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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #6752
    Sobit1964
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Arghus wrote: »
    Yes, but we don't have enough people vaccinated right now - it's mainly HCW workers, care home residents and the very oldest - to not come under pressure again if there's a rise in cases in the short term.

    Very much agree with all of this. I wonder though, what might be the level of cases which would introduce pressure now, as it should already be somewhat higher? Could for example 1000 daily cases cause the same level of hospitalisations, given the admittedly small vaccination rate?

    Only as an theory, we are not far enough along on vaccinating people for it to be used for anything, the drop off in vulnerable is a factor which is not discussed enough.


  • #6753
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1372341536336322566/photo/1

    Bizarre but very consistent Western pattern of COVID proceeds..wonder will we avoid it

    I think that was us at Christmas


  • #6754
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Hospital operations update

    In hospital 343 (decrease of 6)
    In ICU 82 (decrease of 3)

    1 death in ICU the last 24hrs.


  • #6755
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    biko wrote: »
    John Pombe Magufuli, President of Tanzania and famous for instructing tests of coronavirus on goats, papaya, sheep, and all apparently found to be positive for Covid-19, has died in hospital from Corona.

    BBC said it was due to complications from a heart condition.


  • #6756
    shtpEdthePlum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭shtpEdthePlum


    This time around, my family have been potentially exposed. Guess what the common factor is in three separate possible outbreaks my family are currently enduring?

    Kids being exposed it at school and maybe bringing it home.

    Luckily nobody is sick, all awaiting results but there are a total of 10 people in my family who might have picked it up off 3 of their children right now. Granted one family is abroad but the other seven people currently possibly infected are all in Ireland.

    We haven't even been tested or anything up until this last fortnight and suddenly all the smallies are having to have their brains scraped :(

    I can't believe that's still the best way of collecting a swab, even from a child.


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  • #6757
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭fits


    shtpEdthePlum wrote: »
    This time around, my family have been potentially exposed. Guess what the common factor is in three separate possible outbreaks my family are currently enduring?

    Kids being exposed it at school and maybe bringing it home.

    Luckily nobody is sick, all awaiting results but there are a total of 10 people in my family who might have picked it up off 3 of their children right now. Granted one family is abroad but the other seven people currently possibly infected are all in Ireland.

    We haven't even been tested or anything up until this last fortnight and suddenly all the smallies are having to have their brains scraped :(

    I can't believe that's still the best way of collecting a swab, even from a child.

    When my boys were tested they took swabs from the nose. It was fine.

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  • #6758
    shtpEdthePlum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭shtpEdthePlum


    Yeah they were fine but I just hate thinking about the discomfort of it when they're all so small.

    No doubt it won't be the last time they need to be tested either.


  • #6759
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,441 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    shtpEdthePlum wrote: »
    Yeah they were fine but I just hate thinking about the discomfort of it when they're all so small.

    No doubt it won't be the last time they need to be tested either.

    A lot better than what they are doing/the way they are testing in China....swab in one of you holes (and a hole not in your head!).

    My kids were tested and not a bother on them.


  • #6760
    Marty Bird
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    shtpEdthePlum wrote: »
    Yeah they were fine but I just hate thinking about the discomfort of it when they're all so small.

    No doubt it won't be the last time they need to be tested either.

    The test is absolutely fine for kids just a small rub inside the nostril just like the antigen tests my lad had no issue.

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  • #6761
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Another screwup for the gubberment or the HSE?
    Inundated general practitioners say the government has undersupplied them with Covid-19 vaccine doses, mixed up their contact details on its national booking system

    Nah, mate! Australia!

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/18/doctors-complain-of-covid-vaccine-undersupply-as-phone-lines-flooded-with-bookings


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  • #6762
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    I'd say there will be a sizeable increase in cases after seeing what I did yesterday.

    The family and I went to a local beauty spot (within 5k, we are lucky) in the evening so as to avoid the crowds that were no doubt there earlier with the weather being like it was. It was busy enough but not crowded so we went on our walk. On the way back, I'm not kidding when I say the hoards descended. Packs of older teens all walking/drinking/sitting close together basically being normal teens. But in the time of covid it was concerning to see. Of course none had masks but they were practically on top of each other. Most of them were drinking cans or already drunk (all seemed like lovely kids just having a great time tbh). One group came down towards the last bit of path and there was about 30 or so all walking & messing together. Driving back home and going through the village was a sight. Looked like a festival was on with the amount of people everywhere, just missing the floats. No masks on anyone.

    Must have been the same + the house parties absolutely everywhere. This with the schools going back and Easter coming up is no doubt the tipping point that keeps being reported on, "the knifes edge."

    Edit to add, there are playdates absolutely everywhere too. We've been asked twice now if a child in my kids' classes can come over to play, and an offer by another family to "bubble" with us though I know they already have at least two other bubbles going on (one elderly parents the other an older child who lives in another county). The local kids are all playing outside with eachother again, too. Getting harder to tell my kids no.

    If we're locked down all summer I'll risk getting arrested or a fine at this stage.


  • #6763
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,654 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Look on,I was out and about doing nothing wrong but everyone else should get jail. Great to see people out and enjoying themselves must be great for the mind and soul


  • #6764
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Yeah must be great for the mind and soul alright, and it was great to see people out enjoying themselves tbh but will we be paying for it in the near future...


  • #6765
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,654 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Yeah must be great for the mind and soul alright, and it was great to see people out enjoying themselves tbh but will we be paying for it in the near future...

