New beep scheme

lab man · 10-03-2021 4:39pm #1

Hi lads any word on new scheme

Magic A · 10-03-2021 8:47pm

lab man wrote: »

Hi lads any word on new scheme

Heard from my ag advisor that it would be opened for signing up this Friday

lab man · 10-03-2021 10:12pm

Magic A wrote: »

Heard from my ag advisor that it would be opened for signing up this Friday

Thanks last year was my first year and didnt realise about the 300 day limit I done mine and most were 305 to 325 days old when I done it .

893bet · 10-03-2021 10:35pm

lab man wrote: »

Thanks last year was my first year and didnt realise about the 300 day limit I done mine and most were 305 to 325 days old when I done it .

Did you not get paid for the ones over 300 days old?

lab man · 10-03-2021 11:04pm

893bet wrote: »

Did you not get paid for the ones over 300 days old?

No lost 1300 over it I calve in autumn so have to be on the ball as we are very busy in summer

893bet · 10-03-2021 11:14pm

lab man wrote: »

No lost 1300 over it I calve in autumn so have to be on the ball as we are very busy in summer

Are you sure?

I don’t think that was part of the terms and conditions and I just looked again.

The conditions were born between x date and y date and the calf should be unweaned. I recall in the report they issued they may exclude calves from the report over and under a certain age so not to skew results but I thought you were paid for all.

tellmeabit · 11-03-2021 12:25am

893bet wrote: »

Are you sure?

I don’t think that was part of the terms and conditions and I just looked again.

The conditions were born between x date and y date and the calf should be unweaned. I recall in the report they issued they may exclude calves from the report over and under a certain age so not to skew results but I thought you were paid for all.

Think the same.

lab man · 11-03-2021 8:44pm

tellmeabit wrote: »

Think the same.

Well,
when I phoned the icbf this is the reason I was told ? I dunno thats what they said anyway

tellmeabit · 11-03-2021 9:08pm

I think that is for their reports. They have a certain age range that the animal has to be weighed by. For mine they didn't make the report but I got paid under the scheme.
Not sure how or where exactly you can clarify.unless advisor.

Sugarbowl · 11-03-2021 9:26pm

The majority of mine were weighed under 100 days and had no impact on payment, just excluded from report.

lab man · 12-03-2021 10:56am

It's just something to keep in mind though as in the earlier the better to do them

bogman_bass · 12-03-2021 11:11am

893bet wrote: »

Are you sure?

I don’t think that was part of the terms and conditions and I just looked again.

The conditions were born between x date and y date and the calf should be unweaned. I recall in the report they issued they may exclude calves from the report over and under a certain age so not to skew results but I thought you were paid for all.

I lost out on one calf the first year. It was in the T&C back then

lab man · 12-03-2021 6:53pm

bogman_bass wrote: »

I lost out on one calf the first year. It was in the T&C back then

What was in the t&c ?

893bet · 12-03-2021 8:57pm

I don’t think payment was held for any over a certain age or under a certain age. They were just excluded from the report. You should have been paid for them if they meet the below t and cs

See below beep t and c for calves

And beep-s t and c

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ABitofsense · 16-03-2021 2:17pm

I see its live now for 2021

Dozer1 · 16-03-2021 2:41pm

form submitted easiest money of the year

tanko · 16-03-2021 4:02pm

Sure something would want to be handy. Signed up there anyway.

jfh · 16-03-2021 4:54pm

Same here, I was doing those tasks anyway so no brainer, what's the dairy beef proposal? I rear a few calves on milk replacer, is there any point in applying?!

Grueller · 16-03-2021 5:10pm

jfh wrote: »

Same here, I was doing those tasks anyway so no brainer, what's the dairy beef proposal? I rear a few calves on milk replacer, is there any point in applying?!

