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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #5402
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    marno21 wrote: »
    This is no longer an Ireland problem, it's a regional one, and a Leinster one at that. Divide the country into a league table, top half of incidence rates and bottom half. Of the top 13 counties, 9 of them are Leinster counties. The top half (top 13) contains 75% of Leinster counties, 40% (2/5) of Connacht, 33% (1/3) of Ulster and 16% (1/6) of Munster.

    The incidence rate is now almost 11 times higher in Longford than it is in Leitrim. Leitrim would currently be able to sustain itself under Level 2 according to how it worked last summer. Longford is on a different planet numbers wise.

    The source of these regional discrepancies needs to be investigated rather than the usual palaver on television. Why is Level 5 in Cork, Kilkenny and Leitrim giving us conditions for Level 2 and why is Level 5 in Longford creating 11 times as much virus as those counties??

    The gubberment really seems dead set against regionalising restrictions, no doubt fearing a particular backlash, esp if it were Dublin and surrounding counties that got held to level 5 when the rest dropped to maybe 3 before they moved to 4.


  • #5403
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Yet a lot of posters seem to think it's unique to Ireland and the rest of the world are getting pissed in pubs and nightclubs.

    I'd at least be able to get a haircut in the majority of countries around the world.


  • #5404
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,043 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    The gubberment really seems dead set against regionalising restrictions, no doubt fearing a particular backlash, esp if it were Dublin and surrounding counties that got held to level 5 when the rest dropped to maybe 3 before they moved to 4.

    There’s definitely a strong argument for Cork/ kerry to move to level 3. As long as county boundaries are enforced


  • #5405
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Everybody has a back of a Fag Box theory and its usually that thing that they are idioligically opposed to.

    NPHET: Alcohol
    Left Wingers: Right Wing protests, Big Business, lack of public services
    Right Wingers: Lockdowns themselves, BLM protests, Johnny Foreigner
    Vegetarians: Meat Packing Plants
    Teenagers: Schools
    Unions: People working
    Media: The despised general public
    Politicians: Those people who are on the other side of the political spectrum.


    Nobody has any idea, folks. Theres no one answer.


  • #5406
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Yet a lot of posters seem to think it's unique to Ireland and the rest of the world are getting pissed in pubs and nightclubs.

    Pissed in pubs, are you for ****en real. We can't even go past 5km from our house. So other countries that had lesser restrictions are tightening up slightly it somehow justifys months and months of the harshest restrictions we have. Are you for ****en real.


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  • #5407
    poppers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭poppers


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    We will never learn in this country

    There is no way the vaccines will out perform cases because Schools are open and we do not have the vaccine supplies.

    It really is as simple as that

    They can hide statistics, put it down to "household outbreaks" and other such bollix all they want

    For a year now they've being loathe to admit almost anything about Schools (whatever was said yesterday at the briefing was just a fraction of the situation) and they've dragged their feet on the airports to the point it's laughable

    A fcuking year

    Every time there's a glimmer of hope and great case numbers they do something that completely balls it up. In December they decided we "deserved a Christmas" during a once in fcuking century pandemic

    People are now in their backup reserve of "digging deep" inside themselves to keep going mentally, physically and spiritually in this country

    This is not "cases plateauing", it's the start of another rise and with a more lethal variant too

    What is more important? Schools open or a society that's literally falling apart?




    Sound over the top? Let's see where we are in 4 weeks if they stay open and talk to me then

    We. Have. Had. Enough

    13 counties had less than 10 cases today 7 more 20 or less. how are the schools in those counties not causing a problem.
    Cork 20 today hasthe 3rd lowest rate in the country/100k people


  • #5408
    Klonker
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    Don't know if people noticed but the death age range was 41 - 83 with median age 67. That must be lowest median age of daily deaths yet. Usually its around 82 - 84. Another sign of just how successful the vaccines are. RIP to all those who died.


  • #5409
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    What am I missing here, 80-90% of the deaths have been the over 75's, they will soon be all vaccinated. If we are still seeing high mortality rates, it means the vaccine is not working.


  • #5410
    Enter name here
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Enter name here


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Everybody has a back of a Fag Box theory and its usually that thing that they are idioligically opposed to.

    NPHET: Alcohol
    Left Wingers: Right Wing protests, Big Business, lack of public services
    Right Wingers: Lockdowns themselves, BLM protests, Johnny Foreigner
    Vegetarians: Meat Packing Plants
    Teenagers: Schools
    Unions: People working
    Media: The despised general public
    Politicians: Those people who are on the other side of the political spectrum.


    Nobody has any idea, folks. Theres no one answer.

    Funny never seen anyone referring to BLM protests as right wing. Could you get any more left wing than a BLM protest!!!


  • #5411
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What am I missing here, 80-90% of the deaths have been the over 75's, they will soon be all vaccinated. If we are still seeing high mortality rates, it means the vaccine is not working.

    92% of all deaths are in patients over the age of 65-years.

    The problem then becomes definitional.

    Namely, once you vaccinate the over-65s, NPHET, like some iatric grim reaper, will creep onto some TV broadcast - particularly Philip Nolan - announcing that the under-65 population, given their sheer number, are now classified as the "at risk" group.

    Hospitals could become overwhelmed etc. - you get the message.

    NPHETs role in this is far from over.


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  • #5412
    pauldry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,439 ✭✭✭pauldry


    The definition of insanity.

    Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    Level 5
    5k limit...everyone's travelling again
    No household visits....house parties again
    Funerals 10 people....300
    Weddings limited....not in Salthill

    However in many counties that are doing very well with numbers there is no benefit. They are treated the same as Dublin and Kildare where the bulk of cases are.

