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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,738 ✭✭✭scamalert


    Scary to witness how easily democratic freedoms are extinguished.

    We have seen in this country, the removal of civil liberties on the flimsiest of pretexts. We have seen the Guards mobilsed to prevent the protesting of the removal of these liberties. We have seen the State media coopted into spreading propaganda and fear.

    Most chillingly, we have seen our fellow citizens cheer this on.

    The bar has now been set incredibly low to have your freedoms removed on the whim of a Government. This crowd are cowardly and incompetent The next lot may be taking their instructions from a shadowy cabal of terrorists and subversives.
    wouldnt call it so grim, the protest in Dublin was mix n match of far left and right wing nuts, and throw in scum that were around doing it just for ****s and it wasnt really a protest, not in any normal way anyhow, the root issue lies that government spalshed millions to give away basically for anyone, then started to implement whatever crap they could come up with that created small bubble of those that prob lived in their own reality for long before covid came and same people will rant that we need those restrictions. only benefit is most of them can do it online so it sort of doesnt matter what they say, as majority want to move on with life covid or not, and arent buying into this BS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear


    darem93 wrote: »
    Things will really start to get interesting when the North reopens and we're still left here hoping the 5km limit might be extended to 10km.

    When they talk about lifting the 5k limit is it really just increasing it to 10k? That's funny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    dalyboy wrote: »
    Yip. The minute the north reopens I’ll have a tank of fuel in the car and off we go. First stop is the quays shopping centre in Newry. Then beers in a pub. A game of golf. A pleasant night in a hotel with a pool. A game of tennis next day etc etc.

    Only 40 mins up the road from where I am.

    Priority action will be to de-program RTÉ and newstalk from my car radio though.
    Don’t want the presence of them extremists with me on my journey.

    There'll be a hell of a lot behind you. It's only an hours drive for over a million people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    SnuggyBear wrote: »
    When they talk about lifting the 5k limit is it really just increasing it to 10k? That's funny

    A sure way to lose all compliance with such a pathetic excuse at relaxing the rules.

    If they actually do that, its insulting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭walus


    SnuggyBear wrote: »
    When they talk about lifting the 5k limit is it really just increasing it to 10k? That's funny

    Which is what people have done by themselves a month ago already.

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,738 ✭✭✭scamalert


    timmyntc wrote: »
    A sure way to lose all compliance with such a pathetic excuse at relaxing the rules.

    If they actually do that, its insulting
    i dont know about most but there was no difference for me when it was lvl 3 or lvl5 , if i go to shops its outside 5km since the start and never cared how far i walk my dog, its imaginary boundary thats put up and believe no one actually treats it as that, so whetever its 5-10 or 20km rule it doesnt matter for most, give normal reason and most guards dont care where your off as long as its not piss take.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Does anyone actually believe this nonsense anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    JRant wrote: »
    Medical professionals

    Do you think Ronan should be their with a baton tomorrow?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Some of the comments on Journal.ie articles

    "Yes it’s the right thing to do and I think lockdown level 5 should be extended till the end of 2021 and everyone is vaccinated or if need be into early 2022"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    The timing and brazenness of it shocks me for sure. The fact it doesn't even look to be specifically caused/triggered by or solely related to COVID is similarly shocking. What will also shock me is that after this year I think many people will also support it.

    Again, Britain's trajectory for the future has absolutely nothing to with Covid.

    When the Ethan boys start bleating about lack of democracy because of the EU, what they really mean is they want their brand of democracy. Bloody peasants and oversight has to go.

    Now, of course they can impose that when a certain majority of the populous believe whatever is written on the side of a bus.

    It's not like they weren't warned.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,174 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    People - relax the restrictions. We will not take the pi$$.

    People -
    dalyboy wrote: »
    Yip. The minute the north reopens I’ll have a tank of fuel in the car and off we go. First stop is the quays shopping centre in Newry. Then beers in a pub. A game of golf. A pleasant night in a hotel with a pool. A game of tennis next day etc etc.