€20 a head for weighing when they are over 12 weeks. Paid on a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 20 calves. I 2ould say its a pilot that will roll out on a larger scale next year and with a higher payment as they try to weanlads off of sucklers and onto dairy/beef crosses.

jfh · 16-03-2021 6:36pm

Grueller wrote: »

€20 a head for weighing when they are over 12 weeks. Paid on a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 20 calves. I 2ould say its a pilot that will roll out on a larger scale next year and with a higher payment as they try to weanlads off of sucklers and onto dairy/beef crosses.

Thanks Grueller, I'm one of those, debating it for a while now

tellmeabit · 17-03-2021 1:30am

Grueller wrote: »

€20 a head for weighing when they are over 12 weeks. Paid on a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 20 calves. I 2ould say its a pilot that will roll out on a larger scale next year and with a higher payment as they try to weanlads off of sucklers and onto dairy/beef crosses.

Do they have to be over 12 weeks old? Or just its preffered?
Think.so for paid on younger ones last year.they may have been only a month old
Couldn't find it on terms there earlier . Have to check on pc tomorrow

Anto_Meath · 17-03-2021 2:02am

We are heading back to the early 1980's when they yours to pay £5 on a calf, it's was the start of the 10 & 22 month subs if I remember correctly...

Grueller · 17-03-2021 7:18am

tellmeabit wrote: »

Do they have to be over 12 weeks old? Or just its preffered?
Think.so for paid on younger ones last year.they may have been only a month old
Couldn't find it on terms there earlier . Have to check on pc tomorrow

That is for the dairy calf scheme tellmeabit. Age is irrelevant for the beep s scheme.

hopeso · 17-03-2021 3:42pm

I haven't been in this scheme before, but will probably apply this year. What are the basic requirements? Is it to weigh the cows and calves once a year?

tanko · 17-03-2021 4:41pm

hopeso wrote: »

I haven't been in this scheme before, but will probably apply this year. What are the basic requirements? Is it to weigh the cows and calves once a year?

Yeah, each cow and calf unit has to be weighed on the same day before the calf is weaned, €50/unit for the first ten and €40 per unit after that.

Then you have the option of either vaccinating your calves against Respiratory diseases or feeding them meal before and after weaning. You can't do both options. You get €30 per calf for this.

You can also take dung samples from your cows to check for liver/rumen fluke.
You get €10/cow for this. Ten samples costs about €25 to get tested. This is optional too.

lab man · 17-03-2021 8:16pm

They'll catch all the fellas registering calves before they are born now I'd say

Anto_Meath · 17-03-2021 10:02pm

If you weren't weighing the calves for the suckler version of the scheme it wouldn't be worth doing it if you have to rent a scales for the dairy calf one, you would have about €350. I wonder can you do the dairy calf one at anytime after they are 3 months once it's done by November 1.

lab man · 18-03-2021 1:17am

Anto_Meath wrote: »

If you weren't weighing the calves for the suckler version of the scheme it wouldn't be worth doing it if you have to rent a scales for the dairy calf one, you would have about €350. I wonder can you do the dairy calf one at anytime after they are 3 months once it's done by November 1.

How u mean its 50e to rent a scales

Anto_Meath · 18-03-2021 10:06am

Yes its €50 a day around here, I know a few farmers could join up and use it the 1 day if it suited them.

salmonorcod · 18-03-2021 12:14pm

lab man wrote: »

They'll catch all the fellas registering calves before they are born now I'd say

What's the advantage in registering calves before they are born?

Aravo · 18-03-2021 7:05pm

Signed up again. Worked out well enough last year.

SuperTortoise · 18-03-2021 10:08pm

When is the cut of for signing up?

tanko · 18-03-2021 10:12pm

April 26th i think.

lab man · 18-03-2021 11:41pm

salmonorcod wrote: »

What's the advantage in registering calves before they are born?

