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Bass Reeves · 14-03-2021 11:22PM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Have being watching this mart on line for the last few months, the guys selling the cattle just get on with it and start the stock within a 100 of the value and drive on selling and quick getting the cattle in and out of the ring, some through put in a day. The guy with the northern accent explains what the lot is like and they have a very good camera in place.
In other marts that we watch they start stock at 300 under the value and can take up to 3 to 5 minutes selling a lot with the auctioneer going over and over when the bidding is finished.
We are registered is several marts to buy stock and signed up to the Kerry mart and the next day the account was up and running, sent request to Bandon over 2 weeks ago and have heard nothing back and account is not set up yet.

you have to ring some of the marts to get account sorted its a pain but the request system is not followed up in some marts.

Albert Johnson · 14-03-2021 11:38PM

You've raised a lot of good point's there as usual Bass and I'd definitely agree about the quicker turn around on the AA and HE types compared to holding out for the bigger cheque with the continentals but incurring more cost at the dearest time of year.

Buying stock from the back row is never a good idea imo, your too far away from the action and it's hard to judge the stock from a distance. A good camera view from at home would be superior to standing up the back. I remember a relation of mine coming with me one day to buy a few for himself. Once the sale started I stood ringside and he insisted on going away up the steps. In the evening one of the two bullocks he bought for the day turned out to be 12 month's older than what he intended to buy because he couldn't see the board from where he was standing.

I knew you'd bring up the euro saver menu and I've always maintained that the profit is largely made or lost on the day of purchase. If there too dear the first day your playing catch up from the start. However two cheap cattle at the same price might not both be value and I've often seen a following lessor beast to make the earlier one's look better value. I don't know how lad's value groups of cattle on the camera because there's usually one dodge through the bundle. The rest might seem value but the turkey in the middle could knock the good out of his comrades and it's hard to judge that from the screen.

Murang · 14-03-2021 11:47PM

morphy87 wrote: »

What is this mart doing that it is getting so much cattle?

Maurice calls to the farmers yard and guarantees a price per kg for the cattle be they be cows bullocks heifers or weanlings

tanko · 14-03-2021 11:49PM

Murang wrote: »

Maurice calls to the farmers yard and guarantees a price per kg for the cattle be they be cows bullocks heifers or weanlings

What happens if the cattle don't make that price in the ring, does the seller get the agreed price and where does the money come from to make up the difference?

morphy87 · 15-03-2021 12:08AM

Murang wrote: »

Maurice calls to the farmers yard and guarantees a price per kg for the cattle be they be cows bullocks heifers or weanlings

That would attract people to bring there cattle there then

Albert Johnson · 15-03-2021 12:31AM

tanko wrote: »

What happens if the cattle don't make that price in the ring, does the seller get the agreed price and where does the money come from to make up the difference?

I suppose the aim would be to minimise the occurrences of the above. If you had a good range of buyer's and a reasonable trade week in week out then you should be able to return a fair price to the seller and still have something reasonable to cover your cost's and return a small profit.

I think the biggest misconception people have about marts is about all the money they make. If they see 500 cattle in the yard on a given day and it's for arguments sake €20 a head to sell and €10 to buy then it's €30 (€20+€10) multiplied by 500 meaning €15,000 commission. However if you took off a percentage of no sale's, certain large buyer's and seller's having reduced commission deals and other associated losses it soon reduces down the takings. Generally if there's a loss to be sustained and it can't be pawned on either the buyer or the seller then the mart is left carrying the cost. Every once in a while you'll get stung by a bad payer or event's outside of your control and all those things eat into the bottom line.

jd_12345 · 15-03-2021 12:36AM

tanko wrote: »

What happens if the cattle don't make that price in the ring, does the seller get the agreed price and where does the money come from to make up the difference?

Maurice makes up the difference. Tbf he’s not that overly generous with the price but gives you much more guarantee than Cork Marts anyway. Had bullocks a few years ago during drought and sold a blast back there with a guaranteed price beforehand which included transport. No regrets but nothing spectacular either. Coming from the wrong side of west cork here meaning the cattle were travelling a long way but at the time bandon was a ghost mart with the drought.

richie123 · 15-03-2021 09:32AM

jd_12345 wrote: »

Maurice makes up the difference. Tbf he’s not that overly generous with the price but gives you much more guarantee than Cork Marts anyway. Had bullocks a few years ago during drought and sold a blast back there with a guaranteed price beforehand which included transport. No regrets but nothing spectacular either. Coming from the wrong side of west cork here meaning the cattle were travelling a long way but at the time bandon was a ghost mart with the drought.

What was the point then...whether u get a crap price off Maurice or a crap price in the ring ?
Cattle standing around all day ina mart losing weight and condition and under stress.

Any mart these days with huge numbers going through it and just one ring should be avoided like the plague.
Farmers are gas falling for tricks like that.

Anto_Meath · 15-03-2021 09:50AM

True, I would guess any Mart manager could give you a good guess on the weights of cattle (within 10 kgs) and would know the price per kg that they should make. To be on the safe side for himself, he probably says they would make 5 - 10 cent a kg less than their value, then when they make the actual value everyone is happy. Buyers are happy as they know know they are buying cattle at their lightest from standing around for so long, seller thinks he got more than they were worth.

jd_12345 · 15-03-2021 09:52AM

richie123 wrote: »

What was the point then...whether u get a crap price off Maurice or a crap price in the ring ?
Cattle standing around all day ina mart losing weight and condition and under stress.