    Only 40 mins up the road from where I am.

    Priority action will be to de-program RTÉ and newstalk from my car radio though.
    Don’t want the presence of them extremists with me on my journey.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    GT89 wrote: »
    Does anyone actually believe this nonsense anymore

    How can you believe it really when you look at the stats,

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1371800896309448704


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Boggles wrote: »

    Now, of course they can impose that when a certain majority of the populous believe whatever is written on the side of a bus.

    Thats a good point - its similar to here where a certain majority of the populous believe whatever is suggested on RTE each night, and this gives rise to all kinds of frankly wild impositions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    It's not a 'good' idea, you'd hope people would have the sense not to during a pandemic, but a law banning any peaceful protests is definitely a worse idea. Especially as we saw in the summer that distanced/masked protests for BLM did not lead to any significant outbreaks, but even that kind of event will no longer be permitted.

    A law in the UK or blm definitely has nothing to do with the relaxation of restrictions here.

    Feel strongly about then maybe a thread about might be an idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    Making authoritarian laws which stick around using a pandemic as an excuse is what people are discussing - do try to keep up.

    Ah conspiracy theory stuff about laws in he UK. Get ya.

    And just not conflate the two- on the other hand laws to help slow down the spread of covid here? Source of same saying any such laws are going to 'stick" around here which isn't some looney bin website?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    gozunda wrote: »
    A law in the UK or blm definitely has nothing to do with the relaxation of restrictions here.

    Feel strongly about then maybe a thread about might be an idea.

    It is relevant considering there is a large police operation planned to disrupt any protests on St.Patricks day whether peaceful or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    Thats a good point - its similar to here where a certain majority of the populous believe whatever is suggested on RTE each night, and this gives rise to all kinds of frankly wild impositions.

    Side of a bus would also be online grifter with all the easy solutions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    gozunda wrote: »
    Ah conspiracy theory stuff about laws in he UK. Get ya.

    And just not conflate the two- on the other hand laws to help slow down the spread of covid here? Source of same saying any such laws are going to 'stick" around here which isn't some looney bin website?

    You have some reason to believe that the powers which have been invoked will not be invoked again in the future? Bit of a conspiracy theory that one, not at all based on any serious study of anything. But please do feel free to share some 'sources'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Scary to witness how easily democratic freedoms are extinguished. We have seen in this country, the removal of civil liberties on the flimsiest of pretexts. We have seen the Guards mobilsed to prevent the protesting of the removal of these liberties. We have seen the State media coopted into spreading propaganda and fear.Most chillingly, we have seen our fellow citizens cheer this on.The bar has now been set incredibly low to have your freedoms removed on the whim of a Government. This crowd are cowardly and incompetent The next lot may be taking their instructions from a shadowy cabal of terrorists and subversives.


    Jayzus the hyperbole and utter nonsense in that comment is truely gobsmacking.

    One thing you forgot facehugger and didn't mention once ....

    We're in the middle of a pandemic and are currently attempting to keep the rate of infection down whilst vaccinations are rolled out.

    And yea I know its not been a smooth road by any description but ffs a bit less from anarchists book of quotes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭walus


    GT89 wrote: »
    Does anyone actually believe this nonsense anymore

    The ease that people lap up information and internalize it is unbelievable. Independent thinking is almost extinct.

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    It is relevant considering there is a large police operation planned to disrupt any protests on St.Patricks day whether peaceful or not.

    Let's be honest here. What will scutter into Dublin tomorrow in the majority will be a bunch of fúcking clowns who couldn't give 2 flying fúcks about you or your family.

    You''ll have the racist scum using the pandemic to recruit weak minded individuals into racist scummary, then you will have the weak minded individuals howling the elite are Luciferians trying to kill babies.

