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Mart Price Tracker

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Seeing as there is a Beef Price Tracker thread would there be any interest in a similar thread for prices in the ring.Lads buying or selling might be able to give prices they got or gave for stock.

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Bass Reeves

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Have being watching this mart on line for the last few months, the guys selling the cattle just get on with it and start the stock within a 100 of the value and drive on selling and quick getting the cattle in and out of the ring, some through put in a day. The guy with the northern accent explains what the lot is like and they have a very good camera in place.
In other marts that we watch they start stock at 300 under the value and can take up to 3 to 5 minutes selling a lot with the auctioneer going over and over when the bidding is finished.
We are registered is several marts to buy stock and signed up to the Kerry mart and the next day the account was up and running, sent request to Bandon over 2 weeks ago and have heard nothing back and account is not set up yet.

you have to ring some of the marts to get account sorted its a pain but the request system is not followed up in some marts.

Albert Johnson

You've raised a lot of good point's there as usual Bass and I'd definitely agree about the quicker turn around on the AA and HE types compared to holding out for the bigger cheque with the continentals but incurring more cost at the dearest time of year.

Buying stock from the back row is never a good idea imo, your too far away from the action and it's hard to judge the stock from a distance. A good camera view from at home would be superior to standing up the back. I remember a relation of mine coming with me one day to buy a few for himself. Once the sale started I stood ringside and he insisted on going away up the steps. In the evening one of the two bullocks he bought for the day turned out to be 12 month's older than what he intended to buy because he couldn't see the board from where he was standing.

I knew you'd bring up the euro saver menu and I've always maintained that the profit is largely made or lost on the day of purchase. If there too dear the first day your playing catch up from the start. However two cheap cattle at the same price might not both be value and I've often seen a following lessor beast to make the earlier one's look better value. I don't know how lad's value groups of cattle on the camera because there's usually one dodge through the bundle. The rest might seem value but the turkey in the middle could knock the good out of his comrades and it's hard to judge that from the screen.

Murang

morphy87 wrote: »

What is this mart doing that it is getting so much cattle?

Maurice calls to the farmers yard and guarantees a price per kg for the cattle be they be cows bullocks heifers or weanlings

tanko

Murang wrote: »

Maurice calls to the farmers yard and guarantees a price per kg for the cattle be they be cows bullocks heifers or weanlings

What happens if the cattle don't make that price in the ring, does the seller get the agreed price and where does the money come from to make up the difference?

morphy87

Murang wrote: »

Maurice calls to the farmers yard and guarantees a price per kg for the cattle be they be cows bullocks heifers or weanlings

That would attract people to bring there cattle there then

Albert Johnson

tanko wrote: »

What happens if the cattle don't make that price in the ring, does the seller get the agreed price and where does the money come from to make up the difference?

I suppose the aim would be to minimise the occurrences of the above. If you had a good range of buyer's and a reasonable trade week in week out then you should be able to return a fair price to the seller and still have something reasonable to cover your cost's and return a small profit.

I think the biggest misconception people have about marts is about all the money they make. If they see 500 cattle in the yard on a given day and it's for arguments sake €20 a head to sell and €10 to buy then it's €30 (€20+€10) multiplied by 500 meaning €15,000 commission. However if you took off a percentage of no sale's, certain large buyer's and seller's having reduced commission deals and other associated losses it soon reduces down the takings. Generally if there's a loss to be sustained and it can't be pawned on either the buyer or the seller then the mart is left carrying the cost. Every once in a while you'll get stung by a bad payer or event's outside of your control and all those things eat into the bottom line.

jd_12345

tanko wrote: »

What happens if the cattle don't make that price in the ring, does the seller get the agreed price and where does the money come from to make up the difference?

Maurice makes up the difference. Tbf he’s not that overly generous with the price but gives you much more guarantee than Cork Marts anyway. Had bullocks a few years ago during drought and sold a blast back there with a guaranteed price beforehand which included transport. No regrets but nothing spectacular either. Coming from the wrong side of west cork here meaning the cattle were travelling a long way but at the time bandon was a ghost mart with the drought.

richie123

jd_12345 wrote: »

Maurice makes up the difference. Tbf he’s not that overly generous with the price but gives you much more guarantee than Cork Marts anyway. Had bullocks a few years ago during drought and sold a blast back there with a guaranteed price beforehand which included transport. No regrets but nothing spectacular either. Coming from the wrong side of west cork here meaning the cattle were travelling a long way but at the time bandon was a ghost mart with the drought.

What was the point then...whether u get a crap price off Maurice or a crap price in the ring ?
Cattle standing around all day ina mart losing weight and condition and under stress.

Any mart these days with huge numbers going through it and just one ring should be avoided like the plague.
Farmers are gas falling for tricks like that.

Anto_Meath

True, I would guess any Mart manager could give you a good guess on the weights of cattle (within 10 kgs) and would know the price per kg that they should make. To be on the safe side for himself, he probably says they would make 5 - 10 cent a kg less than their value, then when they make the actual value everyone is happy. Buyers are happy as they know know they are buying cattle at their lightest from standing around for so long, seller thinks he got more than they were worth.

jd_12345

richie123 wrote: »

What was the point then...whether u get a crap price off Maurice or a crap price in the ring ?
Cattle standing around all day ina mart losing weight and condition and under stress.

