospitalizations/ICU at a certain level and a % vaccinated before X is opened then at least people could see light at the end of the tunnel


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  • #6967
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,117 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    fm wrote: »
    I doubt their advice will change anytime, doesn't mean ireland will or can opt out either.

    Can they impose additional restrictions like quarantine on return to make it so difficult we won’t benefit?


  • #6968
    shamco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭shamco


    giveitholly wrote: »
    And would you blame them? No plan,no idea how we get out of this mess,if they came out and said we need cases/hospitalizations/ICU at a certain level and a % vaccinated before X is opened then at least people could see light at the end of the tunnel[/quote

    I see "long covid" was thrown into the mix by Glynn at the end of the press conference


  • #6969
    fm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭fm


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Can they impose additional restrictions like quarantine on return to make it so difficult we won’t benefit?

    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_21_1187

    This is some text from it


    The Digital Green Certificate can serve as proof of vaccination, testing and recovery in order to waive restrictions to free movement put in place in a Member State on public health grounds, such as testing or quarantine requirements.


  • #6970
    Golfman64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭Golfman64


    titan18 wrote: »
    Id imagine no shot that they will be opened.

    The leaks were construction and an extension to the 5k and some outdoor activities. That was it. That's all bwell get til May.

    Golf, Tennis, Construction, Click & Collect and maybe in country travel is all we will get until May, unfortunately.


  • #6971
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,603 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    giveitholly wrote: »
    And would you blame them? No plan,no idea how we get out of this mess,if they came out and said we need cases/hospitalizations/ICU at a certain level and a % vaccinated before X is opened then at least people could see light at the end of the tunnel

    Absolutely.
    We need a plan with clear milestones that people can look forward to and work towards.
    What we have is a complete lack of communication and urgency from those in charge.
    It’s just not working anymore.


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  • #6972
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,224 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Deeper Blue wrote: »
    Exactly, last summer with 4 cases per day they were on every night with their concerned hand wringing.

    Repeat the same thing over and over and it's inevitable that people will stop listening.

    Clowns

    Not . Only clowns are those commenting on it when they obviously don't have breeze ...

    Tonight's briefing was essential because of the day that was in it yesterday and Easter onthe way .
    Some people like to know where things are and which way it's going and tend to not see doom and gloom because focus is on other things .
    Also it was pretty positive or more so than last one , and in spite of the " stabilising " or otherwise stalling of cases .
    Talking about opening up outdoor activities before all vaccinated , before end of June .

    But do you watch it ? If you did you would know that ...

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  • #6973
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,224 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Golfman64 wrote: »
    Golf, Tennis, Construction, Click & Collect and maybe in country travel is all we will get until May, unfortunately.

    That sounds about right ..what's wrong with that ?
    Did the leak mention meeting people outdoors?

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  • #6974
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,067 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    41 in Galway, I wonder if a certain wedding helped influence that.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #6975
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Did Ronan Glynn really say no non essential travel until the end of June? So people won’t be allowed to travel to, for example, visit their parents living outside their county until the end of June. Even if those parents have been vaccinated. Even if they haven’t seen said parents for over a year.

    If I was to pick a day when NPHET totally lost the crowd, today’s press conference would be it. Ronan Glynn has no business telling us what the government should or shouldn’t be doing in 3 months times.


  • #6976
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Did Ronan Glynn really say no non essential travel until the end of June? So people won’t be allowed to travel to, for example, visit their parents living outside their county until the end of June. Even if those parents have been vaccinated. Even if they haven’t seen said parents for over a year.


    .

    Seriously?


  • #6977
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Stheno wrote: »
    Seriously?

    Reported here:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-advice-on-working-from-home-travel-to-remain-until-june-nphet-1.4513955


  • #6978
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,575 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Did Ronan Glynn really say no non essential travel until the end of June? So people won’t be allowed to travel to, for example, visit their parents living outside their county until the end of June. Even if those parents have been vaccinated. Even if they haven’t seen said parents for over a year.

    If I was to pick a day when NPHET totally lost the crowd, today’s press conference would be it. Ronan Glynn has no business telling us what the government should or shouldn’t be doing in 3 months times.

    No.
    Glynn: "I don't see our advice [on international travel] changing in the short-term… up to the end of June".

    There's some jumping the gun going on in the outrage tonight.


  • #6979
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    No.



    There's some jumping the gun going on in the outrage tonight.

