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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,321 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9368213/Nicola-Sturgeon-says-Scotlands-pubs-restaurants-OK-reopen-food-INDOORS-April-26.html

    Scotland opening indoors dining and 'wet' pubs by April 26th - 3 weeks ahead on England. Road trip to NI - ferry to Scotland?

    Half a days travel to sit outside a pub in Scottish weather and drink till 10?

    Enjoy.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Half a days travel to sit outside a pub in Scottish weather and drink till 10?

    Enjoy.....

    Could make a long wknd out of it though.
    This is brilliant news about Scotland tbf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    dalyboy wrote: »
    Could make a long wknd out of it though.
    This is brilliant news about Scotland tbf

    If you are WFH, no reason you couldnt get a nice monthly discount on an AirBNB and ride out some of what's left of Ireland's interminable lockdown v3. Would be nice to experience the green shoots of normality away from the wagging fingers of our bunch of leaders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    I can't believe how fat I'm getting. It's made me realise how many calories you burn just walking around to and from work and other daily activities because I still exercise like I used to but it's not keeping the pounds off. I've noticed it a lot in people I know, people I havn't bumped into ages or seen a photo of in a good while, gained dramatic amounts of weight over the last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,884 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    ypres5 wrote: »
    we're ignoring the hse and ema now that we've taken it upon ourselves to suspend the astrazeneca vaccine, as if our rollout wasn't slow enough already

    EMA are saying that AZ vaccine does not cause clotting, again today -

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/no-indication-astrazeneca-vaccine-caused-blood-clots-says-ema-director-1.4511809?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fhealth%2Fno-indication-astrazeneca-vaccine-caused-blood-clots-says-ema-director-1.4511809

    Thats what we were told we were waiting for, and still we lose another day , no ****ing urgency in getting this vaccine rolled out - are the press quizzing Glynn and NPHET on the slowness of our rollout program - a dithering effort in trying to solve this never-ending problem.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    thebaz wrote: »
    EMA are saying that AZ vaccine does not cause clotting, again today -

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/no-indication-astrazeneca-vaccine-caused-blood-clots-says-ema-director-1.4511809?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fhealth%2Fno-indication-astrazeneca-vaccine-caused-blood-clots-says-ema-director-1.4511809

    Thats what we were told we were waiting for, and still we lose another day , no ****ing urgency in getting this vaccine rolled out - are the press quizzing Glynn and NPHET on the slowness of our rollout program - a dithering effort in trying to solve this never-ending problem.

    you can see on here there's people who just seem to blindly defend the government, nphet and the hse to the hilt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    Northern Ireland are pushing ahead with a cautionary reopening from the start of April, outdoor dining etc will be open there by the end of April I reckon. Only a matter of time before we follow, thank God for the North!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    Northern Ireland are pushing ahead with a cautionary reopening from the start of April, outdoor dining etc will be open there by the end of April I reckon. Only a matter of time before we follow, thank God for the North!

    They'll be open in time for marching season. DUP will see to that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    They'll be open in time for marching season. DUP will see to that

    Don't care when they are reopen tbh once it kicks our idiots down here into action which it will


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    They'll be open in time for marching season. DUP will see to that
    Even Dr black said he hopes people stick with the virus restrictions over st patricks day and easter. no mention of the 12th.


    Seriously they'll be long open by then.

    luckily the nearest town in the north is only 4 mile from me so when it does open I can venture down for a pint if I so wish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭ingo1984


    hamburgham wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/covid-19-one-of-the-lowest-causes-of-death-in-ireland-between-june-and-september-2020-1.4511871#.YFDhLZXh1cA.mailto

    Covid one of the lowest causes of death in Ireland in Q3 2020

    In case you don't feel like reading it.

    Jul- Sept 2020
    Total deaths 7,111
    Cancer 2,356
    Covid 191

    And if the terminally ill cancer patient had covid when they died, classified as covid rather than a cancer death. Corelation rather than causation is what matters when classifying a covid death. You can only laugh.

    191 average age 84 died from covid.

    94 people, probably young, died from taking their own life. No doubt brought on by lockdown etc.

    Shocking stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,878 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Northern Ireland are pushing ahead with a cautionary reopening from the start of April, outdoor dining etc will be open there by the end of April I reckon. Only a matter of time before we follow, thank God for the North!

    It may be the one thing that shames our Government into action.

    Even the most ardent of the lockdown clappy-seals will start to question our strategy when life returns to normal in Nordieland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Not much point in blaming the government for the slow pace as incompetent as the are, as the opposition want the same restrictions and more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Even Dr black said he hopes people stick with the virus restrictions over st patricks day and easter. no mention of the 12th.


    Seriously they'll be long open by then.

    luckily the nearest town in the north is only 4 mile from me so when it does open I can venture down for a pint if I so wish.

    Enjoy the pint! Maybe I am being overly optimistic but I reckon the game is up for the shower down here once the North opens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Not much point in blaming the government for the slow pace as incompetent as the are, as the oppositiobn want the same restrictions and more.

    Very true they are all as useless as each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    It may be the one thing that shames our Government into action.

    Even the most ardent of the lockdown clappy-seals will start to question our strategy when life returns to normal in Nordieland.

