Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

one armed dwarf · 05-03-2021 04:54PM

Although it's a very uneven game I think Cyberpunk 2077 paints a very cool picture of what a fully committed 'Midgar' set game could have been like in terms of setting. Playing that game on a 30XX card you can really see where they put the work in.

As it is there's not a whole lot of difference as said above between the pre-rendered one in 1997 and the 3D one today. It's the same tiny little areas that you're being funneled through, only now you can look up at a very grainy pre-rendered background that doesn't blend in well at all with the 3D graphics. Which is ironic in itself.

AidoEirE · 06-03-2021 04:19AM

Ff7 a true game I'll always remember and only the starting renake tonight, just beat the scorpion first go.

I've actually dodged this thread for months because didn't want anything spoiled.

I'll leave the major thoughts till I dive in more but 2 things...
Really enjoying the combat side of it and,

The music is so bang on from the original and even better, its so good.

Dave0301 · 06-03-2021 02:17PM

AidoEirE wrote: »

Ff7 a true game I'll always remember and only the starting renake tonight, just beat the scorpion first go.

I've actually dodged this thread for months because didn't want anything spoiled.

I'll leave the major thoughts till I dive in more but 2 things...
Really enjoying the combat side of it and,

The music is so bang on from the original and even better, its so good.

It is a great looking game and the music is very good. If you have nostalgic memories of the original, you will probably enjoy the rest of the game.

Definitely feels padded out in some areas though.

Christy42 · 07-03-2021 12:12AM

RedXIV wrote: »

Agreed, there are plenty of places that just pad for the sake of padding.

There are definitely parts I think that help a lot of the game "growing" up. I like the mission to Jessie's house, I like the idea of walking through sector 8 after the explosion (but the ruin it with flashbacks straight away) and I personally like the idea of "hubs" like sector 7 slums and wall market. But the chapter where you're on the way to reactor 5 is the first point where you really feel they are making you work for this, and then Hojo's lab is ridiculous.

But Zero-Cool has the right idea, replaying on hard mode is much more fun because you spend more time on the fun part.

I'm still not a fan of the ending but I have to say I'm thoroughly enjoying the debate between episodes happening while people try to decipher it. Reminds me of people trying to figure out what the hell was happening in season 1 of Lost

I am hoping that they left it vague so they could make future games based off of the crowd reaction.

I loved seeing people debating avalanche and whether they are good or a menace. A small touch but added a lot of realism to the game. As well as seeing the lower sections of the plate as well (even if that was a bit silly at times). Hard was definitely the most fun. Even if someone has no intention of getting achievements that is highly recommended.

The back story to the minor characters was great as well.

I agree parts dragged a decent bit though at the time I just didn't want the nostalgia to end so didn't mind too much. Not sure on replay ability. Will have to see in the future. I didn't quite 100%. Didn't manage the pull ups and the big nasty optional boss. Granted only tried it once. Failing the pull ups really sapped my motivation for that fight.

I have seen a few (not many) saying they wanted a flat remake which would have been bad. I don't buy games for the graphics and would have had no need to pay 60quid for a game I already own with better graphics.

skerry · 09-03-2021 04:26PM

About 3 hours into this and the first section was great but now I'm in Midgar hunting rats and finding cats and it is sloowwwwww. The pop in is unreal too. Game looks good at first glance but try run through a street with more than 3 NPCs and it all falls apart. Music is awesome. Hoping it picks up again soon

SomeSayKos · 10-03-2021 03:32PM

I downloaded this the other day as it's one of the games included with PS+ but I gave up and uninstalled it after a few hours.
Not my cup of tea at all. I didn't enjoy the combat system to be honest, but I'll admit that's probably just a case of preference given that so many people really seem to enjoy it.

I thought the world felt incredibly artificial though, it actually reminded me of sonic adventure in terms of interacting with NPC's on the streets.

micah537 · 16-03-2021 12:31AM

This is my first time playing a FF game. I like it, it's good, not great but for a free game I'm happy with it.

I need 300% stagger and to complete it in hard for platinum. Does anyone know do you have to start a new game in hard mode or can you do chapter select and choose hard mode to get the trophy?

Dave0301 · 16-03-2021 09:19AM

micah537 wrote: »

This is my first time playing a FF game. I like it, it's good, not great but for a free game I'm happy with it.

I need 300% stagger and to complete it in hard for platinum. Does anyone know do you have to start a new game in hard mode or can you do chapter select and choose hard mode to get the trophy?

