The Bi-Lingual Auditory Assult By Newstalk

eirman · 11-03-2021 1:34pm #1

I strenuously object to the creeping intrusion of the gaelic language several times an hour on Newstalk bulletins.
It offends my auditory senses and is forcing me away Newstalk.
(I can never get to the mute function quick enough).

Appeal To Newstalk Management:
Please don't let a minority force their beliefs on the majority.

dvcireland · 11-03-2021 1:38pm

for me personally, it was george hook who made me move the dial

niallers1 · 11-03-2021 1:41pm

Move to another radio station if it bothers you that much

There is a lot more offensive content on Newstalk. Our native language would be way down the list.

Allinall · 11-03-2021 1:43pm

Who’s forcing their beliefs?

Is the Irish language a belief now?

Morathi · 11-03-2021 1:46pm

It's just for seachtain na gaeilge*, you'll be able to understand when they say "and that's all the news for now/more in an hour" in a week or two.

I know these times are hard, but hang in there. If the world got through Megan and Harry leaving Buckingham, you can overcome this tragedy.

* This means Irish Language Week**

** Oddly runs for over two weeks.

eirman · 11-03-2021 1:51pm

gaeilgeoirís can be as extreme in their beliefs as the Greens in forcing their views on people's everyday lives.

eirman · 11-03-2021 1:56pm

Morathi wrote: »

It's just for seachtain na gaeilge*, you'll be able to understand when they say "and that's all the news for now/more in an hour" in a week or two.

I know these times are hard, but hang in there. If the world got through Megan and Harry leaving Buckingham, you can overcome this tragedy.

* This means Irish Language Week**

** Oddly runs for over two weeks.

Thanks Morathi - So you are saying that things will be back to normal soon?
Great news - I can now shelve plans to write to the station!

leath_dub · 11-03-2021 1:59pm

"Suas chun data" just sounds wrong - and sounds like a phrase tha was translated. word-by-word using a dictionary

An Ri rua · 11-03-2021 2:00pm

eirman wrote: »

I strenuously object to the creeping intrusion of the gaelic language several times an hour on Newstalk bulletins.
It offends my auditory senses and is forcing me away Newstalk.
(I can never get to the mute function quick enough).

Appeal To Newstalk Management:
Please don't let a minority force their beliefs on the majority.

Is 'assult' assault as Gaeilge or is it yet another foreign language that you prefer?

eirman · 11-03-2021 2:13pm

An Ri rua wrote: »

Is 'assult' assault as Gaeilge or is it yet another foreign language that you prefer?

I was taught to despise the language in school.
The very sound of the language grates on my senses!

I know it sounds weird, but I am a product of the Irish educational system.

FamousDave · 11-03-2021 2:30pm

eirman wrote: »

gaeilgeoirís can be as extreme in their beliefs as the Greens in forcing their views on people's everyday lives.

I bet you use the terms ‘snowflake’ a lot in your daily conversations.

niallers1 · 11-03-2021 2:34pm

eirman wrote: »

I was taught to despise the language in school.
The very sound of the language grates on my senses!

I know it sounds weird, but I am a product of the Irish educational system.

The problem years ago you had non Irish speakers trying to teach Irish.

Nowadays, (at least in my daughters school) the focus is on speaking/ day to day conversation. It is taught in a very different way and by people already fluent. Not just by "teachers" who are one chapter ahead of the class.

eirman · 11-03-2021 3:17pm

niallers1 wrote: »

The problem years ago you had non Irish speakers trying to teach Irish.

Back in my day, many of the good/native garlick speaking 'teachers' used corporal punishment to literally beat the language into us.
They were much more enthusiastic in the use of corporal punishment than non-native speakers.

garlick above is not a typo - it's just my lingo

KaneToad · 11-03-2021 3:19pm

eirman wrote: »

I was taught to despise the language in school.
The very sound of the language grates on my senses!

I know it sounds weird, but I am a product of the Irish educational system.

I had exactly the opposite experience to you. I too am a product of the Irish educational system.

whisky_galore · 11-03-2021 5:11pm

The annual Irish language lip service. Probably gets them their quota.

Elmo · 11-03-2021 5:16pm

There is so little Irish Language on the station, your username is eirman, shouldn't it be Ireman?

gormdubhgorm · 12-03-2021 3:20am

eirman wrote: »

I strenuously object to the creeping intrusion of the gaelic language several times an hour on Newstalk bulletins.
It offends my auditory senses and is forcing me away Newstalk.
(I can never get to the mute function quick enough).

Appeal To Newstalk Management:
Please don't let a minority force their beliefs on the majority.

Legally, radio stations have to play a certain amount of content as Gaeilge. It is possible that this is being used as a loophole by Newstalk to get around this requirement in a piecemeal fashion.

For such a poster who seems like such an erudite and educated individual. It seems an awful shame that something so benign as a language offends you so much.