Any mart these days with huge numbers going through it and just one ring should be avoided like the plague.
Farmers are gas falling for tricks like that.

Won’t go back there again. It was a drought. We were drawing ration to them left right and Center. We wanted to get rid of them without giving them away. 430kg Angus bullocks €760 is what they made. His guarantee was €725. Won’t be going back there again but I’d have no complaints.

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Mauty is a one man band. He started out with a few sucklers and worked his way up. Incredible credit due to him. He'd well over 60k cattle there last year, you can't keep everyone happy.

Sugarbowl

jd_12345 wrote: »

Won’t go back there again. It was a drought. We were drawing ration to them left right and Center. We wanted to get rid of them without giving them away. 430kg Angus bullocks €760 is what they made. His guarantee was €725. Won’t be going back there again but I’d have no complaints.

Did you get the 725 or the 760 then?

jd_12345

€760 but paid for the transport and commission so probably ended up around €740 ish

lab man

jd_12345 wrote: »

€760 but paid for the transport and commission so probably ended up around €740 ish

You couldn't argue with that

Dozer1

Will Mauty be a victim of his own success in the numbers he's getting?
mart there 3 to 4 days a week, weanling sales run late and huge numbers on Friday can't imagine its easy keep all the staff happy there, the office is like the inside of a Ford Ka with the staff packed in there.

I've not sold there but bought a few times and no complaints but is he running himself into the ground?

50HX

What I see happening more and more is he's loosing the local sellers and by that I mean a 30-40 mile radius

Lads from Cork and limerick are the ones with early lot numbers hence late nite weanling sales for the rest of us

I know a guy from milford side with top weanlings, every year i meet him there he's bulls are sold at 7pm and heifers at 10, out the gate

As long as he keeps bringing northern buyers the sellers will keep coming

Bass Reeves

50HX wrote: »

What I see happening more and more is he's loosing the local sellers and by that I mean a 30-40 mile radius

Lads from Cork and limerick are the ones with early lot numbers hence late nite weanling sales for the rest of us

I know a guy from milford side with top weanlings, every year i meet him there he's bulls are sold at 7pm and heifers at 10, out the gate

As long as he keeps bringing northern buyers the sellers will keep coming

I can see the conflict if cattle arriving by truck from a distance are getting priority other lads have to be losing. If one lads cattle are in at 12.30 pm and sold at 5-6pm there is a lot of cattle standing in the yard. I have seen cattle sold late and a lot of them have been standing a while

kk.man

What are strong fr yearlings making 350 - 400kgs in the Marts have an elderly neighbour wants a few.

Bass Reeves

kk.man wrote: »

What are strong fr yearlings making 350 - 400kgs in the Marts have an elderly neighbour wants a few.

1.65-1.85/kg

kk.man

Bass Reeves wrote: »

1.65-1.85/kg

Thanks Bass

orm0nd

Bass Reeves wrote: »

1.65-1.85/kg

I refused 1.70/kg ex shed, for br fr, they would be all north of 400 kgs.

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kk.man wrote: »

What are strong fr yearlings making 350 - 400kgs in the Marts have an elderly neighbour wants a few.

170 in kanturk last tue. You'd have a nice fr from that town.

patsy_mccabe

€ 2,440 for cow and calf.
Bass Reeves clicking away like mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3JbOXrynrY

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patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€ 2,440 for cow and calf.
Bass Reeves clicking away like mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3JbOXrynrY

Imagine what they'd have made if Mathew wasn't selling!!

Sacrolyte

I see a lot of thin cull cows been sold lately for a price that’s usually the same price for a fleshed cow. How are the buyers making a profit on those.
I’m not complaining as I have some to sell.

Jb1989

Sacrolyte wrote: »

I see a lot of thin cull cows been sold lately for a price that’s usually the same price for a fleshed cow. How are the buyers making a profit on those.
I’m not complaining as I have some to sell.

Feeders buying for grass.
They soon have their requirements stocked up on so Nows your chance.

Dunedin

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€ 2,440 for cow and calf.
Bass Reeves clicking away like mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3JbOXrynrY

I’d say Bass was washing his hair during that. Smashing calf and both very quiet animals. Do you know how old was cow?

patsy_mccabe

Dunedin wrote: »

I’d say Bass was washing his hair during that. Smashing calf and both very quiet animals. Do you know how old was cow?

No, only saw it today. Catalogue of prices from ennis mart would be gone by now.

Fine Day

I have been keeping a close watch on the sales online over the last few days. Trade seems to be on fire. Big stores making good money too. Suppose there better value per kg than younger/lighter stock.

kk.man

Theheff wrote: »

I have been keeping a close watch on the sales online over the last few days. Trade seems to be on fire. Big stores making good money too. Suppose there better value per kg than younger/lighter stock.

I think that is a fair sumation of the trade. My theory is lads are caught with Beam are after younger stock.