Just pick Chapter 1 and play it on hard mode and you will play through the game linearly. You can do them in any order though and it will still count.

300% is easy to get with Tifa and using one of the fights in Chadley's VR.

Vicxas · 16-03-2021 12:24PM

Dave0301 wrote: »

Just pick Chapter 1 and play it on hard mode and you will play through the game linearly. You can do them in any order though and it will still count.

300% is easy to get with Tifa and using one of the fights in Chadley's VR.

300% easiest done on

Fat Chocobo

Dave0301 · 16-03-2021 01:19PM

Vicxas wrote: »

300% easiest done on
Fat Chocobo

It is indeed. I knew it was a fat something :pac:

The Phantom Pain · 16-03-2021 01:33PM

Question for those who have the platinum or at least the dresses trophy: I know some dresses are affected by the amount of side quests you do. Do I need to replay side quests I already did in my first playthrough? For instance in chapter 3 I've already done all the side quests and selected 'sporty' for Tifa. Do I need to now redo all the side quests there and select 'exotic'?

ETA: Also, on chapter select is that little paper icon next to the music disc the manuscript icon?

endainoz · 16-03-2021 01:39PM

I guess this would be fantastic as a free game on ps plus if I hadn't bought it like most here last year. I agree with most of the reviews here too. Too much filler for the sake of filler. Hojos lab damn near broke me, I might go back through it to master the combat but to be honest I'm in no rush. It was impossible to no have high expectations for this, the original is many peoples favorite game of all time. It's certainly not bad, but it's not amazing either.

Dave0301 · 16-03-2021 02:29PM

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Question for those who have the platinum or at least the dresses trophy: I know some dresses are affected by the amount of side quests you do. Do I need to replay side quests I already did in my first playthrough? For instance in chapter 3 I've already done all the side quests and selected 'sporty' for Tifa. Do I need to now redo all the side quests there and select 'exotic'?

ETA: Also, on chapter select is that little paper icon next to the music disc the manuscript icon?

Yes, I think that is the manuscript icon.

I would need to look it up to remember the dresses exactly, but the number of quests you do in the slums relate to the dress Tifa gets.

First play through I did all the quests to get that dress.
Second play through I did a certain number but not all of them.
Third play through I did no quests.

For Aerith, it depends on which quest lines you follow in Wall Market.

Optimal way would be to get one set on the 1st play through, a 2nd set on a hard play through and then use chapter select to tidy it up.

Hope that helps, but it has been a while since I've played it.

sniper_samurai · 16-03-2021 03:03PM

Dave0301 wrote: »

Yes, I think that is the manuscript icon.

I would need to look it up to remember the dresses exactly, but the number of quests you do in the slums relate to the dress Tifa gets.

First play through I did all the quests to get that dress.
Second play through I did a certain number but not all of them.
Third play through I did no quests.

For Aerith, it depends on which quest lines you follow in Wall Market.

Optimal way would be to get one set on the 1st play through, a 2nd set on a hard play through and then use chapter select to tidy it up.

Hope that helps, but it has been a while since I've played it.

For Tifa it depends on the answer you give after doing all side missions in sector 7. There is a default one if you don't do the sidequests so choose the other two to reduce the number of runs required.

For Aerith the number of sidequests completed in sector 5 are the trigger, none, half and all.

Clouds are triggered by completing the two different sidequest lines in Wall Market and not completing either.

The Phantom Pain · 16-03-2021 03:08PM

Thanks, I've figured it out. One other question. I just did chapter 3 via mission select and it continued on to chapter 4 where I had to skip about 5 cut scenes in a row just to be able to get to the menu and seelct 'system'. The problem is my play log is not updating my stats;...it's the same as when I first compelted the game for the first time and I know i have 2 dresses for Tifa and 19/20 battle intel reports completed yet it says 1/3 for Tifa and 18/20 for battle intel. Is that normal?

sniper_samurai · 16-03-2021 03:30PM

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Thanks, I've figured it out. One other question. I just did chapter 3 via mission select and it continued on to chapter 4 where I had to skip about 5 cut scenes in a row just to be able to get to the menu and seelct 'system'. The problem is my play log is not updating my stats;...it's the same as when I first compelted the game for the first time and I know i have 2 dresses for Tifa and 19/20 battle intel reports completed yet it says 1/3 for Tifa and 18/20 for battle intel. Is that normal?

It won't update until you get past Wall Garden and see the dresses.

Once done with chapter 3 you can skip to the sector 5 slums.