    Then you will have the guards in the middle of it trying not to get hospitalized by bottles and fireworks.

    So probably best to try and cut it off a source, because the alternative is the inevitable.

    Trying to pretend it's an attack on democracy is not reality.

    But again certain individuals will love that's framed that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    You have some reason to believe that the powers which have been invoked will not be invoked again in the future? Bit of a conspiracy theory that one, not at all based on any serious study of anything. But please do feel free to share some 'sources'.

    Ah I see even more conspiracy theories well done.

    Btw I asked a question which you didn't answer - so once again please provide a

    Source of same saying any such laws are going to 'stick" around here which isn't some looney bin website?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Kiith wrote: »
    Fan of COVID restrictions or not, this should be one thing everyone can agree is extremely dangerous if true.

    Tory boy Neale Richmond isn't far behind based on this mornings tweet.
    Wonder how he will feel if the 12th of July parades are cancelled again this year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    walus wrote: »
    The ease that people lap up information and internalize it is unbelievable. Independent thinking is almost extinct.

    Biggest example of this right now is the fear being stoked up about the AZ vaccine - which will result in slower rollouts, deaths, and which has been strongly disputed by the nearly all science, and the gatekeepers at the WHO/EMA etc. Who would play political games in the middle of a pandemic - or if not games react so strongly and incorrectly to panic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    gozunda wrote: »
    Ah I see even more conspiracy theories well done.

    Btw I asked a question which you didn't answer - so once again please provide a

    Source of same saying any such laws are going to 'stick" around here which isn't some looney bin website?

    I said it on this forum no less than 30 minutes ago. Can you provide any evidence that the body of law reduces over time rather than increases - its ok if you cant find a link on RTE to support this - im happy to take your opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    the trouble in town tomorrow will involve people who live within 5k of the city centre

    they need very little excuse to have a go at the gardai

    love ulster, queen visits or covid

    makes no difference to them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Look at the bigger picture. Pandemic will end. Protests need to be an option forever. I'm not even anti-lockdown as such (restrictions are needed unfortunately), I don't think it's a "good idea" to be gathering at the moment, nor have I attended any such, but for fucck sake, would you not engage your brain a bit? The virus is not the only thing happening in the world.

    May I suggest you do the same?. This is a thread a covid and the relaxation of restrictions. And as you say there's other things happening in the world. Start a thread - it could be an interesting topic indeed.

    But as it is - its a UK law being dragged up here by the usual sources for a bit of ol agitation about why everyone should go out and protest now completely regardless of any notion that we're in the midst of a pandemic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    Kiith wrote: »
    Fan of COVID restrictions or not, this should be one thing everyone can agree is extremely dangerous if true.

    Sorry man but Boggles and his band of merry men have proven you wrong on that one🙁


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    the trouble in town tomorrow will involve people who live within 5k of the city centre

    they need very little excuse to have a go at the gardai

    love ulster, queen visits or covid

    makes no difference to them

    I hope there are massive protests tomorrow, peaceful of course, but it won't happen, people are happy to stay at home believing it will be over soon ....

    I wonder when St Patricks day 2022 will be off as well what they will think ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    gozunda wrote: »
    May I suggest you do the same?. This is a thread a covid and the relaxation of restrictions. And as you say there's other things happening in the world. Start a thread - it could be an interesting topic indeed.

    But as it is - its a UK law being dragged up here by the usual sources for a bit of ol agitation about why everyone should go out and protest now.

    Thats simply not true - there is a discussion over protests in Dublin. There has been a discussion over policing at the recent Dublin and Cork protests.

    I'm interested as im sure are others in discussing this in relation to the relaxation of restrictions - I don't see these protests having much if any effect.

    Please don't try and shut down peoples voices and close off debate. Protests are also relevant in other countries as they are popping up all over Europe, to a larger degree than here. Describing them as 'racist scum' is disingenuous at best and dangerous midwittery at worst.


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