    Rural Ireland should be at least in Level 4 now. Theres no motivation anymore. Most elderly have been vaccinated so everyone else for themselves now.


  • #5413
    billyhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,634 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    pauldry wrote: »
    The definition of insanity.

    Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    Level 5
    5k limit...everyone's travelling again
    No household visits....house parties again
    Funerals 10 people....300
    Weddings limited....not in Salthill

    However in many counties that are doing very well with numbers there is no benefit. They are treated the same as Dublin and Kildare where the bulk of cases are.

    Rural Ireland should be at least in Level 4 now. Theres no motivation anymore. Most elderly have been vaccinated so everyone else for themselves now.

    How are most elderly vaccinated? There still in the 80 to 85 cohort.


  • #5414
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    92% of all deaths are in patients over the age of 65-years.

    The problem then becomes definitional.

    Namely, once you vaccinate the over-65s, NPHET, like some iatric grim reaper, will creep onto some TV broadcast, announcing that the under-65 population, given their sheer number, are now classified as the "at risk" group.

    Hospitals could become overwhelmed etc. - you get the message.

    NPHETs role in this is far from over.

    Exactly what I was thinking.
    They will be deeply concerned the average age of deaths will be under 65, all while ignoring the fact that the actual number of deaths would be extremely low (compared to before)


  • #5415
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    poppers wrote: »
    13 counties had less than 10 cases today 7 more 20 or less. how are the schools in those counties not causing a problem.
    Cork 20 today hasthe 3rd lowest rate in the country/100k people


    Can you honestly - one year into this - not see the difference between the density of Dublin and Cork? And the sheer amount of Schools in the capital?

    I agree with whoever above said the well performing regions and counties deserve Level 3. Cork and Kerry included

    And I say that as a Dubliner knowing full well we've no chance of that till probably July at this stage


  • #5416
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Exactly what I was thinking.
    They will be deeply concerned the average age of deaths will be under 65, all while ignoring the fact that the actual number of deaths would be extremely low (compared to before)

    Very true.

    You can almost imagine at the Thursday broadcast something that resembles the following, September 30, 2021:

    "Today, we are reporting 47,615 cases of COVID-19. We are also reporting 9 additional deaths, bringing the total to 4,915.

    The age range of deaths is between 47 and 64. We are deeply concerned about the prevalence and spread of infection in younger age groups. This may be due to increase socialization across the country as a result of widespread vaccination.

    We need to be clear. These levels of infection and death are unsustainable. Hospital capacity is already increasing and measures may need to be taken to mitigate the spread of the virus."


  • #5417
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Anyone know Where’s fergal bowers lately


  • #5418
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Anyone know Where’s fergal bowers lately

    He's at home, preparing to watch the Late Late Show.

    Why?


  • #5419
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    He's at home, preparing to watch the Late Late Show.

    Why?

    Ha ha very funny

    He hasn’t been on the news in a while now


  • #5420
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Ha ha very funny

    He hasn’t been on the news in a while now

    Probably because he's too rational and breaks down the information and portrays it through a neutral standpoint.
    Not like George Lee trying to drag up **** and doom and gloom every opportunity.


  • #5421
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    On Sunday one year ago i developed my covid symptom of a cough following a work trip to Spain. It took 5 days to get tested and a further three weeks to get my result.


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  • #5422
    poppers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭poppers


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Can you honestly - one year into this - not see the difference between the density of Dublin and Cork? And the sheer amount of Schools in the capital?

    I agree with whoever above said the well performing regions and counties deserve Level 3. Cork and Kerry included

    And I say that as a Dubliner knowing full well we've no chance of that till probably July at this stage

    the figures in dublin have not changed much over the last month between 200 and 300 case each day usually around 250 mark so i dont think its the schools open for the last 2 weeks that has caused the spike in the overall numbers.
    its local out breaks in ceratin counties that are causing a jump.
    see below for figures for last month
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1366474296214908928/photo/1
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1370434297639882756/photo/1


  • #5423
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Strange, he’s tweeting away as normal but seems to have been unceremoniously “given the boot” off RTÉ news in favour of George.


  • #5424
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Akabusi wrote: »
    On Sunday one year ago i developed my covid symptom of a cough following a work trip to Spain. It took 5 days to get tested and a further three weeks to get my result.

    You recovered I assume?


  • #5425
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Strange, he’s tweeting away as normal but seems to have been “given the boot” off RTÉ news in favour of George.

    That says more about RTE than anything else


  • #5426
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Akabusi wrote: »
    On Sunday one year ago i developed my covid symptom of a cough following a work trip to Spain. It took 5 days to get tested and a further three weeks to get my result.

    What is the relevance of this post
    Are you still unwell?
    Have you had long term effects?


  • #5427
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You recovered I assume?

    Yeah was just the cough I had.


  • #5428
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    What is the relevance of this post
    Are you still unwell?
    Have you had long term effects?

    Just there was some posts looking back at things a year ago and got me.thinking about my situation. No real relevance other than maybe show where we were in terms of testing when this started.


  • #5429
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    What is the relevance of this post
    Are you still unwell?
    Have you had long term effects?

    I suppose it demonstrates how things have changed. My son was informed he was a close contact on Tuesday morning. Tested Tuesday evening, negative test result Wednesday.
    Oh and Covid is not the death sentence some would have you believe or that a lung transplant is guaranteed.


  • #5430
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,122 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    2.3% fully vaccinated in Ireland.

    2.1% fully vaccinated in the UK.

    Mad.


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  • #5431
    spookwoman
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    Sorry about delay county numbers slow to come up tonight

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