    Yep, a fire is going to be lit under there arses very shortly. People especially on the border won't obey any restrictions if a pint ad a meal are on offer across the road


  • Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Still don't see how going by the slow roll out of the vaccine, how restrictions will be eased anytime soon. I expect AZ deferral has slowed opening up by at least a month. We haven't even started vaccinating the over 70s vulnerable yet. Think it's only ones who are in hospital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,339 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Still don't see how going by the slow roll out of the vaccine, how restrictions will be eased anytime soon. I expect AZ deferral has slowed opening up by at least a month. We haven't even started vaccinating the over 70s vulnerable yet. Think it's only ones who are in hospital.

    The AZ delay has been two days so far.

    How can that be extrapolated into a month’s delay in relaxation of restrictions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,913 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    ingo1984 wrote: »
    94 people, probably young, died from taking their own life. No doubt brought on by lockdown etc.

    All of them of course, because suicide was completely unknown in Ireland before covid restrictions...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭themacattack.


    Yep, a fire is going to be lit under there arses very shortly. People especially on the border won't obey any restrictions if a pint ad a meal are on offer across the road

    even people not near the border....im near dublin and if they open everything in the north id be going up on a fri aftternoon and come back sunday night


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear


    All of them of course, because suicide was completely unknown in Ireland before covid restrictions...

    Infairness if you were close to the edge already this **** would push you over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    There was a protest today in Dublin to show solidarity with Sarah Everard

    RTE: Dozens of protesters chanting "reclaim the streets" and "we are the 97%" turned out in Dublin in solidarity with demonstrations across the world following the death of Sarah Everard in England

    Activists had their names taken by gardaí and were warned they could face fines under the Covid-19 regulations if they did not disperse.

    Some of those present chose not to continue with the protest, saying they could not afford the fines.

    Link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,913 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    SnuggyBear wrote: »
    Infairness if you were close to the edge already this **** would push you over.

    According to this there were 421 suicides in Ireland in 2019, that's 100-odd per quarter
    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0529/1143489-vital-statistics/

    So I could assert with just as much justicifation as ingo1984 that lockdown is helping prevent suicide....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ingo1984 wrote: »
    94 people, probably young, died from taking their own life. No doubt brought on by lockdown etc.

    According to the (provisional) CSO Suicides are down 28% in 2020 compared to the same three quarters in 2019.

    The coroners seem to agree.

    Suicides have not increased during pandemic, figures indicate

    People who constantly bleat the false narrative can be damaging according to one expert.
    It is a rare, relatively positive note in media coverage of the issue, but important to highlight, says Prof Ella Arensman, chief scientist with the National Suicide Research Foundation at University College Cork.

    She says “sensational” headlines – especially in the British press – claiming a “tsunami of suicides” can be harmful.

    Those kinds of headlines could be really harmful for people who are struggling, and who may not be getting their usual, intensive kinds of psychological or psychiatric treatments. If they see again and again the statements about increased suicides on top of so many Covid deaths, it could have a harmful effect on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Boggles wrote: »
    According to the (provisional) CSO Suicides are down 28% in 2020 compared to the same three quarters in 2019.

    The coroners seem to agree.

    Suicides have not increased during pandemic, figures indicate

    People who constantly bleat the false narrative can be damaging according to one expert.

    I don't think one expert said 'people who constantly bleat', but i'm sure most readers are used to your insertion of emotive terms to make a point on behalf of the experts.

    Lets not run with provisional CSO statistics as these indicate many strange things about deaths during this incomplete recording period. We all really need the complete finalised counts as morbid as they may be to properly make sense of many aspects of this pandemic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    I don't think one expert said 'people who constantly bleat', but i'm sure most readers are used to your insertion of emotive terms to make a point on behalf of the experts.

    I quoted and highlighted what she said Bold.

    But I guess you know better.

    :rolleyes:

    Basically people like OP should keep their unfounded opinions to themselves because it may do harm to someone who is struggling reading it, is the jist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Boggles wrote: »
    I quoted and highlighted what she said Bold.

    But I guess you know better.

    :rolleyes:

    Thank you for clearing that up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Boggles wrote: »
    I quoted and highlighted what she said Bold.

    But I guess you know better.

    :rolleyes:

    Basically people like OP should keep their unfounded opinions to themselves because it may do harm to someone who is struggling reading it, is the jist.

    You used incomplete CSO statistics to make a claim which cannot be substantiated and then falsely equated it to a legitimate report calling out sensational headlines.

    I would say you might take some of your own advice there, that's the jist. The OP also made a claim which equally cannot be substantiated - i'm not defending his/her post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    You used incomplete CSO statistics to make a claim which cannot be substantiated and then falsely equated it to a legitimate report calling out sensational headlines.

    I would say you might take some of your own advice there, that's the jist. The OP also made a claim which equally cannot be substantiated - i'm not defending his/her post.

    I neither work for the CSO nor am I a coroner. So no, none of them are my claims.

    It's pretty apparent you didn't read or you misunderstood my post and the article I link to.

    Maybe give them another go eh?


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  • Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Allinall wrote: »
    The AZ delay has been two days so far.

    How can that be extrapolated into a month’s delay in relaxation of restrictions?

    Vaccination schedule (based off supply.of AZ) has been deferred until April.


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