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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #5642
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,236 ✭✭✭prunudo


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    You could make the same argument for Wicklow, yet they have for a long time
    one of the lowest case numbers in the country.

    Saying that though, something happened midweek this week, bumped up to 25 one day. Back to less than 5 today but something to keep an eye on.
    Donegal seems to be slipping a bit too.


  • #5643
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,086 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Tazz T wrote: »
    Okay then. We'll just shut down huge swathes of Irish businesses and industries that have done nothing wrong and let Astrazenaca to do what it wants, and not so much as penalise it for not fulfilling legally binding contractual obligations.

    Yes, it’s the real world. There is little the Irish government can do to punish AZ and even if they do something there could be consequences to our reputation and future investments in the country could be put at risk.


  • #5644
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    prunudo wrote: »
    The government seem to be reluctant to go down this route again but I wonder is this also causing a slipping in adherence to the rules. Why would you bother being a good citizen in your county of 0-5 daily cases when you're treated the same as someone in a county of 50-100 cases (obviously taking population differences into account).

    They should definitely be looking at relaxing restrictions more in the counties with low infection rates. I don't know why they think this approach didn't work before. What didn't work was locking down Dublin and leaving the rest of the country open (see September/October). That was never going to work because there is so much movement in and out of Dublin. But it could work very well for, say, Kerry, Cork etc. Perhaps provincial restrictions should be considered (open in Munster, leave Leinster locked down).


  • #5645
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    This one ?

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1370790376534118410?s=19

    That's the one thanks. I didn't realise he was still doing them. He just wasn't quoted on the thread.


  • #5646
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,997 ✭✭✭Russman


    prunudo wrote: »
    The government seem to be reluctant to go down this route again but I wonder is this also causing a slipping in adherence to the rules. Why would you bother being a good citizen in your county of 0-5 daily cases when you're treated the same as someone in a county of 50-100 cases (obviously taking population differences into account).

    I genuinely think Ireland, and the individual counties, are just too small to go for regional lockdowns, sure you can be almost anywhere within 3 hours. There are too many settlements (from individual houses to towns and villages) where the nearest shop/garage/whatever is just over the nearby county border, and the next nearest is miles away. We don’t have the manpower to enforce county borders imho.


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  • #5647
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,506 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    They really need to give us some idea of where these cases are coming from

    Yet another example of poor communication and treating the populace like 5 year old children


  • #5648
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,236 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Russman wrote: »
    I genuinely think Ireland, and the individual counties, are just too small to go for regional lockdowns, sure you can be almost anywhere within 3 hours. There are too many settlements (from individual houses to towns and villages) where the nearest shop/garage/whatever is just over the nearby county border, and the next nearest is miles away. We don’t have the manpower to enforce county borders imho.

    Yes, from a geographical point of view you're probably right. Problem is, for the last year counties have been pitted against eachother on a daily basis, for example Kerry bottom of the table where as Donegal had been top yet we're all under the same restrictions.
    So after a year of restrictions people will start questioning why they shouldn't bend some of the rules if they perceive the risk to be low in their community.


  • #5649
    Sanjuro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Worth looking at the week as a whole rather than individual day numbers.


  • #5650
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    39 cases in Donegal today. 2 and a half months in to lockdown its mad.


  • #5651
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    Worth looking at the week as a whole rather than individual day numbers.
    People are a little concerned that these levels will not come down enough for April 5 even though hospitalisations should, for the government to signal any change in restrictions.


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  • #5652
    aziz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭aziz


    Deeper Blue wrote: »
    They really need to give us some idea of where these cases are coming from

    Yet another example of poor communication and treating the populace like 5 year old children

    We will just be told that they are “household “ cases again


  • #5653
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just for the craic, listened to half an hour of Gerry Killeen on Dunphy’s podcast. 4th wave, schools should close, hotel quarantine for everything that moves, etc etc. It’s entertainment if nothing else

    Also, Eamon Dunphy sounds like he is getting dementia. He is almost nonsensical at time. Did he have a stroke or something that I have missed???


  • #5654
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,506 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Just for the craic, listened to half an hour of Gerry Killeen on Dunphy’s podcast. 4th wave, schools should close, hotel quarantine for everything that moves, etc etc. It’s entertainment if nothing else

    Also, Eamon Dunphy sounds like he is getting dementia. He is almost nonsensical at time. Did he have a stroke or something that I have missed???

    Eamo is loving the misery, must be his RTE DNA


  • #5655
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,063 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    As below, marked increase in Kildare last few days

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1370790376534118410?s=19

    It's kind of impressive to be worse now than you were on December 29th. No idea how they've managed that


  • #5656
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Donegal complete sh*te again today with 39. More than all other border counties combined.

    Well done Donegal.