    The Irish times article refers to non essential travel. That doesn’t just mean travel abroad, it means any non essential travel.


  • #6980
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,224 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Did Ronan Glynn really say no non essential travel until the end of June? So people won’t be allowed to travel to, for example, visit their parents living outside their county until the end of June. Even if those parents have been vaccinated. Even if they haven’t seen said parents for over a year.

    If I was to pick a day when NPHET totally lost the crowd, today’s press conference would be it. Ronan Glynn has no business telling us what the government should or shouldn’t be doing in 3 months times.

    It was said in the context of rising cases internationally across Europe .

    Obviously would have some bearing if you yourself were vaccinated and travelling to see vaccinated family .

    I suppose the only crowd he is " losing" here would be those who may want to head off on non essential travelling before it is safe to do so .

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  • #6981
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    No.



    There's some jumping the gun going on in the outrage tonight.

    I’m surprised that people are surprised by this to be honest. It’s been well flagged up by government that foreign travel isn’t on the cards for the foreseeable. Does no one remember Leo advising us to staycation again this year?


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  • #6982
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    41 in Galway, I wonder if a certain wedding helped influence that.

    doubtful , blood alcohol at .40% is known to kill the virus

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #6983
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,575 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    The Irish times article refers to non essential travel. That doesn’t just mean travel abroad, it means any non essential travel.

    Well if you listened to the man speaking, he was specifically talking about international travel. But take a second hand report if it's suits the agenda.


  • #6984
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,790 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Not . Only clowns are those commenting on it when they obviously don't have breeze ...

    Tonight's briefing was essential because of the day that was in it yesterday and Easter onthe way .
    Some people like to know where things are and which way it's going and tend to not see doom and gloom because focus is on other things .
    Also it was pretty positive or more so than last one , and in spite of the " stabilising " or otherwise stalling of cases .
    Talking about opening up outdoor activities before all vaccinated , before end of June .

    But do you watch it ? If you did you would know that ...

    I did watch it, and my eyes and ears don't lie to me.


  • #6985
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Well if you listened to the man speaking, he was specifically talking about international travel. But take a second hand report if it's suits the agenda.

    I'm happy to be corrected, that's why I asked if that is what he really said. If he said ""international travel" then fine. But "non essential" travel is what the Irish Times have reported.


  • #6986
    Indestructable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    Golfman64 wrote: »
    Golf, Tennis, Construction, Click & Collect and maybe in country travel is all we will get until May, unfortunately.

    I would think even this is in jeopardy now.

    With France and Germany increasing restrictions, NPHET will point to those and say it's too risky, even though our incidence rate is far lower.


  • #6987
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,575 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    I'm happy to be corrected, that's why I asked if that is what he really said. If he said ""international travel" then fine. But "non essential" travel is what the Irish Times have reported.

    It was non-essential foreign travel.

    The Irish Times states
    While the EU is planning to open up travel for people who are vaccinated, have been tested or have had a recent infection, Dr Glynn said there will be “no change” to the advice of the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet) against international travel before the end of June.


  • #6988
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,224 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Did Ronan Glynn really say no non essential travel until the end of June? So people won’t be allowed to travel to, for example, visit their parents living outside their county until the end of June. Even if those parents have been vaccinated. Even if they haven’t seen said parents for over a year.

    If I was to pick a day when NPHET totally lost the crowd, today’s press conference would be it. Ronan Glynn has no business telling us what the government should or shouldn’t be doing in 3 months times.

    It was said in the context of rising cases internationally across Europe .

    Obviously would have some bearing if you yourself were vaccinated and travelling to see vaccinated family .

    I suppose the only crowd he is " losing" here would be those who may want to head off on non essential travelling before it is safe to do so .

    The object is to prevent variants being brought into the country before majority of people vaccinated

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  • #6989
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    The Irish times article refers to non essential travel. That doesn’t just mean travel abroad, it means any non essential travel.

    In the press conference he was quite clearly referring to international travel. IT clearly not getting the context in which he was speaking


  • #6990
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,224 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Deeper Blue wrote: »
    I did watch it, and my eyes and ears don't lie to me.

    Well neither do mine so big difference of perception there :)

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  • #6991
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    It was non-essential foreign travel.

    The Irish Times states

    Thanks. The first paragraph of the Irish times report says "non-essential travel", doesn't mention international. Usual sloppy journalism I guess


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