The Phantom Pain · 16-03-2021 03:38PM

sniper_samurai wrote: »

It won't update until you get past Wall Garden and see the dresses.

Once done with chapter 3 you can skip to the sector 5 slums.

But what about the battle intel reports?

sniper_samurai · 16-03-2021 03:56PM

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

But what about the battle intel reports?

Iirc you need to do 1-19 to unlock number 20 and it doesn't unlock until near the end.

The Phantom Pain · 16-03-2021 04:20PM

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Iirc you need to do 1-19 to unlock number 20 and it doesn't unlock until near the end.

I mean the play log stats. I've already got number 20 but the problem is the play log is showing I've completed 18/20 when I know I've done 19/20.

sniper_samurai · 16-03-2021 04:28PM

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

I mean the play log stats. I've already got number 20 but the problem is the play log is showing I've completed 18/20 when I know I've done 19/20.

Might want to check to see if there are any incomplete ones in your menu.

The Phantom Pain · 16-03-2021 05:23PM

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Might want to check to see if there are any incomplete ones in your menu.

Yeah, I've already done that and 19 is complete. That's how I know there's something wrong.

Anyone else know why this is happening? Thanks.

The Phantom Pain · 17-03-2021 03:32PM

Ok, got the 9 dresses and the battle intel log corrected itself in later missions so happy days. The dresses trophy should have been a slog but it primarily involves some of the best chapters in the game i.e. 3 and 9. Chapter 8 is still exhausting but is always made better by Aerith's presence.

This is basically what my platinum clean up is shaping up to be: skip, skip skip, run a little bit, skip skip, skip, run a little bit, "oh, this cut scene can only be skipped line by line? Ok", skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, run a little bit, fun combat, skip, skip, skip and that's basically Final Fantasy 7 in a nutshell. It's actually hilarious how little gameplay is in this video game.

There are some cool little things I've noticed upon replay, like how the different dresses are the result of narrative consequences i.e. whether you help civilians/how many side quests you do. I cackled when Aerith came out in the bad dress with the rats under her feet; it was even more funny than the "good" dress with all the fireworks and the crowd oohing and aahing. It's so camp. Love it.

I also appreciate the attention to detail like if you solve a puzzle before the game technically gives you it your A.I. companion will compliment you for 'thinking ahead' which shows thatthe devs made the games with multiple playthroughs in mind and didn't just tack it on to extend playtime.

The Phantom Pain · 20-03-2021 11:00AM

That Bahamut VR boss was annoying. Easy enough to whittle down (albeit exhausting due to being such a sponge) but that megaflare/instant death is cheap. I just about managed it by using a maxed out barrier on everyone but I feel like I spent more time baby sitting everyone than fighting the thing.

For those who have beaten every mission on hard mode do you have any tips? I've heard the Pride and Joy boss fight has a really good item that makes Hard mode easier but having to defeat all the VR bosses before on Hard will probably require me to level up some materia before even attempting it.

one armed dwarf · 20-03-2021 12:46PM

Is it cheap? In FFXIV we just call that an enrage, just means you've got to kill dragon butt more quickly

The main tip I'd have is just use lots of purple materia, in particular the one called 'ATB Assist'. Atb Assist gives a chunk of ATB gauge to other party members when the one with it equipped uses two ATB skills back to back (they can maybe be used 2 seconds apart or so, not sure of the exact timing)

It's good to have on Cloud cause he has a skill called Disorder which changes his stance into punisher and gives him back some ATB, Tifa can do the same with focus strike. That way you're constantly building ATB across the team as well as with other purple materias like ATB stagger, ATB guard, skillmaster etc. Use Barret's overcharge on cooldown if he has less than 2 ATB slots filled, Aerith's tempest also builds up ATB massively if it's fully charged but the enemy has to be stationary for it to work

The Phantom Pain · 20-03-2021 06:35PM

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Is it cheap? In FFXIV we just call that an enrage, just means you've got to kill dragon butt more quickly

The main tip I'd have is just use lots of purple materia, in particular the one called 'ATB Assist'. Atb Assist gives a chunk of ATB gauge to other party members when the one with it equipped uses two ATB skills back to back (they can maybe be used 2 seconds apart or so, not sure of the exact timing)

It's good to have on Cloud cause he has a skill called Disorder which changes his stance into punisher and gives him back some ATB, Tifa can do the same with focus strike. That way you're constantly building ATB across the team as well as with other purple materias like ATB stagger, ATB guard, skillmaster etc. Use Barret's overcharge on cooldown if he has less than 2 ATB slots filled, Aerith's tempest also builds up ATB massively if it's fully charged but the enemy has to be stationary for it to work

I've completed chapter 3 on Hard and basically just spammed Tifa's stagger building abilities but your tips should help me for the trickier battles down the line. Never thought I'd say this but I actually prefer Hard to Normal simply because it forces you to manage your MP properly. Using items almost feels like cheating.