    Well we have been saying the same thing for a year now people are fed up and the direction and communication from the government is scandalous. No exit strategy at all,only treat the general population with contempt and talk down to them. When cases rise they are quick to blame the behaviour of the general public


  • #6766
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Yeah must be great for the mind and soul alright, and it was great to see people out enjoying themselves tbh but will we be paying for it in the near future...
    We might but being outside should help mitigate it. As you suggested in your own post people may well be more inclined to take the fine at this stage. If nothing else it is a reminder of how much pressure the 5km is really putting on people.


  • #6767
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    As the days become longer and the weather hopefully stays decent there needs to be strong focus on outdoors activities. A year ago there was a poor understanding on transmission dynamics. A year on It's now great to see so many outdoors as outdoors is the safest place you can be and yes people should act responsible when enjoying the outdoors,


  • #6768
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Yeah must be great for the mind and soul alright, and it was great to see people out enjoying themselves tbh but will we be paying for it in the near future...

    More of this nonsense . It's been a year now . When will we pay for outdoor gatherings .


  • #6769
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    To be fair, these are not just simple outdoor gatherings.These were large groups of kids all in each others faces. There's no mitigating for that.

    Haven't other countries mandated masks outdoors more recently? I'm well aware the risk is lower outside, but it's not gone and these were people not social distancing in the slightest either.


  • #6770
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    manofwisdom wrote: »
    As the days become longer and the weather hopefully stays decent there needs to be strong focus on outdoors activities. A year ago there was a poor understanding on transmission dynamics. A year on It's now great to see so many outdoors as outdoors is the safest place you can be and yes people should act responsible when enjoying the outdoors,

    Definitely. NPHET etc need to accept the reality that people will be meeting up, they should be encouraging people to meet outdoors and stop this nonsense of telling people they can't meet at all.


  • #6771
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,071 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    I'm sure it was all just outdoor gatherings yesterday too. No groups of lads sitting inside drinking and watching Cheltenham or house parties happening at all.


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  • #6772
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,915 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Yeah must be great for the mind and soul alright, and it was great to see people out enjoying themselves tbh but will we be paying for it in the near future...

    I don't think so - generally speaking people were outdoors enjoying the much needed sunshine


  • #6773
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Definitely. NPHET etc need to accept the reality that people will be meeting up, they should be encouraging people to meet outdoors and stop this nonsense of telling people they can't meet at all.
    NPHET's approach is solely being driven by cases. Whether that recognises that we are probably going to have a higher than desired ongoing level is unclear but they can't ignore the likelihood that compliance will begin to slip a whole lot more in the coming weeks and months.


  • #6774
    FlubberJones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Definitely. NPHET etc need to accept the reality that people will be meeting up, they should be encouraging people to meet outdoors and stop this nonsense of telling people they can't meet at all.

    Even in the small park area near my place, there were many groups of families meeting, chatting having picnics, the government have to be BLIND not to realise this is happening... It seems harmless and they need to adapt the restrictions to respond to it


  • #6775
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    If it's so harmless then why are all outdoor gatherings/sports/beauty spots outside 5km/concerts etc banned? Is it not because when large groups gather it still causes transmission, outdoor or not. That's why they say we can meet up with only one other person for exercise?


  • #6776
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    If it's so harmless then why are all outdoor gatherings/sports/beauty spots outside 5km/concerts etc banned? Is it not because when large groups gather it still causes transmission, outdoor or not. That's why they say we can meet up with only one other person for exercise?

    people have made up their minds and its fantastic to see.
    We may not be at protests but everyone I know has given up on 5km, and everyone I know is meeting more than 1 person. Its called living.

    You cannot stop living because you are afraid of dying. And very few people are afraid of Covid at this stage. Everything outdoor should be open.


  • #6777
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Readying myself for the cringe-fest tonight that is listening to awkward Ronan Glynn say, "Good evening everybody. Today we are reporting 357 cases of COVID-19" - as if it were 357 cases of bubonic plague with a fatality rate of 50%.


  • #6778
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,071 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    people have made up their minds and its fantastic to see.
    We may not be at protests but everyone I know has given up on 5km, and everyone I know is meeting more than 1 person. Its called living.

    You cannot stop living because you are afraid of dying. And very few people are afraid of Covid at this stage. Everything outdoor should be open.

    Whilst I agree. Unfortunately, the government and NPHET don't and they'll use yesterday as a stick to not open anything else.


  • #6779
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,596 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Beasty wrote: »
    Not sure that is the case. The additional factor is vaccines administered. That means most vulnerable, would would previously have been at higher risk of hospitalisation, now may not catch it, or if they do their symptoms may be less serious than without the vaccine

    I would guess that's why we have seen infections stabalise around the 500 level but have been seeing drops in deaths, ICU and hospitalisations

    Yeah and if this is the case why are we putting so much weight behind daily numbers?
    Surely hospitalisations are now the important barometer.


  • #6780
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Anecdotal of course, but pretty much everyone I know has had enough now, even my elderly MIL was asking would we come up to her garden with the smallies yesterday. We didn't, as she hasn't had her vaccine yet, but she has been living in absolute terror the last year glued to RTE tv/radio. So for her to ask us to come was surreal to say the least. I just don't want it on us if she caught it right before getting her vaccine, which she still hasn't heard a dicky bird about.
    My other friends and families are all meeting up outside now for walks etc. The Government/Nphet etc. have really lost people now I feel, its just been too long of the doom and gloom. I know its a pandemic, but there has to be some carrot.
    I don't have the answers, but we need something to look forward too.


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  • #6781
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There are 600,000 over 65s in Ireland - who account for 12 percent of the population and 92% of all COVID-19 deaths.

    Given that 10 percent of the population have already been vaccinated, admittedly including many healthcare workers etc., surely we are approaching the point where the risk of hospitals becoming overwhelmed with the most vulnerable patients is approaching the X-axis?


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