They can sell calves earlier as in the 14 day rule from what i believe can be 20 days on the card but 10 days in reality

Hard Knocks · 19-03-2021 10:20pm

Weighed a few but can’t find on ICBF where to put the weights
BEEPs is showing the 2020 scheme

tanko · 19-03-2021 11:17pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Weighed a few but can’t find on ICBF where to put the weights
BEEPs is showing the 2020 scheme

The system isn't ready for you yet.
Most of the ones i'll be weighing aren't even born yet:pac:

Hard Knocks · 20-03-2021 12:02am

tanko wrote: »

The system isn't ready for you yet.
Most of the ones i'll be weighing aren't even born yet:pac:

Some October calves are 300+kg and will soon be ready for the sales

tanko · 20-03-2021 1:00am

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Some October calves are 300+kg and will soon be ready for the sales

Ah yeah, i know. I think you just weigh them, record the weights and input them when the system lets you. Best check with ICBF i suppose.

tanko · 25-03-2021 9:41pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Weighed a few but can’t find on ICBF where to put the weights
BEEPs is showing the 2020 scheme

I think you might be able to register your scales and input the weights now.

nqtfarmer · 26-03-2021 9:48pm

We’re autumn calving here and will be hoping to wean calves and sell what’s due to the mart. Can the mart’s weighing scale not do as the weighing scale? Save a day of fighting as they kick around the scale

Hard Knocks · 26-03-2021 10:47pm

nqtfarmer wrote: »

We’re autumn calving here and will be hoping to wean calves and sell what’s due to the mart. Can the mart’s weighing scale not do as the weighing scale? Save a day of fighting as they kick around the scale

You have to weigh both cows & unweaned calves at the same time
Also don’t weigh close to sale day as if mart weight is less than recorded weight they will be disqualified

TooOldBoots · 01-04-2021 1:11pm

Signed up again for the Scheme, I choose to vaccinate instead of meal feeding this time. The meal feeding is not really an option for me as the cow pairs are all over the place and half my day is gone every day going around topping up creep feeders.
What exactly is involved in the Vaccination option, and how much per head does it work out at?

tellmeabit · 01-04-2021 2:45pm

Where do we enter the weights? Used to have icbf but didn't renew this winter

Dunedin · 01-04-2021 3:44pm

Just applied there on line. Vaccination, weighing and dung samples

Hard Knocks · 01-04-2021 4:10pm

tellmeabit wrote: »

Where do we enter the weights? Used to have icbf but didn't renew this winter

You can ring dept & they’ll send you out a form
They’ll want to know the weighting date first

Hard Knocks · 01-04-2021 4:14pm

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Signed up again for the Scheme, I choose to vaccinate instead of meal feeding this time. The meal feeding is not really an option for me as the cow pairs are all over the place and half my day is gone every day going around topping up creep feeders.
What exactly is involved in the Vaccination option, and how much per head does it work out at?

Did it last year
You give 1 live IBR jab with either 2 Bovipast jabs 4 weeks apart or 1 intranasal
Cost me €180 for 10 calves going the 2 jab route
Doing the meal feeding this year
Can you give the vaccination program when leaving the shed? Would it still be in the system 4 months later?

tellmeabit · 01-04-2021 4:59pm

Thanks. Was handy to be able to enter them myself with icbf

Anto_Meath · 01-04-2021 8:47pm

You can enter the weights on the ICBF website. You don't have to be paid up to it, once you have a username & password you can use some of the basic stuff on it.

lab man · 01-04-2021 9:57pm

Lads I sold 3 weanlings there tuesday I was ment to weigh them last Saturday I'm now going weighing on this Saturday can I put these 3 in using the weight they were at the mart?

patsy_mccabe · 15-04-2021 9:38am

Is there an application form you can print off and fill in?
My neighbour wants to join again this year and he asked my to print him a form.

I've already joined myself online.

Hard Knocks · 15-04-2021 9:53am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Is there an application form you can print off and fill in?
My neighbour wants to join again this year and he asked my to print him a form.

I've already joined myself online.

Think you have to sing up on AGfood
Ring iCBF, they’d tell you if there is a form

New beep scheme

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