I've only two trophies left now which is the Hard playthrough and Pride and Joy. I've grinded all the Hard VR battles. Would you recommend I beat Pride and Joy first so I can get the Gotterdammerung or should I just wait until I've levelled up more of my materia before attempting it?

one armed dwarf · 20-03-2021 08:27PM

Beating the VR stuff on hard is the hardest thing in the game so there's no real reason to do it to beat the main game.

I also don't think hard mode scales all that high anyway, once you level up a bit some of the boss fights actually end up being squishier for some reason. To the point you will regularly skip stagger gauges cause of it.

Dave0301 · 20-03-2021 09:11PM

Pairing a green materia with an elemental materia is how I went about hard mode for the mobs, saving MP for boss fights.

If you know the main elemental weakness for enemies in the chapter it makes short work of them.

The Phantom Pain · 21-03-2021 12:21PM

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Beating the VR stuff on hard is the hardest thing in the game so there's no real reason to do it to beat the main game.

I also don't think hard mode scales all that high anyway, once you level up a bit some of the boss fights actually end up being squishier for some reason. To the point you will regularly skip stagger gauges cause of it.

It's because I read that the Gotterdammerung is supposed to make Hard a cakewalk. That being said, I've taken your advice and left it and I'm glad I did - I've reached chapter 9 and if anything it's even easier than Normal with all the abilities. :eek: Obviously you can still go down if your materia management isn't good but with the right set up it's a breeze.

Triple slash on Cloud one shots trash mob soldiers and Tifa's staggering abilities are so ridiculous I'm surprised it wasn't patched. Plus the only magic user in my party is Aeirith. The rest of the part can easily get by on abilities alone so I've yet to be short on MP and sometimes I don't even use magic with bosses, not even to heal because I can use the prayer ability which I've maxed out. Steadfast block materia against human bosses just lets me spam ATB and First Strike materia means I have the advantage from the word go for at least 2 of my party members. It's a blast.

My only regret is that I was dependent on items on Normal and never felt the need to level up my MP and HP for Hard mode so I'm doing it now at the cost of a materia slot because I have to use AP up all the time.

The Phantom Pain · 23-03-2021 03:06PM

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills... I've been reading online how "difficult" Hard mode is and I have to wonder if I'm playing a different game...I've just completed chapter 17 and so far Hard mode is a 4/10 at best. In fact, it's almost going a bit too well and I'm worried it's one of those games where the actual Hard mode doesn't come until the final boss which is basically the difficulty of all bosses in the game combined and you've only been softened up for it….

I beat the entire Pride and Joy fight(s) on my first go. Shiva and Chocobo, in particular, were laughable against Tifa's stagger and it also helped that I equipped ice + elemental on Tifa's armour so she couldn't take damage from Shiva. Bahumut was not as bad either (but still annoying). Again, I equipped fire+elemental on Cloud so when Bahumut summoned Irift he just kept healing Cloud and I still had both Cloud and Tifa's limit breaks by the time he came so cleared him almost instantly.

Shout out to one armed dwarf for the tip about leaving this fight until late. I could have never done it without levelling up my HP and MP materia, and hard mode is perfectly manageable without the Gotterdammerung up to that point anyway.

I can count the number of 'game overs' on one hand. Literally. 2 from Hellhouse - and even then it wasn't from the Hellhouse; it was from the cutter and sweeper it summoned - 1 from Reno after some BS where he dodged slightly and I missed my limit break attack, 1 from the second abzu attack because reasons and 1 from Rufus and Darkstar because my MP was at 7.

I thought the Rufus fight was going to be the fight that would make me restart the chapter as I've always had ridiculous amounts of MP for heals. I ended up relying on the Gotterdammerung limit break for attacks whilst using prayer to heal. With steadfast block and lightning+elemental Rufus was constantly filling my ATB bars and health simultaneously.

Anyway, only one trophy away from the plat. Hope chapter 18 goes as well as the other chapters.

Retr0gamer · 23-03-2021 03:34PM

So is it recommended to start this on Hard whenever it comes to PC for an old school difficulty lover?

Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

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