For a person who is truly educated should have an open mind. And be glad of cultural difference, cultural heritage, and sense of identity and place.

Perhaps those auditory senses should not be so closed?

gormdubhgorm · 12-03-2021 3:21am

Elmo wrote: »

There is so little Irish Language on the station, your username is eirman, shouldn't it be Ireman?

Irony, is often lost on those with a blinkered agenda, I find.

EmmetSpiceland · 12-03-2021 4:05pm

Curry my yoghurt, can coca coalyer.

gormdubhgorm · 12-03-2021 7:42pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Curry my yoghurt, can coca coalyer.

When yer man said that in Stortmont I actually thought it was gas. Because many in SF do not have much Irish at all really.

And they only use the Irish language for political symbolism. Which I think is the wrong thing to do. A language should not be politicised in such a way imo. It should be just used as a language, and not a tactic.

There is an Irish language programme at night on the weekend, on Newstalk called Splanc on Friday's.

https://www.newstalk.com/shows/splanc-234889

I am not sure what the OP will make of it.....

whisky_galore · 12-03-2021 10:48pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

There is an Irish language programme at night on the weekend, on Newstalk

Naw..you're grand.

13-03-2021 2:40pm

leath_dub wrote: »

"Suas chun data" just sounds wrong - and sounds like a phrase tha was translated. word-by-word using a dictionary

Yeah, it's béarlachas. This particular phrase bugs me but I suppose one benefit is that it's immediately translatable with reference to the english version they always say. Whereas if you said "anois tá an nuacht is déanaí agat" it might be just sound like a jumble.

I hope they keep it up in some form, anyway. No harm at all.

zell12 · 13-03-2021 4:29pm

leath_dub wrote: »

"Suas chun data" just sounds wrong - and sounds like a phrase tha was translated. word-by-word using dictionary

Gets me every time. It's wrong, end of. :mad:

RnaG would say
'is sin nuacht an lae inniu' or
'ba iad sin scealta na nuachta don trath seo'

Elmo · 13-03-2021 6:26pm

zell12 wrote: »

Gets me every time. It's wrong, end of. :mad:

RnaG would say
'is sin nuacht an lae inniu' or
'ba iad sin scealta na nuachta don trath seo'

Are they trying to say "up to date" ?

EmmetSpiceland · 13-03-2021 7:48pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

When yer man said that in Stortmont I actually thought it was gas. Because many in SF do not have much Irish at all really.

And they only use the Irish language for political symbolism. Which I think is the wrong thing to do. A language should not be politicised in such a way imo. It should be just used as a language, and not a tactic.

There is an Irish language programme at night on the weekend, on Newstalk called Splanc on Friday's.

https://www.newstalk.com/shows/splanc-234889

I am not sure what the OP will make of it.....

Yeah, I like the way someone like Manchán Magan deals with promoting the language.

As for Irish programming, I don’t mind it too much but with something like Splanc my own Irish wouldn’t be good enough to keep up. I’m fine with the news, and the like, but if it’s not in the, shall we say, “Queen’s Irish” I’m liable to get lost.

zell12 · 14-03-2021 12:32am

Elmo wrote: »

Are they trying to say "up to date" ?

You'd never hear a phrase like that in Gaeilge. There are other ways of saying it
'is sin nuacht an lae inniu' - that is today's news
'ba iad sin scealta na nuachta don trath seo'- those are the news items for now

Elmo · 14-03-2021 12:23pm

zell12 wrote: »

You'd never hear a phrase like that in Gaeilge. There are other ways of saying it
'is sin nuacht an lae inniu' - that is today's news
'ba iad sin scealta na nuachta don trath seo'- those are the news items for now

Even in English it is a very tabloid way of signing off, they may as well say "That's The Story" as Spin used to do.

Imreoir2 · 17-03-2021 10:40pm

eirman wrote: »

I was taught to despise the language in school.

Oh dear, what a pity, nevermind.

Edgarfrndly · 17-03-2021 10:47pm

eirman wrote: »

I strenuously object to the creeping intrusion of the gaelic language several times an hour on Newstalk bulletins.

Oh god, stop whining. You can change the channel if you're that easily upset by hear the native language of this island on the radio. It's Seachtain na Gaeilge and they are just promoting the language a little bit. They've had an Irish language show on there for years and years - Splanc.

An Ri rua · 19-03-2021 10:22pm

eirman wrote: »

I was taught to despise the language in school.
The very sound of the language grates on my senses!

I know it sounds weird, but I am a product of the Irish educational system.

Ceart go leor boss

An Ri rua · 19-03-2021 10:29pm

Elmo wrote: »

There is so little Irish Language on the station, your username is eirman, shouldn't it be Ireman?

Don't fan the flames of his ire.

The Bi-Lingual Auditory Assult By Newstalk

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