  • #5657
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    Worth looking at the week as a whole rather than individual day numbers.
    We all know in plenty of advance what the shape of Icu and hospital movement should be. ICU and hospital are great but we all knew it was going to happen. The cases flattening (1% fall is concerning).

    The average time from positive test to hospitalisation is 7 to 10 days. The average hospital spell is about 17 days iirc. So today's discharges relate to 14 February or so when we had 1000 cases or so and today's admissions relate to around 6 March when we had 540 cases.

    Cases flattening suggest hospitals will flatten in a few weeks.

    I celebrated the current falls in hospital numbers a few weeks ago when I saw the cases come down.


  • #5658
    noplacehere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭noplacehere


    Anecdotal but I’m living in Kildare. There’s at least one outbreak in a now closed creche in Naas, there seem to be a lot of schools with cases. And there is massive movement of people. I was driving through Maynooth and it was absolutely insane today, traffic everyone and that carton park up near Tesco was jammed.


  • #5659
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Non-essential retail shop next to my (supposedly essential) workplace has staff in restocking (normal), but is also conducting "private" sales (ie someone rings then can come in and go shopping by appointment).


    Seems fairly safe and I can't really blame a company for doing it tbh


  • #5660
    JP100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    The elephant in the room in all of this is and always has been is schools. The environment in which we're regularly told that the virus needs to thrive is the kind of environment that very much inhabits school life.


  • #5661
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    People can only take so much lockdown before eventually they decide to live again.

    Lockdown is not effective if it lasts 7 months with just a 3 week slight break at Christmas. Not to mention NPHET are not helping saying just another 5 months.

    Stick with a failed policy and prepare to fail


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  • #5662
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,378 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Who are organizing the protests for St Patrick's Day and where are they taking place?


  • #5663
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    After a 3 day rise at least today's 7 day average of 526 stays the same as yesterday. Small progress on last Saturday when it was 537. Hopefully just a blip and we have bigger decrease next Saturday.

    7-day average in reported deaths is 16. 74 of 116 reported deaths this week happened in January or February.


  • #5664
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    prunudo wrote: »
    The government seem to be reluctant to go down this route again but I wonder is this also causing a slipping in adherence to the rules. Why would you bother being a good citizen in your county of 0-5 daily cases when you're treated the same as someone in a county of 50-100 cases (obviously taking population differences into account).

    Agreed. Things change quickly but with 52 cases per 100,000 right now here in Cork there is no justification for not opening up some things on 5 April. This won't be lost on MM I'd imagine!


  • #5665
    Morries Wigs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 199 ✭✭Morries Wigs


    keep the high number counties locked down and free the rest of us absolute nonsense -restrict to your county


  • #5666
    Morries Wigs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 199 ✭✭Morries Wigs


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    Agreed. Things change quickly but with 52 cases per 100,000 right now here in Cork there is no justification for not opening up some things on 5 April. This won't be lost on MM I'd imagine!

    course it will -all he does is bow down to nphet


  • #5667
    mightyreds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    noplacehere wrote: »
    Anecdotal but I’m living in Kildare. There’s at least one outbreak in a now closed creche in Naas, there seem to be a lot of schools with cases. And there is massive movement of people. I was driving through Maynooth and it was absolutely insane today, traffic everyone and that carton park up near Tesco was jammed.

    I know of an outbreak from a creche in kildare too that has led to about 20 cases plus the outbreak then got from the creche to home then into a primary school by the person who works in the creche passing it to the child at home.
    I'm friends with all the people involved and the turn around is just too slow, the outbreak in the creche happened last Friday, my friend found out she was a close contact Monday then wait on results till Tuesday, her close contacts were advised the next day.
    This went on through about 3 people by the time each had been informed and tested their husbands had been in to work and then the cycle starts with his work contacts. Luckily alot of the passing contacts work etc seem to be negative.


  • #5668
    Rambling Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Rambling Man


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Interesting. Only a hunch on my part given the numbers reported from Kildare and Meath last few days and each time it's happened in the past it was those settings.

    All the same there is some sort of mass testing going on as GP data isn't backing any increase

    RTE reporting that doctors saying referrals are up.


  • #5669
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,793 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Indeed we did, 2 or 3 weeks ago it looked like it was stalling a little and then the decrease accelerated again the following week & last week.

    Thought this was interesting

    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1370732682209026051?s=19

    Sure if you're free to draw the line yourself you'll "prove" any contention


  • #5670
    alentejo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭alentejo


    It just seems with the English variant, Level 5 seems to have the same effect as level 3 on the original Covid variant.

    More grim times ahead!


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  • #5671
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    alentejo wrote: »
    It just seems with the English variant, Level 5 seems to have the same effect as level 3 on the original Covid variant.

    More grim times ahead!

    Yet people were up in arms when the term Chinese virus was coined. :pac:


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