Any mart these days with huge numbers going through it and just one ring should be avoided like the plague.
Farmers are gas falling for tricks like that.

Won’t go back there again. It was a drought. We were drawing ration to them left right and Center. We wanted to get rid of them without giving them away. 430kg Angus bullocks €760 is what they made. His guarantee was €725. Won’t be going back there again but I’d have no complaints.

15-03-2021 10:05AM

Mauty is a one man band. He started out with a few sucklers and worked his way up. Incredible credit due to him. He'd well over 60k cattle there last year, you can't keep everyone happy.

Sugarbowl · 15-03-2021 12:34PM

jd_12345 wrote: »

Won’t go back there again. It was a drought. We were drawing ration to them left right and Center. We wanted to get rid of them without giving them away. 430kg Angus bullocks €760 is what they made. His guarantee was €725. Won’t be going back there again but I’d have no complaints.

Did you get the 725 or the 760 then?

jd_12345 · 15-03-2021 01:30PM

€760 but paid for the transport and commission so probably ended up around €740 ish

lab man · 15-03-2021 01:38PM

jd_12345 wrote: »

€760 but paid for the transport and commission so probably ended up around €740 ish

You couldn't argue with that

Dozer1 · 15-03-2021 02:03PM

Will Mauty be a victim of his own success in the numbers he's getting?
mart there 3 to 4 days a week, weanling sales run late and huge numbers on Friday can't imagine its easy keep all the staff happy there, the office is like the inside of a Ford Ka with the staff packed in there.

I've not sold there but bought a few times and no complaints but is he running himself into the ground?

50HX · 15-03-2021 09:13PM

What I see happening more and more is he's loosing the local sellers and by that I mean a 30-40 mile radius

Lads from Cork and limerick are the ones with early lot numbers hence late nite weanling sales for the rest of us

I know a guy from milford side with top weanlings, every year i meet him there he's bulls are sold at 7pm and heifers at 10, out the gate

As long as he keeps bringing northern buyers the sellers will keep coming

Bass Reeves · 16-03-2021 12:17AM

50HX wrote: »

What I see happening more and more is he's loosing the local sellers and by that I mean a 30-40 mile radius

Lads from Cork and limerick are the ones with early lot numbers hence late nite weanling sales for the rest of us

I know a guy from milford side with top weanlings, every year i meet him there he's bulls are sold at 7pm and heifers at 10, out the gate

As long as he keeps bringing northern buyers the sellers will keep coming

I can see the conflict if cattle arriving by truck from a distance are getting priority other lads have to be losing. If one lads cattle are in at 12.30 pm and sold at 5-6pm there is a lot of cattle standing in the yard. I have seen cattle sold late and a lot of them have been standing a while

kk.man · 17-03-2021 10:47PM

What are strong fr yearlings making 350 - 400kgs in the Marts have an elderly neighbour wants a few.

Bass Reeves · 17-03-2021 10:55PM

kk.man wrote: »

What are strong fr yearlings making 350 - 400kgs in the Marts have an elderly neighbour wants a few.

1.65-1.85/kg

kk.man · 17-03-2021 10:56PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

1.65-1.85/kg

Thanks Bass

orm0nd · 17-03-2021 10:58PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

1.65-1.85/kg

I refused 1.70/kg ex shed, for br fr, they would be all north of 400 kgs.

18-03-2021 11:15AM

kk.man wrote: »

What are strong fr yearlings making 350 - 400kgs in the Marts have an elderly neighbour wants a few.

170 in kanturk last tue. You'd have a nice fr from that town.

patsy_mccabe · 18-03-2021 01:24PM

€ 2,440 for cow and calf.
Bass Reeves clicking away like mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3JbOXrynrY

18-03-2021 02:04PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€ 2,440 for cow and calf.
Bass Reeves clicking away like mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3JbOXrynrY

Imagine what they'd have made if Mathew wasn't selling!!

Sacrolyte · 18-03-2021 04:00PM

I see a lot of thin cull cows been sold lately for a price that’s usually the same price for a fleshed cow. How are the buyers making a profit on those.
I’m not complaining as I have some to sell.

Jb1989 · 18-03-2021 05:33PM

Sacrolyte wrote: »

I see a lot of thin cull cows been sold lately for a price that’s usually the same price for a fleshed cow. How are the buyers making a profit on those.
I’m not complaining as I have some to sell.

Feeders buying for grass.
They soon have their requirements stocked up on so Nows your chance.

Dunedin · 18-03-2021 05:59PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€ 2,440 for cow and calf.
Bass Reeves clicking away like mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3JbOXrynrY

I’d say Bass was washing his hair during that. Smashing calf and both very quiet animals. Do you know how old was cow?

patsy_mccabe · 18-03-2021 06:21PM

Dunedin wrote: »

I’d say Bass was washing his hair during that. Smashing calf and both very quiet animals. Do you know how old was cow?

No, only saw it today. Catalogue of prices from ennis mart would be gone by now.

Fine Day · 18-03-2021 06:25PM

I have been keeping a close watch on the sales online over the last few days. Trade seems to be on fire. Big stores making good money too. Suppose there better value per kg than younger/lighter stock.

kk.man · 18-03-2021 08:45PM

Theheff wrote: »

I have been keeping a close watch on the sales online over the last few days. Trade seems to be on fire. Big stores making good money too. Suppose there better value per kg than younger/lighter stock.

I think that is a fair sumation of the trade. My theory is lads are caught with Beam are after younger stock.

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